Im not sure about this, I do wonder if Man U realised there was no way they couldn't take him back as the legal team would be having heart palpitations at the thought of him taking them to court so had to make it look like were trying to re-integrate him without raising the legal side but with 100% knowledge he'd never play for them again or whether they were actually thinking "Oh well not charged so can't be guilty, we'll have him back" and they underestimated the **** show it would become, I'd like to think it was the former but sadly it's probably the latter.
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You can hold her to whatever standards you want. That still doesn't change his position or that of the club.
Oh come on, he was arguably the best young player in the league, he plays in the primary position in which United are desperate to find somebody, and he's United through and through. If people are saying that they don't want him to stay despite those attributes, then him being a little bit better wouldn't change those views.
If anything, you're the person being hypocritical. You criticise her because she (you say) only wants him for his money, but you then say that the club should absolutely keep him because he's a good footballer.
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I'm all for giving people second chances, even more so if guilt hasn't been proven in court. However it was always difficult to see how Utd could possibly take him back as the evidence against him in the public domain is so damning. So correct decision in my opinion, even if probably made for the wrong reasons.
Regardless of what happens with the rest of his career/life I hope this whole sorry episode has given the little scrote the kick up the backside he so obviously needed. With luck he'll now realise that he can't go through life treating people terribly and will end up a better person for it.
Regardless of what happens with the rest of his career/life I hope this whole sorry episode has given the little scrote the kick up the backside he so obviously needed. With luck he'll now realise that he can't go through life treating people terribly and will end up a better person for it.
He needn't worry, there are always scumbag clubs where he will fit right in, West Ham immediately spring to mind. Or he can go to Saudi where that sort of thing is encouraged.
Course not mate.
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He'll spend a year somewhere with less morals, Turkey, Saudi Arabia, Italy perhaps. Then he'll move back to an English club.
Slightly different but take a look at how well received David goodwillie has been since his transfer from Clyde to Raith rovers went along with the 3 or 4 moves / expected moves because of his civil case.
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Just reading a brief history of his career on wiki that's an interesting one and a microcosm of changing beliefs!
He was convicted in a civil court of rape in 2017, signed for Clyde after that point and played for them for like 5 years with little bother, moved to Raith Rovers in Jan 2022 loads of people kicked off about it and resigned so they loaned him back to Clyde 2 months later whose womens team and local council now decided they didn't want him at the club even though he had been there for 5 years post conviction literally 2 months before!
Shows how much differently this stuff is now taken in 2022 even compared to 5 or so years ago.
"I was brought up to know that violence or abuse in any relationship is wrong, I did not do the things I was accused of"
I take it he didn't listen to the recordings of himself then.
Oh well, right decision from United.
Yeah, the only thing that makes vague sense in the way this has played out is essentially:
Did the thing he was accused of
Persuaded her to take him back and not support prosecution
He might not have done some of the things he was accused of but i'm pretty sure he is an absolute abusive piece of **** who has been a nasty piece of work towards his partner.
If this was all a big misunderstanding and he did nothing wrong he wouldn't have seen this outcome. If his partner had come out and said "it was a sex game gone wrong" or whatever else and explained what had happened they could have sorted this out months ago. Their silence on the matter was quite deafening.
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Woah that David Goodwille stuff is mental.
Pleased they've drawn a line under this affair. I'm all for due process and thorough investigations, innocent until proved otherwise but United have yet again dragged this out to the point where it has had a detrimental impact on the start of another season. Should have been dealt with by the start of the summer allowing the manager, players and Greenwood to move on. Regardless of his guilt the position for such a public company was untenable in respect of his contract. I hope the club and other learn from this episode and that protections are improved for these young millionaires. However, I suspect it won't be long before we unfortunately see another #teenagefootballsensationsexscandal.
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"I was brought up to know that violence or abuse in any relationship is wrong, I did not do the things I was accused of"
Still an absolute coward who shows no accountability for his actions. Feel bad for the victim who will likely be on the receiving end of his ego as he struggles with facing the facts that he train wrecked his own career.
As far as the club... They were in an incredibly difficult position having to face this... however they've unfortunately fudged this at every moment. We knew they'd release some statement to protect every possible angle which naturally conflicts with itself yet I'm still infuriated
Each word is weightless and reads as an admittance of being unable to make the moral choice against the value of the player. Just do everything to protect the investment/money and it's so blatantly obvious for anyone with two brain cells and a dash of critical thinking.
I naively wanted more from them.
Still an absolute coward who shows no accountability for his actions. Feel bad for the victim who will likely be on the receiving end of his ego as he struggles with facing the facts that he train wrecked his own career.
As far as the club... They were in an incredibly difficult position having to face this... however they've unfortunately fudged this at every moment. We knew they'd release some statement to protect every possible angle which naturally conflicts with itself yet I'm still infuriated
Each word is weightless and reads as an admittance of being unable to make the moral choice against the value of the player. Just do everything to protect the investment/money and it's so blatantly obvious for anyone with two brain cells and a dash of critical thinking.
I naively wanted more from them.
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So in summary, Utd's board and management always thought there was a way back for him after charges were dropped. Tested the water over the last few weeks before ultimately pushing the burden of the decision on the shoulders of the lasses of beaten WC finalists as soon as they were back in the country but thankfully have seen / been forced to see sense before that had to happen.
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He just comes across as the type of person that when he found out his career at united was down the toilet, he went home and blamed his missus for all of it...
Disappointing news, was hoping he would come back at some point as he's a deadly finisher.
He was found not guilty so personally I don't see what the problem would have been, but I guess there's would always be people (women) moaning about it, so from a PR view guess it's better this way.
He was found not guilty so personally I don't see what the problem would have been, but I guess there's would always be people (women) moaning about it, so from a PR view guess it's better this way.
He wasn't found not guilty as it never went to trial, the complainant withdrew her cooperation which led to the charges being dropped.
You don't see what the problem would have been yet no one has come up with a valid explanation for what we've seen and heard? Must have been a deepfake or roleplay amirite?
The club said there were 'alternative explanations' and the audio was part of a longer clip. What they mean by that, I don't know.
I don't think it matters either way at this point, the public are violently against him playing at any level, globally it seems - Saudi Arabia and now Roma have said they aren't interested.
While his actions must be condemned, is there no prospect of redemption whatsoever? Chelsea signed Marcos Alonso after he'd been convicted of killing someone while being drunk at the wheel. Obviously it's not a competition to see who can reach the bottom of the barrel first, but the media barely mentioned that.
I think if he wants to play again, anywhere, they are going to have to provide some of this mitigating narrative.