Ukraine Invasion - Please do not post videos showing attacks/similar

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StriderX said:
What confuses me is why the long time between fires?

Do they actually need an entire day to reload?
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If they are targeting specific areas (like the patriot) then they wouldn't want to launch another volley before having a chance to assess whether the target is actually still there or not.

Or as others have commented on, maybe their stocks are so depleted they are only getting drip-fed replacements.
 
CaptainRAVE said:
Good luck exhausting the US arms sector.
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They don't need to exhaust the US arms sector. Unfortunately they only have to exhaust Ukraine's stockpile for a few days to allow them to punch through with a serious attack. Hopefully NATO is keeping them resupplied quickly enough. I guess it's all about logistics.
 
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Hades said:
They don't need to exhaust the US arms sector. Unfortunately they only have to exhaust Ukraine's stockpile for a few days to allow them to punch through with a serious attack. Hopefully NATO is keeping them resupplied quickly enough. I guess it's all about logistics.
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Something the US excels at. It’s hard to imagine them not having sent enough missiles to defend the patriot system itself.
 
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Hades said:
They don't need to exhaust the US arms sector. Unfortunately they only have to exhaust Ukraine's stockpile for a few days to allow them to punch through with a serious attack. Hopefully NATO is keeping them resupplied quickly enough. I guess it's all about logistics.
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Even working alone, the US Airforce has the best airlift capability in the world, I doubt resupplied is an issue.
 
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StriderX said:
What confuses me is why the long time between fires?

Do they actually need an entire day to reload?
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There is usually several hours between take-offs, moving into firing positions and then returning. I'd assume even a quick turn around of crews, fuel and checks, munitions, etc. is probably not expedited and a few hours. Between that there is probably damage assessment and a planning stage and so on. Some of those steps might be skipped or expedited in a full on war situation but as Russia itself isn't under imminent major threat they are probably at a standard pace.
 
It just seems so pointless to me if they're just going to wait for Ukraine to reload everything, the commanders must still be making optimistic reports about their targets for this to be even remotely rational.
 
Grim5 said:
In WW2 there were a few countries who had the ability to move lots of troops and equipment across the world. After WW2 only one country retained and maintained that capability and that's the US
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While not the scale of the US we've still got a substantial logistic capability though sadly ever eroded - it is actually what the Russian armed forces feared about us rather than our nuclear weapons or relative power of our armed forces as we could/can significantly outmanoeuvre them in a conventional fight.

Several NATO nations and Australia maintain relatively capable logistic capabilities with the ability to move lots of troops and equipment across the world though not as comprehensive as the US or UK for deploying that rapidly into combat.

(For other nations the situation is much more varied and some don't actually have the experience, training and infrastructure to support it at scale despite having the capabilities on paper)
 
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I still just can’t believe how much Putin (and the leadership of Russia) has shown up the Russian military. Does he realise how embarrassing it looks? I refuse to believe he still sees them as a formidable global fighting force.
 
S.A.S said:
I still just can’t believe how much Putin (and the leadership of Russia) has shown up the Russian military. Does he realise how embarrassing it looks? I refuse to believe he still sees them as a formidable global fighting force.
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The way I see it. He's dug himself in so deep of a hole now, he sees no other choice than to push on and keep on digging to hope for a "somewhat" favourable outcome with the west growing weary of providing aid then a slow grind down until Ukraine capitulates. Or he is being lied to comprehensively at all levels and is blind to the reality of the situation he has put his forces in. Whilst the latter is possible, it is most likely a combination of both.
 
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