First build attempt on a £1,000 budget

BorisTheFlorist

BorisTheFlorist

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Hi all,

Looking into doing my first full PC build, I've been using a "HP Gaming Pavilion - 17-cd0033na" gaming laptop for the last 3 years and now I'm more interested in playing some of the latest releases with maxed out graphics to see them in all their glory.
I've created a list on Amazon to get some kind idea of overall price, my budget is £1,000
Not upgrading my 2 monitors for the time being in order to allocate more budget to the PC components, I'll have put up with my basic Samsung LF22T450FQCXXK FullHD displays for now, not the worst going as they're IPS panels, just probably going to hitting the max refresh rate of 75Hz, I'll probably look to upgrade these later in the year.

Currently the price of all the components listed below is £849.56 - this amount I've come to are prices of the products via other sellers, the MSI GeForce RTX 3060 VENTUS price at least is matching the competitors! :cool:

AMD Ryzen 7 5700X Desktop Processor - https://www.overclockers.co.uk/amd-...hz-socket-am4-processor-retail-cp-3d1-am.html
£161
Cooler Master Hyper H412R CPU Air Cooler - 92mm - https://www.overclockers.co.uk/cooler-master-hyper-h412r-cpu-cooler-92mm-hs-07t-cm.html
£23.99
Arctic MX-4 Thermal Compound - https://www.overclockers.co.uk/arctic-mx-4-thermal-compound-4g-th-01b-ar.html
£3.95
MSI GeForce RTX 3060 VENTUS 2X 12G OC Gaming Graphics Card - https://www.overclockers.co.uk/msi-...ddr6-pci-express-graphics-card-gx-374-ms.html
£269.96
ASUS PRIME B550-PLUS AMD B550 ATX Motherboard - https://www.overclockers.co.uk/asus-prime-b550-plus-amd-am4-b550-atx-motherboard-mb-6f6-as.html
£115.95
Crucial Pro RAM 32GB Kit (2x16GB) DDR4 3200MT/s - product is not listed in the OverClockers store
£47.99
Samsung 990 Pro 1TB M.2 2280 PCI-e 4.0 x4 NVMe 1.3c Solid State Drive - https://www.overclockers.co.uk/sams...x4-nvme-1.3c-solid-state-drive-hd-24q-sa.html
£75.99
EVGA 600 W1, 80+ WHITE 600W - product is not listed in the OverClockers store
£45.83
WiFi Card 5400Mbps 6E Wireless WiFi Bluetooth 5.2 PCIe Network Card, 6GHz/5GHz/2.4GHz - product is not listed in the OverClockers store
£23.90
GameMax Silent Mid-Tower ATX case - product is not listed in the OverClockers store
£81

I'm all ears for feedback whether it's good or bad! hopefully not too much bad... :D

Many Thanks!
 
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Looks fine, better prices than my spec.

My basket at OcUK:

Total: £981.85 (includes delivery: £11.98)​

BorisTheFlorist said:
EVGA 600 W1, 80+ WHITE 600W - product is not listed in the OverClockers store
£45.83
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Don't know much about this, but 3 year warranty and sleeve bearing fan doesn't inspire confidence.

BorisTheFlorist said:
Samsung 990 Pro 1TB M.2 2280 PCI-e 4.0 x4 NVMe 1.3c Solid State Drive - https://www.overclockers.co.uk/sams...x4-nvme-1.3c-solid-state-drive-hd-24q-sa.html
£75.99
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I'd get 2TB, games eat storage so fast.

