Systems advice for nephew

[theDUFF]

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My young (12) nephew had come to me for advice on which PC to by. He’d been saving for almost two years for this so I really don’t want to let him down and I know next to nothing about the current market.

He’s basically wants it if for games (Fortnight!)

I told him to see what he can get for his budget which is about £1200. And this is what he came up with:

• CPU: (Processor): AMD Ryzen 5 4500 - 6-Core 3.60GHz + Wraith CPU Cooler
• GPU: GeForce® RTX 3060 Ti 8GB LHR
• CPU Cooling: AMD Ryzen Wraith CPU Cooler
• Motherboard: Gigabyte B550M DS3H: m-ATX w/ USB 3.2, 2x M.2
• Memory (RAM): 16GB (2x8GB) DDR4/3200MHz Corsair Vengeance LPX Memory
• PSU: InWin A65 650W 80+ Certified Gaming Power Supply
• Drive: 1TB Kingston NV2 M.2 SSD

This is a prebuilt system, so it includes a case, and he already had a decent keyboard, mouse & headset (gifts from my good self).
All it needs is a monitor where he’s got his heart set on 165Hz and I suggested a Gigabyte 27" G27FC (when in stock)
This comes in at a total cost of £1100 which I think is pretty good.

So, the Q: is does this sounds reasonable? Can it be bettered? I have checked all the OC prebuilds an they are roughly equivalent.

 

[Tetras]

Intel self-build for comparison:

My basket at OcUK:

• 1 x Intel Core i5-12400F 2.50GHz (Alder Lake) Socket LGA1700 Processor - Retail (SKU: CP-6AR-IN) = £158.99
• 1 x Gigabyte B660M DS3H AX - Intel B660 DDR4 Micro ATX Motherboard (SKU: MB-5AH-GI) = £129.95
• 1 x Lexar Hades 32GB (2x16GB) DDR4 PC4-28800C18 3600MHz Dual/Quad Channel Kit (SKU: MY-018-LE) = £68.98
• 1 x Sapphire Radeon RX 6700 XT Pulse Gaming 12GB GDDR6 PCI-Express Graphics Card (SKU: GX-39K-SP) = £368.99
• 1 x WD Blue SN570 2TB SSD NVME M.2 2280 PCIe Gen3 Solid State Drive (WDS200T3B0C) (SKU: HD-58D-WD) = £89.99
• 1 x Lian Li Lancool 205M Mesh Micro-ATX PC Case Black (SKU: CA-7B2-LL) = £69.95
• 1 x Phanteks AMP 550W 80 Plus Gold Modular Power Supply (SKU: CA-09P-PT) = £79.99
• 1 x Akasa Alucia H4 Plus Premium CPU Cooler (SKU: HS-10L-AK) = £38.95
• 1 x (unchanged) Gigabyte 27" G27FC A 1920x1080 VA 165Hz 1ms FreeSync Curved Widescreen Gaming Monitor (SKU: MO-012-GI) = £198.95

Total: £1,216.73 (includes delivery: £11.99)​

 

[Anuruddha]

All
My young (12) nephew had come to me for advice on which PC to by. He’d been saving for almost two years for this so I really don’t want to let him down and I know next to nothing about the current market.

He’s basically wants it if for games (Fortnight!)

I told him to see what he can get for his budget which is about £1200. And this is what he came up with:

• CPU: (Processor): AMD Ryzen 5 4500 - 6-Core 3.60GHz + Wraith CPU Cooler
• GPU: GeForce® RTX 3060 Ti 8GB LHR
• CPU Cooling: AMD Ryzen Wraith CPU Cooler
• Motherboard: Gigabyte B550M DS3H: m-ATX w/ USB 3.2, 2x M.2
• Memory (RAM): 16GB (2x8GB) DDR4/3200MHz Corsair Vengeance LPX Memory
• PSU: InWin A65 650W 80+ Certified Gaming Power Supply
• Drive: 1TB Kingston NV2 M.2 SSD

This is a prebuilt system, so it includes a case, and he already had a decent keyboard, mouse & headset (gifts from my good self).
All it needs is a monitor where he’s got his heart set on 165Hz and I suggested a Gigabyte 27" G27FC (when in stock)
This comes in at a total cost of £1100 which I think is pretty good.

So, the Q: is does this sounds reasonable? Can it be bettered? I have checked all the OC prebuilds an they are roughly equivalent.

In my experience I have found it always cheaper to build it ourselves rather buying from custom build manufactures. Did you try Dell and HP?

