Wall socket slow usb ports

[Deleted User 298457]

FWIW I spent AGES finding the right sockets (above model) while planning my rewire and I have yet to actually buy them for this reason ^

They won't match my carefully chosen sockets and switches, and ultimately sockets and charging bricks are cheap and plentiful. Having a box built into the wall that might melt or fail, and then needs rewiring, not so appealing. So I probably won't go with them in the end.

This, and the fact charging standards change more often than I'd like to change my sockets!

 

[thisisthecount]

It has PD and QC - I know BG do a couple of series - 80x and 90x maybe? That support QC4 and PD. Let me dig them out...

Right, 30W PD and white or steel:

Error 410 | Screwfix

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Error 410 | Screwfix

Thousands of products at low trade prices | FREE next day delivery available | 30 day money back guarantee on all orders.

www.screwfix.com

Like the idea of the screwfix, bit pricey though? Also looking for a range which is matt black or similar really? Would you happen to know of a brand you’d reccomend?

 

[LuckyBenski]

Like the idea of the screwfix, bit pricey though? Also looking for a range which is matt black or similar really? Would you happen to know of a brand you’d reccomend?

As it's going in the wall AND handling your phone, those are 2 areas I don't usually cheap out. BG are a household brand in electrics even if they're not the best regarded (lots of higher end brands like Hager etc).

Expensive because it's actually a reasonably complex bit of kit and as above wouldn't want cheaply made things Quality phone chargers also aren't very cheap sadly.

I did see a black one on Screwfix though!

 

[Reuben klang]

They do a black screwless one

British General Evolve 13A 2-Gang SP Switched Socket + 3A 30W 2-Outlet Type A & C USB Charger Black Chrome with Black Inserts - Screwfix

Order online at Screwfix.com. Power socket with integrated fast charge USB-A and USB-C ports, allowing devices to be charged without use of adaptors. Smart charging adjusts voltage to provide required power without overcharging. Delivers 50% charge to mobile phones in 30 minutes and charges up...

www.screwfix.com

May I ask why you don’t just use a rapid charger?

 

[thisisthecount]

They do a black screwless one

British General Evolve 13A 2-Gang SP Switched Socket + 3A 30W 2-Outlet Type A & C USB Charger Black Chrome with Black Inserts - Screwfix

Order online at Screwfix.com. Power socket with integrated fast charge USB-A and USB-C ports, allowing devices to be charged without use of adaptors. Smart charging adjusts voltage to provide required power without overcharging. Delivers 50% charge to mobile phones in 30 minutes and charges up...

www.screwfix.com

May I ask why you don’t just use a rapid charger

already using both sockets for other appliances.

 

[MassiveJim]

My experience with a couple of them in the house.
I have a quad socket one in the lounge to charge all the ipads phone etc overnight.
2 of the sockets will intermittently stop charging, although wiggling the cable or disconnecting/reconnecting usually resolves this.
another dual socket one one of the ports out of the box seemed to charge at half the speed of the others.


That being said they are very handy to have, I have a couple of things that are powered from 5v USB cables I can just plug into one of these instead (think google NEST etc)
They also can't be unplugged and moved by the missus/kids.
We have had for a while a Samsung fast charger plugged into a certain socket in the kitchen, the missus took it to work about a month ago and I haven't seen it since

 

[thisisthecount]

It has PD and QC - I know BG do a couple of series - 80x and 90x maybe? That support QC4 and PD. Let me dig them out...

Right, 30W PD and white or steel:

Error 410 | Screwfix

Thousands of products at low trade prices | FREE next day delivery available | 30 day money back guarantee on all orders.

www.screwfix.com

Error 410 | Screwfix

Thousands of products at low trade prices | FREE next day delivery available | 30 day money back guarantee on all orders.

www.screwfix.com

thanks, although sooo expensive for that silver one and that's typical as its what I was thinking of.
Also states "Max. 3A Shared Between Ports (Max. USB A: 3A, Max. USB C: 3A)" does that mean 50% goes into one port and 50% into the other?

 

[Cornubia]

I could never see the advantage of USB socket. Always seemed like a good idea but in practice outdated fairly quickly and required a fairly deep back box. All to save an adaptor.

 

[Deleted User 298457]

thanks, although sooo expensive for that silver one and that's typical as its what I was thinking of.
Also states "Max. 3A Shared Between Ports (Max. USB A: 3A, Max. USB C: 3A)" does that mean 50% goes into one port and 50% into the other?

Yeah or one fights the other and it gets binned off.