Alternatively, add something like this in the 2nd slot:

www.overclockers.co.uk

WD Blue SN570 1TB SSD NVME M.2 2280 PCIe Gen3 Solid State Drive (WDS100T3B0C)

Order WD Blue SN570 1TB SSD NVME M.2 2280 PCIe Gen3 Solid State Drive (WDS100T3B0C) now online and benefit from fast delivery.
www.overclockers.co.uk www.overclockers.co.uk

BorisTheFlorist said:
Not upgrading my 2 monitors for the time being in order to allocate more budget to the PC components, I'll have put up with my basic Samsung LF22T450FQCXXK FullHD displays for now, not the worst going as they're IPS panels, just probably going to hitting the max refresh rate of 75Hz, I'll probably look to upgrade these later in the year.
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BorisTheFlorist said:
now I'm more interested in playing some of the latest releases with maxed out graphics to see them in all their glory.
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Just a warning, if you plan on upgrading to e.g. 1440p monitors in the near future, the 3060 isn't going to let you play the latest games with max settings. It is primarily intended as a 1080p card (though, you can use upscaling) and I'd be looking at more like a 6800 if you have big plans in the next year or two.

p.s. If you're interested in a 6800, you might want to watch this recent video:
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Radeon RX 6800 XT vs. GeForce RTX 4060 Ti 16G, 40+ Game Benchmark @ 1080p, 1440p & 4K

Thermal Grizzly: https://www.thermal-grizzly.com/produkte/522-cpu-contact-frame-for-12th-gen-intel-by-der8auerSupport us on Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/...
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Tetras said:
Looks fine, better prices than my spec.

My basket at OcUK:

Total: £981.85 (includes delivery: £11.98)​



Don't know much about this, but 3 year warranty and sleeve bearing fan doesn't inspire confidence.



I'd get 2TB, games eat storage so fast.

Alternatively, add something like this in the 2nd slot:

www.overclockers.co.uk

WD Blue SN570 1TB SSD NVME M.2 2280 PCIe Gen3 Solid State Drive (WDS100T3B0C)

Order WD Blue SN570 1TB SSD NVME M.2 2280 PCIe Gen3 Solid State Drive (WDS100T3B0C) now online and benefit from fast delivery.
www.overclockers.co.uk www.overclockers.co.uk





Just a warning, if you plan on upgrading to e.g. 1440p monitors in the near future, the 3060 isn't going to let you play the latest games with max settings. It is primarily intended as a 1080p card (though, you can use upscaling) and I'd be looking at more like a 6800 if you have big plans in the next year or two.

p.s. If you're interested in a 6800, you might want to watch this recent video:
www.youtube.com

Radeon RX 6800 XT vs. GeForce RTX 4060 Ti 16G, 40+ Game Benchmark @ 1080p, 1440p & 4K

Thermal Grizzly: https://www.thermal-grizzly.com/produkte/522-cpu-contact-frame-for-12th-gen-intel-by-der8auerSupport us on Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/...
www.youtube.com www.youtube.com
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Good point about the storage space! I've already added to my list - especially as it's only £115.50 for the "Samsung 980 PRO M.2 NVMe SSD 2 TB, PCIe 4.0" (equivalent of just £57.75 per TB), whereas my initial choice was the "Samsung 990 PR0 1TB NVME" SSD at £75.99 per TB.

Maybe I'll look around and research further for a different power supply if the one I've got picked currently is a bit of an unknown

Interesting the 3060 wouldn't be able to handle any recent released games, I thought with 12GB of VRAM it should be able to somewhat cope, very useful to know
I would like to get a better graphics card than this but you know... that's when the price starts to climb a bit! :D haven't checked out any of the AMD line ups of GPUs, will have to take a look at the Radeon RX 6800XT to see what all the fuss is about

I also really like your case from your list, especially at that price point! maybe I'll have a shop around here on OverClockers to see what PC Cases they've got going at the moment

Thanks a lot for your feedback and suggestions
 
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BorisTheFlorist said:
Maybe I'll look around and research further for a different power supply if the one I've got picked currently is a bit of an unknown.
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I found a review of the 500 watt version and it looks like not a great PSU at all:

www.youtube.com

EVGA 500W Review - Another One (PSU) Bites the Dust

The EVGA 500W will have a tough time delivering full load at areas with 115V input because its bridge rectifier is not bolted on a heatsink. According to the...
www.youtube.com www.youtube.com

I wouldn't be comfortable buying this PSU for a 1K gaming system. The Seasonic in my spec is double the price, but superior in every way (more modern platform, higher efficiency and performance, better build quality with decent caps and fan, 10 year warranty).
 