 

[sx_turbo]

He be better with this from ocuk if wanting a prebuilt

OcUK Gaming Radiance Frosty MK2 - Intel Core i5 RTX 4060 - Powered By Asus | OcUK

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More ram, faster processor and larger vram on the GPU (though it's still a 3060) new releases seem to be very GPU vram heavy so it's worth getting the larger card and it's cheaper.

Only downside is the hard drive size is only 500gb, but can be upped at a later date if required by adding another card.

 

[Thaifood]

The cpu is a no go to be honest. Ryzen 4500 is just not a good one

 

[Major774]

Fortnight… grab an AMD GPU, they are faster for the money. More bang for your buck.

 

[theDUFF]

Thank Thanks all. I don't think his parents are ready for any stress if a self-build ends up broken. They would never forgive me, so we'll save that for next time.
I've has bad experiences of Dell and I don think HGP captures the mood so I'll recommend Oc build.
It does look like an AMD GPU is the way to go for Fortnight and the i5-12400f is probably the best CPU paring as the buying into next Gen AMD architecture is quite costly and probably isn't worth it in this case.
So I’ll suggest both Terat's and sx_turbo ' prebuild for reference.


My basket at OcUK:

• 1 x Intel Core i5-12400F 2.50GHz (Alder Lake) Socket LGA1700 Processor - Retail (SKU: CP-6AR-IN) = £154.99
• 1 x Gigabyte B660M DS3H AX - Intel B660 DDR4 Micro ATX Motherboard (SKU: MB-5AH-GI) = £129.95
• 1 x Lexar Hades 32GB (2x16GB) DDR4 PC4-28800C18 3600MHz Dual/Quad Channel Kit (SKU: MY-018-LE) = £68.99
• 1 x Sapphire Radeon RX 6700 XT Pulse Gaming 12GB GDDR6 PCI-Express Graphics Card (SKU: GX-39K-SP) = £368.99
• 1 x Lian Li Lancool 205M Mesh Micro-ATX PC Case Black (SKU: CA-7B2-LL) = £69.94
• 1 x Phanteks AMP 550W 80 Plus Gold Modular Power Supply (SKU: CA-09P-PT) = £80.00
• 1 x Akasa Alucia H4 Plus Premium CPU Cooler (SKU: HS-10L-AK) = £38.95
• 1 x Gigabyte 27" G27FC A 1920x1080 VA 165Hz 1ms FreeSync Curved Widescreen Gaming Monitor (SKU: MO-012-GI) = £198.95
• 1 x WD Blue SN570 2TB SSD NVME M.2 2280 PCIe Gen3 Solid State Drive (WDS200T3B0C) (SKU: HD-58D-WD) = £89.98

Total: £1,212.73 (includes delivery: £11.99)​

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[mickyflinn]

Thank Thanks all. I don't think his parents are ready for any stress if a self-build ends up broken. They would never forgive me, so we'll save that for next time.
I've has bad experiences of Dell and I don think HGP captures the mood so I'll recommend Oc build.
It does look like an AMD GPU is the way to go for Fortnight and the i5-12400f is probably the best CPU paring as the buying into next Gen AMD architecture is quite costly and probably isn't worth it in this case.
So I’ll suggest both Terat's and sx_turbo ' prebuild for reference.


My basket at OcUK:

• 1 x Intel Core i5-12400F 2.50GHz (Alder Lake) Socket LGA1700 Processor - Retail (SKU: CP-6AR-IN) = £154.99
• 1 x Gigabyte B660M DS3H AX - Intel B660 DDR4 Micro ATX Motherboard (SKU: MB-5AH-GI) = £129.95
• 1 x Lexar Hades 32GB (2x16GB) DDR4 PC4-28800C18 3600MHz Dual/Quad Channel Kit (SKU: MY-018-LE) = £68.99
• 1 x Sapphire Radeon RX 6700 XT Pulse Gaming 12GB GDDR6 PCI-Express Graphics Card (SKU: GX-39K-SP) = £368.99
• 1 x Lian Li Lancool 205M Mesh Micro-ATX PC Case Black (SKU: CA-7B2-LL) = £69.94
• 1 x Phanteks AMP 550W 80 Plus Gold Modular Power Supply (SKU: CA-09P-PT) = £80.00
• 1 x Akasa Alucia H4 Plus Premium CPU Cooler (SKU: HS-10L-AK) = £38.95
• 1 x Gigabyte 27" G27FC A 1920x1080 VA 165Hz 1ms FreeSync Curved Widescreen Gaming Monitor (SKU: MO-012-GI) = £198.95
• 1 x WD Blue SN570 2TB SSD NVME M.2 2280 PCIe Gen3 Solid State Drive (WDS200T3B0C) (SKU: HD-58D-WD) = £89.98

Total: £1,212.73 (includes delivery: £11.99)​

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I would spend an extra £20 and get the 12400 which comes with integrated graphics which can be a life saver if you don't have a spare GPU.

