COVID-19 (Coronavirus) discussion

ebilcake said:
That was certainly true for the first variant but not so much now, the variants doing the rounds now are pretty mild in comparison. First time around I just felt weak for 10 days with what was basically a head cold, I've had it twice since and I was just light symptoms for a few days... Probably had again but I don't test anymore, I'm done with Covid.
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But is Covid done with humanity ? The latest strains are causing far fewer acute hospitalisations, but long covid is still a major concern. I've seen some reports stating that with the Omicron & Eris strains the risk is potentially as high as 15%. And as someone who has LC, trust me ... you don't want it.
 
Ayahuasca said:
Could be completely unrelated but I've been having vision issues post COVID. On and off throughout the day my eyes just go like double visioned.

I've had them checked and my vision is absolutely fine. From a quick look online, it seems to be quite common post covid.
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Yup, I developed this as part of long Covid. And like you, my visual acuity tests just fine. The problem in my case is to do with "accomodation" - or how the eye is able to adjust the focal length for near/distance objects. With age this gets gradually worse, but mine suddenly changed following the acute infection. Still not back to normal 3 years later.
 
Rroff said:
Dunno if related to blood oxygen but for weeks after COVID I was getting random episodes where I'd get hit by fatigue and have to sit down for 5-10 minutes and my blood oxygen would drop right out but quickly recover. Quite odd really.

At the expense of delving into medical advice I wonder if maybe borderline for diabetes or something and due to residual effects of COVID getting something similar with blood sugar levels being briefly out of whack.
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Diabetes doesn't affect oxygen saturation. But I did have episodic drops following my first acute infection ( with the Wuhan strain ). There are a number of theories to explain it : with the Wuhan strain there was evidence that the virus caused the "haem" unit to be damaged on red cells which resulted in lower oxygen carrying capacity. There is also a vasculits theory ie. "sticky" or damaged blood vessels causing microclots in the pulmonary vasculature. Also, in some individuals who had "mild" Covid ie. weren't hospitalised but complained of breathlessness, subsequent testing with CT imaging ( using Xenon ) showed scarring/inflammation in the lungs not visible on standard x-ray ( or even CT imaging without xenon ).
 
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xaldub said:
Diabetes doesn't affect oxygen saturation. But I did have episodic drops following my first acute infection ( with the Wuhan strain ). There are a number of theories to explain it : with the Wuhan strain there was evidence that the virus caused the "haem" unit to be damaged on red cells which resulted in lower oxygen carrying capacity. There is also a vasculits theory ie. "sticky" or damaged blood vessels causing microclots in the pulmonary vasculature. Also, in some individuals who had "mild" Covid ie. weren't hospitalised but complained of breathlessness, subsequent testing with CT imaging ( using Xenon ) showed scarring/inflammation in the lungs not visible on standard x-ray ( or even CT imaging without xenon ).
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Wasn't suggesting a relationship with diabetes and blood oxygen there - but wondering if COVID could also cause something similar to the episodes of fatigue with low blood oxygen but involving blood sugar levels.
 
Rroff said:
Wasn't suggesting a relationship with diabetes and blood oxygen there - but wondering if COVID could also cause something similar to the episodes of fatigue with low blood oxygen but involving blood sugar levels.
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Not aware of anything on that front. But Covid can cause diabetes ( as can other viral infections ).
 
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xaldub said:
But is Covid done with humanity ? The latest strains are causing far fewer acute hospitalisations, but long covid is still a major concern. I've seen some reports stating that with the Omicron & Eris strains the risk is potentially as high as 15%. And as someone who has LC, trust me ... you don't want it.
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It obviously sucks for people with long Covid, but I've seen nothing to suggest the new variants are anything to be concerned about.

More concerned about the continuing trend of increased excess deaths tbh....
 
xaldub said:
The two may be linked ....
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Probably not, there's not a statistical correlation between covid and non-covid excess deaths starting in 2021. Same thing has happened in most western nations regardless of the steps they took with covid (*or that should be most of the steps).
 