Quartz said:
Is that white as in the colour or as in the standard? If the latter then avoid it. Look for a Bronze standard or better. They run cooler and quieter.
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Sounds like it's the latter then as the power supply looks very black to me! :cry:
Didn't even know there was a "White" standard, I thought the lowest was bronze... well every day's a school day ey!

I've put the specs below, hopefully I'm not breaking any of the rules posting the below... still fairly new here as you can probably tell! I've removed any links that were present

It's sounding more and more likely that I'm much better off spending an extra £20-£30 getting a much better quality PSU I think

EVGA 600 W1, 80+ WHITE 600W, 3 Year Warranty, Power Supply 100-W1-0600-K2 (EU)​

Part Number: 100-W1-0600-K2
100-W1-0600-K2_MD_1.jpg


Ready for 4th Generation Intel Core Processors (C6/C7 Idle Mode)

When building on a budget, the EVGA 600W 80 PLUS is a great choice at a low cost. Supporting 49A on a single +12V rail provides more options without having to reduce your component requirements. Save space with the 600W's compact design, well-placed power switch and fully sleeved cables. The 600W offers the connections and protections needed for basic system builds. With a standard 3 year warranty and ultra quiet fan design the 600W will be a great asset for your next build on a budget.

Learn more

FEATURES​

  • 3 Year Warranty
  • Heavy-duty protections, including OVP (Over Voltage Protection), UVP (Under Voltage Protection), OCP (Over Current Protection), OPP (Over Power Protection), SCP (Short Circuit Protection), and OTP (Over Temperature Protection)
  • Quiet and Intelligent Auto Fan for near-silent operation

CABLE LENGTH​

ATX Cable1x 550mm
EPS Cable1x 600mm
PCIe Cable1x 550mm, 670mm
SATA Cable2x 450mm, 570mm, 690mm
Four-Pin Peripheral Cable1x 450mm, 570mm, 690mm (f)
Floppy Adapter1x 810mm
AC Power1x 1200mm
Modular Cable TypeNo

CONNECTOR QUANTITY​

24 Pin ATX1x
EPS (CPU)1x 8pin (4+4)
PCIe2x 8pin (6+2)
SATA6x
Four-Pin Peripheral3x
Floppy1x

INPUT​

Input Voltage100 - 240 VAC
AC Input10-5A
Input Frequency Range50 - 60 Hz
Efficiency80% Typical

OUTPUT​

Rail+3.3V+5V+12V-12V+5Vsb
Max output24A20A49A0.3A3A
49A
130W588W3.6W15W
Total600W @ +40C

ADDITIONAL DETAILS​

Operating Temperature0° to 40° C
Noise Level24-26dBA Typical
Japanese CapacitorsNo
ECO ModeNo
MTBF100,000 Hours
Gross Weight4 lbs
Size85mm (H) x 150mm (W) x 140mm (L)
ApprovalsTUV, cUL, UL, CE, FCC, RCM, WEEE, RoHS
Fan Size / Bearing120mm Sleeve Bearing
UPC843368034207
EAN4250812407689
EVGA Warranty

PRODUCT WARRANTY​

This product is covered under EVGA's 3 year limited warranty which covers parts and labor.
Further warranty extension is available upon registration within 90 days of purchase.
For more details please visit
 
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Quartz said:
Is that white as in the colour or as in the standard? If the latter then avoid it. Look for a Bronze standard or better. They run cooler and quieter.
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This.

Confirming it's the white as in standard not colour. Even though if used in the U.K. it is going to be more efficient making it more like a bronze PSU, with the components listed I would invest in a much better PSU; it's one of the most important components in the system.

Never skimp on the PSU.