 

[LuckyBenski]

thanks, although sooo expensive for that silver one and that's typical as its what I was thinking of.
Also states "Max. 3A Shared Between Ports (Max. USB A: 3A, Max. USB C: 3A)" does that mean 50% goes into one port and 50% into the other?

It depends what is drawing current and how. 3A is a bit vague as it could be at 5V or at 12V or at ???

So TBH YMMV with ANY device that has multiple outputs IMO.

Edit: Sorry that's abbreviation vomit

 

[pras1011]

13 Amp 2 Gang Switched Socket c/w USB A+C (45 Watt) | Knightsbridge (CU9003)

PD 45 watt.

 

[SoliD]

if buying BG Wall sockets i've found TLC direct soooo much cheaper than screwfix.

 

[vail3r]

I've got the BG 30W Type A + C sockets in every room in the house. Handy as I can plug my laptop in too, I hate having USB plugs sticking out everywhere.

I also bought all mine from TLC as much cheaper

 

[bainbridge]

I put a couple of sockets in with integrated usb ports, but as mentioned they're not fast for charging.

I've resorted to a 4 socket trailing lead plugged into one of the sockets and the fast chargers are plugged into this.

It's out of the way between the side of the settee and the wall and even with several fast chargers connected it's hardly going to overload it.

 

[Feek]

My unpopular opinion in a previous thread is how these usb sockets are total E waste. Utter junk that doesn't need to exist.

Totally agree. The majority of them appear to be very cheaply made and of very questionable quality.

 

[LuckyBenski]

Totally agree. The majority of them appear to be very cheaply made and of very questionable quality.

One thing I won't cheap out on is anything that turns mains voltage into phone charging voltages. I've had really questionable USB wall blocks bundled with cheap Chinese stuff and it's simply not getting plugged in, ever. Doubly as scary if it's inside the wall!

 

[NickK]

It depends what is drawing current and how. 3A is a bit vague as it could be at 5V or at 12V or at ???

So TBH YMMV with ANY device that has multiple outputs IMO.

Edit: Sorry that's abbreviation vomit

True, the BG one does state it specifically for the port.

I have 6 USB 'A' sockets - three double and two single. The one in the kitchen gets used heavily by the mrs for charging her stuff overnight. Of the two in my mancave, only one gets used. Of the two in the living room, one is now covered by the sofa and the other sometimes gets used if families come around and the kids tablets etc need a recharge. It's funny when you see families simply revolving their lives around the recharge point and no longer the TV...

I may switch out the one in the kitchen and the one in the mancave to higher current ones.

In the end I find fast charge is a bit if a misnomer as I find that leaving a charge running when it can fully charge with trickle charging for a period really prolongs the space between charges. I first noticed that with my keyboard charging and my watch charging - they charge in a short period but discharge quick (the watch may discharge in 3-5 days) but give them a 24 trickle time then the watch lasts 2-3 weeks. Same with the keyboard batteries.

 

[n30_mkii]

Yep waste of money, I've just had my house rewired and haven't had a single usb intergrated socket. The tech just lags behind, and in two years you'll need a better spec charger or wanr wireless etc. I'll continue to use dedicated chargers

 

[Deleted User 298457]

True, the BG one does state it specifically for the port.

I have 6 USB 'A' sockets - three double and two single. The one in the kitchen gets used heavily by the mrs for charging her stuff overnight. Of the two in my mancave, only one gets used. Of the two in the living room, one is now covered by the sofa and the other sometimes gets used if families come around and the kids tablets etc need a recharge. It's funny when you see families simply revolving their lives around the recharge point and no longer the TV...

I may switch out the one in the kitchen and the one in the mancave to higher current ones.

In the end I find fast charge is a bit if a misnomer as I find that leaving a charge running when it can fully charge with trickle charging for a period really prolongs the space between charges. I first noticed that with my keyboard charging and my watch charging - they charge in a short period but discharge quick (the watch may discharge in 3-5 days) but give them a 24 trickle time then the watch lasts 2-3 weeks. Same with the keyboard batteries.

This is the problem exactly though. I've never looked at my sockets and thought 'eh better upgrade them' and generated this new e-waste.

It isn't just speed like you said, its current - combined draw - powerIQ/power negotiating. I also charge my laptop through USB C.

 

[taB]

We have a couple but only because I couldn't be bothered arguing with the builder after I'd said I didn't want them and he started to extol their virtues. Work fine for the kids' pads. I don't want them to charge too fast generally.