Cars be * expensive vs 10 years ago
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Oh and via old cached Google images, it also appears to have been 'for sale' in Newcastle and Liverpool recently too, with the same photos.
My first assumption on any relatively cheap car advert on Facebook is that it's fake, it's absolutely riddled with them.
My first assumption on any relatively cheap car advert on Facebook is that it's fake, it's absolutely riddled with them.
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I'll stick to buying from a dealer, I think. Too many pitfalls buying privately, given I'm not a car person.
PS, where do you get that info from?
The problem being the type of dealers at this end of the market. I'd personally value meeting the previous owner.
Totalcarcheck gives previous advert details (with price and mileage if it could scrape that info) and last ownership change on its free check, the other adverts were just from Googling the registration and there were multiple results in image search
Not sure what I'd go with.
In same position you are if I needed a car.
Absolutely need a car.
But only for social.
I guess I'd keep an eye out for which old cars you see driving on the roads. Probably most reliable.
Not sure what I'd go for either now should the Peugeot I have dies! It's shocking how much cars are now vs pre covid.
In same position you are if I needed a car.
Absolutely need a car.
But only for social.
I guess I'd keep an eye out for which old cars you see driving on the roads. Probably most reliable.
Not sure what I'd go for either now should the Peugeot I have dies! It's shocking how much cars are now vs pre covid.
Looks like a 2010 Mk2.5 Yaris is ~£4000 @ 70k miles. A tiny upgrade perhaps on my Mk1. I could buy another Mk1 but the costs of those is up around £3k and at least 7 years older. Might as well jump to something a little newer.
Man, I've spent all day browsing AutoTrader. All day.
Man, I've spent all day browsing AutoTrader. All day.
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I know money has realistic limits but I wonder where the trade off is with cars a little more expensive, higher miles but newer and a lot more spec for the money. I wonder though if they are being sold because big ticket items are imminent like turbo and you'd end up in it for another grand :s for example as someone mentioned earlier in the thread the Nissan Pulsar - quite a few ~2015 cars but on ~100K miles at £4-5K with the higher trim levels.
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Since covid the prices of second cars skyrocketed and haven't come down
After checking online sales, my car is currently selling for the same it sold for in 2019
In 2018 I was looking at buying a 2017 Audi RS3 and last week I checked out 2017 RS3's and found they are more or less still the same price as 2018, I nearly spit my coffee out
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Pre-covid I was looking at getting a Jag xf V6 supercharged sport, average was about £18k for a 2016/7 plate, decided to hold off cos COVID hit, started looking again back end of last year, their all £20-25k depending spec and mileage...
Ended up passing...
If you have 18k+ there is plenty of cars available, even crap cars like insignia seem to be wanting similar cash for a few year old card, but anything less than 15k seems to be very little decent stuff available. It's all fake news about car shortages, there isn't all the dealers round where I live are stacked with new and used cars, just greedy on price and plenty of people willing to pay the asking price
Ended up passing...
If you have 18k+ there is plenty of cars available, even crap cars like insignia seem to be wanting similar cash for a few year old card, but anything less than 15k seems to be very little decent stuff available. It's all fake news about car shortages, there isn't all the dealers round where I live are stacked with new and used cars, just greedy on price and plenty of people willing to pay the asking price
Well it's not fake news, there very clearly was a huge shortage of new cars in the 2020 onwards period - which now translates to a shortage of 1 to 3 year old used cars, driving up their prices and in turn the prices of everything else.
New car registrations dropped off a cliff between 2019 and 2020 - 2.3 million new cars down to 1.6 million - and haven't really recovered yet. Even the recession following 2008 they barely dipped below 2 million.
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Supply of new cars is still very poor due to chip shortages (still!) and manufacturing capacity still below what it was pre-covid. Most new vehicles have waiting lists of anything from 3-6 months to 3 years in some situations!
Some of the larger manufacturers are listed here https://www.nationwidevehiclecontracts.co.uk/guides/ask-nvc/car-manufacturer-lead-times-uk
Some of the larger manufacturers are listed here https://www.nationwidevehiclecontracts.co.uk/guides/ask-nvc/car-manufacturer-lead-times-uk
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Manufacturers have stated that in future they will purposely produce less cars than previous as they believe people are now willing to wait 6 months for a new car, this keeps the price of new and used cars high and reduces haggling, also means they don't need to reduce prices to get rid of stock, they have realised they can increase profits substantially.
Not too dissimilar to Nvidia and their consumer graphics cards.
www.motorbiscuit.com
Dealers both new and used have full forecourts still, and have done throughout the pandemic, they have always over produced cars meaning having to sell a lot at discount, so this rubbish about there being a shortage I don't believe, I've never seen so many new cars on the road these past few years, prices of used cars will only increase as we get closer to 2030 and people won't be wanting to swap to electric vehicles
Not too dissimilar to Nvidia and their consumer graphics cards.
After Pandemic Carmakers Will Keep Production Low To Keep Profits High
What would you do if you could make more profits selling less of your products? That is what carmakers are seeing from lower production due to the pandemic and microchip shortage.
www.motorbiscuit.com
Dealers both new and used have full forecourts still, and have done throughout the pandemic, they have always over produced cars meaning having to sell a lot at discount, so this rubbish about there being a shortage I don't believe, I've never seen so many new cars on the road these past few years, prices of used cars will only increase as we get closer to 2030 and people won't be wanting to swap to electric vehicles
yes yaris 2013/100K £4K https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202307270117953
( the one in the facebook had gimped/go-faster rear lights no ? - relations 64 I drive regularly doesn't have that anyway )
I too have noticed this.
Approximately 10 years ago I bought an 8 year old E46 M3 for £8250 with 75k miles or so. Today, for me to buy an 8 year old F80 M3 with 75k miles or so, I'd need to find the best part of £27k.
I'm aware of the concept of inflation, but that is mental.
Approximately 10 years ago I bought an 8 year old E46 M3 for £8250 with 75k miles or so. Today, for me to buy an 8 year old F80 M3 with 75k miles or so, I'd need to find the best part of £27k.
I'm aware of the concept of inflation, but that is mental.
The older it is the more chance of having rust, etc.
Newer cars in my price range have better engines, better fuel economy, lower emissions. And often better spec.
It's not a fixation, it's a benchmark.
Unfortunately we had to buy last summer and I settled on a mk4 Clio because I wanted one of the modern 1 litre turbo engines that still go ok but give good economy (that was not an ecoboom Fiesta) , cheap to insure and tax for 17 year old etc. We bought a 15 plate one. I looked for literally 2 months and travelled quite far in some instances to view disappointment after disappointment. So many dogs out there. Sellers that neglect to tell you stuff. Hide stuff. I went to a Renault specialist dealer who had about 4 similar Clios on the forecourt. Each had scratches, cobwebs and mould on them and were filthy... on a dealer forecourt. Incredible. I upped my budget and stopped looking at ones for 5.5 - 6k and found one private not too far away that was a Gt Line one, one lady owner and only 19000 miles. Cost me 8k! 
But we'll probably keep it for many years to be fair.
But we'll probably keep it for many years to be fair.
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