Here is one of the reviews I've read which should serve as a warning...
Dont buy this if u have a decent pc. I have a 3060 and a ryzen 5 5600x and this psu crashes my pc constantly due to the gpu spicking in voltage and the psu not being able to handle it. its a decent psu if ur pairing it with a normal browser desktop pc but its if its a gaming pc.
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I've replaced the £45.84 "Evga 600 W1, 80+ White 600W" PSU from my list with the:
Corsair RM750e (2023) Fully Modular Low-Noise ATX Power Supply - https://www.overclockers.co.uk/cors...atx-power-supply-cp-9020248-uk-ca-26z-cs.html
Priced at £99.98 (again the price is external, from elsewhere)
The Gold standard seems like it's a good quality standard for me for the time being after having checked out the PSUs with Platinum and Titanium ratings I can see the price makes a hell of a jump if wanting this standard!
Having looked online I've seen that a 750W PSU can even support a 4080 if that was an upgrade path I'd take further down the line, is anyone able to verify this? or is this too close to the edge of failing when you get the spikes in TDP from the 4080?

The case I've also changed from the GameMax Silent Mid-Tower PC Gaming Case priced at £81 (again not listed in the OverClockers store, probably not a bad thing it's not there...)
to:
Corsair 4000D AIRFLOW Tempered Glass Mid-Tower ATX Case at £83.99, so only £3 more! (at least the price I'm looking at from an external seller anyway)
www.overclockers.co.uk

Corsair 4000D Airflow Mid-Tower Case - Black Tempered Glass (CC-9011200-WW)

Order Corsair 4000D Airflow Mid-Tower Case - Black Tempered Glass (CC-9011200-WW) now online and benefit from fast delivery.
www.overclockers.co.uk www.overclockers.co.uk

Pretty confident in both of these adjustments

I have one more question which I'm not 100% sure of - where do people go these days to pick up Windows 11 license keys?
from what I can gather getting a Windows 11 Pro license on a personal PC is completely pointless so would be going with "Windows 11 Home"
I've only leaned towards one website which has plenty of good reviews on TrustPilot called ****** (removed due to forum rules - thanks Quartz), looks like they do "Windows 11 Home" license keys for £xx.xx - can anyone vouch for this company?

All of the components above along with all the adjustments and a "Windows 11 Home" license key above brings the cost to £964.20 so just about within budget with a small bit of change :)

Thanks again all for reading my extensive waffling! :cool:
 
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BorisTheFlorist said:
I have one more question which I'm not 100% sure of - where do people go these days to pick up Windows 11 license keys?
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We're not allowed to give details of OCUK's competitors. But if you want a pukka Windows licence with a sticker and everything and not a code emailed to you then OCUK's prices are pretty standard.
 
BorisTheFlorist said:
Having looked online I've seen that a 750W PSU can even support a 4080 if that was an upgrade path I'd take further down the line, is anyone able to verify this? or is this too close to the edge of failing when you get the spikes in TDP from the 4080?
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It's hard to say 100%. Personally, if I was planning to buy a 4080 I'd be buying the 850 version (OCUK have it for 124.99 here). Make sure it is the V2, by the way, since that includes the cable you'll need for a 4080.
 
ANd for my 2p worth, I would get the Thermalright Peerless Assassin @Tetras is always banging on about. 120mm double fans and for the extra £15-£20 you will be far better served over the Coolermaster Hyper 92mm
 
BorisTheFlorist said:
I've created a list on Amazon to get some kind idea of overall price, my budget is £1,000
Not upgrading my 2 monitors for the time being in order to allocate more budget to the PC components, I'll have put up with my basic Samsung LF22T450FQCXXK FullHD displays for now, not the worst going as they're IPS panels, just probably going to hitting the max refresh rate of 75Hz, I'll probably look to upgrade these later in the year.

Currently the price of all the components listed below is £849.56 - this amount I've come to are prices of the products via other sellers, the MSI GeForce RTX 3060 VENTUS price at least is matching the competitors! :cool:

AMD Ryzen 7 5700X Desktop Processor - https://www.overclockers.co.uk/amd-...hz-socket-am4-processor-retail-cp-3d1-am.html
£161
Cooler Master Hyper H412R CPU Air Cooler - 92mm - https://www.overclockers.co.uk/cooler-master-hyper-h412r-cpu-cooler-92mm-hs-07t-cm.html
£23.99
Arctic MX-4 Thermal Compound - https://www.overclockers.co.uk/arctic-mx-4-thermal-compound-4g-th-01b-ar.html
£3.95
MSI GeForce RTX 3060 VENTUS 2X 12G OC Gaming Graphics Card - https://www.overclockers.co.uk/msi-...ddr6-pci-express-graphics-card-gx-374-ms.html
£269.96
ASUS PRIME B550-PLUS AMD B550 ATX Motherboard - https://www.overclockers.co.uk/asus-prime-b550-plus-amd-am4-b550-atx-motherboard-mb-6f6-as.html
£115.95
Crucial Pro RAM 32GB Kit (2x16GB) DDR4 3200MT/s - product is not listed in the OverClockers store
£47.99
Samsung 990 Pro 1TB M.2 2280 PCI-e 4.0 x4 NVMe 1.3c Solid State Drive - https://www.overclockers.co.uk/sams...x4-nvme-1.3c-solid-state-drive-hd-24q-sa.html
£75.99
EVGA 600 W1, 80+ WHITE 600W - product is not listed in the OverClockers store
£45.83
WiFi Card 5400Mbps 6E Wireless WiFi Bluetooth 5.2 PCIe Network Card, 6GHz/5GHz/2.4GHz - product is not listed in the OverClockers store
£23.90
GameMax Silent Mid-Tower ATX case - product is not listed in the OverClockers store
£81
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Made a couple of adjustments to my initial list:

AMD Ryzen 5 5600X 3.7 GHz 6-Core Processor - £131.90
Thermalright Peerless Assassin 120 White 66.17 CFM CPU Cooler - £46.59
MSI MAG B550 TOMAHAWK MAX WIFI ATX AM4 Motherboard - £174.04
Corsair Vengeance LPX 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR4-3200 CL16 Memory - £59.99
Samsung 980 Pro 2 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive - £118.97
MSI GeForce RTX 3060 Ventus 2X 12G GeForce RTX 3060 12GB 12 GB Video Card - £264.98
Corsair 4000D Airflow ATX Mid Tower Case - £79.92
Corsair RM750x (2021) 750 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply - £112.63
New Total: £989.02

I've only now gone and made myself a 2nd alternative list if I decide to throw a bit more money at this build: I'd be getting a slightly more expensive motherboard with an AM5 socket with DDR5 capabilities along with a "AMD Ryzen 5 7600X 4.7 GHz 6-Core" Processor, think it was the base clock of 4.7GHz and Max Boost Clock of up to 5.3GHz which was too tempting :D
This one has a "Asus ROG STRIX B650E-F GAMING WIFI ATX AM5" Motherboard for £255.54 replacing the one above and Corsair Vengeance 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR5-5600 CL36 Memory for £81.99 also replacing the memory from the above list
and of course the AMD Ryzen 5 7600X coming in at £203.40, an extra £71.50 for this processor
Bringing this "alternative" build to a total of £1,164.02... I'm undecided on which one I'm going for just yet :cry:
 
BorisTheFlorist said:
MSI MAG B550 TOMAHAWK MAX WIFI ATX AM4 Motherboard - £174.04

This one has a "Asus ROG STRIX B650E-F GAMING WIFI ATX AM5" Motherboard for £255.54 replacing the one above and Corsair Vengeance 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR5-5600 CL36 Memory for £81.99 also replacing the memory from the above list
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The main concern I'd have with both of your builds is the motherboard. £175 is just too much for an AM4 board, in my opinion, since the main benefit of AM4 (versus AM5) is value for money and £175 would buy you AM5.

With the AM5 board, that's a higher-end board with PCI-E 5.0 graphics, so your spec is more expensive than e.g. comparing a value AM4 build to a value AM5 build (or at least the B650 Tomahawk).

If you're staying with the 3060 for a long time, then I think going AM5 is a waste and you'd actually be better off (in performance terms) upgrading the graphics card with the extra money (e.g. if you squeeze in a RX 6800 XT or 4070, they are not far off twice as fast as the 3060).
 