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Jokester said:
Probably not, there's not a statistical correlation between covid and non-covid excess deaths starting in 2021. Same thing has happened in most western nations regardless of the steps they took with covid (*or that should be most of the steps).
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The way the data is collected in most western countries is problematic though. What is a Covid death ? Sounds a simple question, but the reality is far different. Early on in the pandemic Covid related deaths were exaggerated ie. patients dying from other causes but just happened to test Covid positive were still counted as a Covid related death. Fast forward to present day, and the opposite is true. Patients with long Covid who die at a later date often don't have Covid listed in their death certificate. Ergo the distinction between a Covid and a non-Covid death is blurred. And then, of course, there is the controversy surrounding the vaccination programme and its temporal correlation with excess deaths across all age groups.
 
xaldub said:
The way the data is collected in most western countries is problematic though. What is a Covid death ? Sounds a simple question, but the reality is far different. Early on in the pandemic Covid related deaths were exaggerated ie. patients dying from other causes but just happened to test Covid positive were still counted as a Covid related death. Fast forward to present day, and the opposite is true. Patients with long Covid who die at a later date often don't have Covid listed in their death certificate. Ergo the distinction between a Covid and a non-Covid death is blurred. And then, of course, there is the controversy surrounding the vaccination programme and its temporal correlation with excess deaths across all age groups.
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eu.usatoday.com

More young Americans are dying – and it's not COVID. Why aren't we searching for answers?

Among workers 35 to 44 years old, a stunning 34% more died than expected last quarter, with above-average rates in other age groups, too. But why?
eu.usatoday.com eu.usatoday.com

They know it's not covid, because there's been a simultaneous increase in exces mortality in all western nations, despite the large variance of covid infection prior to the roll out of vaccination and opening of borders etc.
 
Jokester said:
eu.usatoday.com

More young Americans are dying – and it's not COVID. Why aren't we searching for answers?

Among workers 35 to 44 years old, a stunning 34% more died than expected last quarter, with above-average rates in other age groups, too. But why?
eu.usatoday.com eu.usatoday.com

They know it's not covid, because there's been a simultaneous increase in exces mortality in all western nations, despite the large variance of covid infection prior to the roll out of vaccination and opening of borders etc.
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Yup, I've seen that opinion piece already. It doesn't exclude Covid as a contributory cause. Part of the problem, as I've already stated, is that the statistical data is incomplete and lacks granular detail for a more comprehensive analysis. What I am concerned about, and I agree with the article, is that there is a worrying lack of urgency amongst Western countries to investigate this further. The cynic in me suspects that this is because those governments already know the cause <vaccines*cough*>
 
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I think the big issue now is long covid aka pasc (postacute sequelae of SARS-CoV-2 infection).

The body is struggling to remove the virus. This combined with reinfections is going to catch up with everyone at some point.

There are drugs being worked on now to counter the symptoms so the body can operate normally while it's repairing. But it is a race against the virus.

I was a bit of a skeptical of covid when it came on the scene. But I think that was because the government message was overly managed. It was also contradictory. On the one hand saying we had to lockdown, while at the same time not closing down entry from highly infected areas of the world. Other countries like Australia and New Zealand were taking the immigration side more seriously (maybe abit overly so). But their message was more consistent I thought.
 
I see the CDC as let slip some interesting information about this new variant, that a person is more likely to be infected if they have previously had covid OR they have had the vaccine.

This isn't a surprise to me as a big problem with covid is even when it's dead it takes months, even years, for the body to remove it. The same effect is happening with the vaccine.

Millions of people are being put out of work, or have severely restricted lives after long covid as been triggered.

Unless some medication appears on the scene to solve this entire populations will become disabled (assuming you've not died from the active covid virus).
 
This is the latest CDC update.

Risk Assessment Summary for SARS CoV-2 Sublineage BA.2.86 | CDC

Read the risk assessment CDC prepared about the new COVID-19 Variant BA2.86 being tracked.
www.cdc.gov www.cdc.gov

Based on what CDC knows now, existing tests used to detect and medications used to treat COVID-19 appear to be effective with this variant. BA.2.86 may be more capable of causing infection in people who have previously had COVID-19 or who have received COVID-19 vaccines.
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Mr Jack said:
1.9 million with Long Covid in the UK as of March this year, and the numbers are still going up. And that's just the UK.

It's not "over dramatic" to talk about. We need to be taking this seriously instead of brushing it under the carpet.
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I was one of those who initially thought that long-covid was overblown and only affected those who were in poor health with things like autoimmune conditions etc before they caught it.

Now it seems quite clear that it's very real and as people go through 2, 3, 4+ rounds of infection the chances of having lingering symptoms increase.
 
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