Intel Core i5-12400 2.50GHz (Alder Lake) Socket LGA1700 Processor - Retail

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[theDUFF]

I would spend an extra £20 and get the 12400 which comes with integrated graphics which can be a life saver if you don't have a spare GPU.

Intel Core i5-12400 2.50GHz (Alder Lake) Socket LGA1700 Processor - Retail

Order Intel Core i5-12400 2.50GHz (Alder Lake) Socket LGA1700 Processor - Retail now online and benefit from fast delivery.

www.overclockers.co.uk

Good point. I have been caught out by that and I found dusting off a three year old GPU and praying it still works isn't much fun.

 

[mickyflinn]

Good point. I have been caught out by that and I found dusting off a three year old GPU and praying it still works isn't much fun.

£10 saved with this cooler.

Kolink Umbra EX180 Black Edition CPU Cooler - 120mm

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Rear exhaust fan.

Arctic P12 PWM PST Black Fan - 120mm

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[theDUFF]

Ok... rear exhaust fan added!

 

[sx_turbo]

Alternatively an amd build DIY list

My basket at OcUK:

• 1 x Gigabyte B550 Gaming X V2 (AMD AM4) B550 ATX Motherboard (SKU: MB-594-GI) = £115.99
• 1 x BitFenix Nova Mesh TG SE A-RGB Midi-Tower, Tempered Glass - Black / Red (SKU: CA-23P-BX) = £42.95
• 1 x Jonsbo HX4170D Low Profile CPU Cooler Black – Intel and AMD (SKU: HS-00W-JB) = £33.95
• 1 x Asrock RX Radeon 6700 XT Phantom Gaming D OC 12GB GDDR6 PCI-Express Graphics Card (SKU: GX-00M-AK) = £379.99
• 1 x Kolink Enclave 700W 80 Plus Gold Modular Power Supply (SKU: CA-04B-KK) = £74.99
• 1 x Kolink AT/ATX "Kettle Plug" 1.2 5A Fuse Meter Mains Cable (SKU: CB-002-KK) = £0.00
• 1 x Lexar Hades 32GB (2x16GB) DDR4 PC4-28800C18 3600MHz Dual/Quad Channel Kit (SKU: MY-018-LE) = £68.99
• 1 x AMD Ryzen 5 5600X Six Core 4.6GHz (Socket AM4) Processor - Retail (SKU: CP-3CC-AM) = £169.99
• 1 x Gigabyte 27" G27FC A 1920x1080 VA 165Hz 1ms FreeSync Curved Widescreen Gaming Monitor (SKU: MO-012-GI) = £198.95
• 1 x Corsair Force MP600 CORE XT 2TB NVMe PCIe 4.0 M.2 Solid State Drive (CSSD-F2000GBMP600CXT) (SKU: HD-06V-CS) = £99.94

Total: £1,197.73 (includes delivery: £11.99)​

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[MissChief]

27" 1080p won't look particularly great IMO

 

[sx_turbo]

27" 1080p won't look particularly great IMO

Only alternative to the requested monitor would be this for the price

https://www.overclockers.co.uk/phil...sync-widescreen-gaming-monitor-mo-02r-ph.html

I've got this monitor and I'm pretty happy with it, it's no oled for sure but need to have a spot of compromise somewhere

 

[theDUFF]

Point taken about the monitor. I am leaning towards the AMD CPU combo simply for upgradability

 

[theDUFF]

Simple question: If I order one of these baskets OC will build it to a working PC? I don't want to to turn up unassembled in about 10 boxes. That would be bad. I assume it comes built, but it's not mentioned at all on the checkout page or in the help (?!!!!)

 

[MissChief]

Simple question: If I order one of these baskets OC will build it to a working PC? I don't want to to turn up unassembled in about 10 boxes. That would be bad. I assume it comes built, but it's not mentioned at all on the checkout page or in the help (?!!!!)

Not unless you include the 'build this' option, although I'm unsure where that is! It's actually really easy, like adult lego. Watch a couple of DIY build it videos like this:

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[theDUFF]

Oddly there is no "build this" option at all. I have clicked all the way through to payment and it is nowhere to be seen. Crazy. Maybe the website is broken.

 

[sx_turbo]

Oddly there is no "build this" option at all. I have clicked all the way through to payment and it is nowhere to be seen. Crazy. Maybe the website is broken.

Give them a call, I found them really helpful when I had issues with the finance side (though mine was completely me being an idiot).

 

[theDUFF]

Will do! I think it all has to be done though one of the configured systems for the build costs to be added. Grrrr