BorisTheFlorist said:
Made a couple of adjustments to my initial list:

AMD Ryzen 5 5600X 3.7 GHz 6-Core Processor - £131.90
Thermalright Peerless Assassin 120 White 66.17 CFM CPU Cooler - £46.59
MSI MAG B550 TOMAHAWK MAX WIFI ATX AM4 Motherboard - £174.04
Corsair Vengeance LPX 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR4-3200 CL16 Memory - £59.99
Samsung 980 Pro 2 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive - £118.97
MSI GeForce RTX 3060 Ventus 2X 12G GeForce RTX 3060 12GB 12 GB Video Card - £264.98
Corsair 4000D Airflow ATX Mid Tower Case - £79.92
Corsair RM750x (2021) 750 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply - £112.63
New Total: £989.02

I've only now gone and made myself a 2nd alternative list if I decide to throw a bit more money at this build: I'd be getting a slightly more expensive motherboard with an AM5 socket with DDR5 capabilities along with a "AMD Ryzen 5 7600X 4.7 GHz 6-Core" Processor, think it was the base clock of 4.7GHz and Max Boost Clock of up to 5.3GHz which was too tempting :D
This one has a "Asus ROG STRIX B650E-F GAMING WIFI ATX AM5" Motherboard for £255.54 replacing the one above and Corsair Vengeance 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR5-5600 CL36 Memory for £81.99 also replacing the memory from the above list
and of course the AMD Ryzen 5 7600X coming in at £203.40, an extra £71.50 for this processor
Bringing this "alternative" build to a total of £1,164.02... I'm undecided on which one I'm going for just yet :cry:
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If it was me I would be going for the AM5 build purely for the future upgradeability. If it goes like AM4 then 2 or 3 years down the line you will be able to drop the latest cpu in for a significant upgrade just by flashing the board to the latest bios. To me AM4 only really makes sense if you are already on it and not a new build on a dead end platform. One thing I would change though would be the RTX3060 for at least the Sapphire Radeon 6700XT Pulse 12Gb as it's significantly faster yet only £35 extra. That £35 could be more than made up by going for a cheaper but just as good motherboard such as the Asus B650 Plus Gaming wifi saving £55.54 although all the AM5 boards are ridiculously priced.
 
pastymuncher said:
If it was me I would be going for the AM5 build purely for the future upgradeability. If it goes like AM4 then 2 or 3 years down the line you will be able to drop the latest cpu in for a significant upgrade just by flashing the board to the latest bios. To me AM4 only really makes sense if you are already on it and not a new build on a dead end platform. One thing I would change though would be the RTX3060 for at least the Sapphire Radeon 6700XT Pulse 12Gb as it's significantly faster yet only £35 extra. That £35 could be more than made up by going for a cheaper but just as good motherboard such as the Asus B650 Plus Gaming wifi saving £55.54 although all the AM5 boards are ridiculously priced.
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The future proofing was exactly my line of thought when looking at these AM5 boards with DDR5 (as prices of DDR5 memory continue to gradually drop), the graphics card is an easy swap out (replacement) to upgrade, if I buy an AM4 motherboard however then in about a year or so I'd want to upgrade my processor to an AMD CPU using an AM5 socket and my GPU I'd then have to replace the motherboard purely for compatibility reasons as opposed to "lacking performance"

In getting a half-decent AM5 motherboard I should surely be future proofing myself for an easy upgrade? whether it's upgrading my RAM (DDR5, if already on DDR5 then a higher clock speed) or upgrading the CPU (in the hope that there's not a different/new CPU socket on the horizon with AMDs next line of processors! that would be a shame :cry: )

Also from what I understand CPUs are a common bottleneck these days once you're reaching the top-of-the-line hardware, less familiar with the bottlenecks one might experience with the lower-middle performing components but if getting equally-performing components I see no reason why you'd experience anything different? but this is just me speculating now
 
Joxeon said:
I'd get this over the 3060 as you'll get around 30% extra fps + you get Starfield bundled with it.

My basket at OcUK:

Total: £307.98 (includes delivery: £7.99)​

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Nice build but would definitely go with Joxeon suggestion above, much better card for very little extra money and Starfield included.

Or the Sapphire one as see the Asrock has gone up £20.
 
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