Not being funny, but would you want to aggravate the guy who murders people by throwing chemical weapons around in a busy town? The man just wants to give rural areas fast internet, not provide ordinance to wind up the worlds biggest head the balls!
Ukraine Invasion - Please do not post videos showing attacks/similar
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As somebody mentioned a few pages back, Russia are restarting T-80 production, but what wasn't really known until now is why.
At first glance, committing scarce resources to restarting a production line that shut down 30+ years ago when you don't even have the parts on hand sounds ludicrous. Especially when you're still making T-72 and T-90 tanks, but there is method to the madness.
If they tried to increase T-72 or T-90 production they would have to create a whole new production line for a tank (I say a tank as the T-90 is itself a T-72 variant, renamed for marketing purposes) they're already struggling to get the parts for, but because the T-80 is an upgraded version of the Ukrainian T-64, it shares less parts than the T-72 and T-90. By restarting the T-80 line they open up alternative avenues for parts and it means they can salvage parts from T-64/80 tanks in storage that are unrepairable to fill in the short fall. Obviously the old line will not be reactivated overnight.
Another reason behind it is that while we never really hear of Russian successes in this war, they do occasionally have them. And one of their big-er successes thus far has been the introduction of the BMPT "Terminator", which is essentially a modern successor to the ZSU-23-4 (which is still in service today with many ex-Soviet states/allies, inc Ukraine). They have now upgraded this design into the BMPT-72 "Terminator 2" which uses a T-72 hull. This means that every new or modernized T-72/T-90 that rolls out the factory could have been a BMPT-72, and right now they want them more than they want extra T-72/T-90 tanks.
For anyone who hasn't seen one of these, image a T-72 with the turret replaced by four NLAWs and a dual autocannon, plus in uncharacteristic Russian fashion the optics to make it usable. So no harder to destroy than a T-72/T-90, but much more lethal on a modern battlefield.
So yeah, we knew that was happening but now we also know why.
At first glance, committing scarce resources to restarting a production line that shut down 30+ years ago when you don't even have the parts on hand sounds ludicrous. Especially when you're still making T-72 and T-90 tanks, but there is method to the madness.
If they tried to increase T-72 or T-90 production they would have to create a whole new production line for a tank (I say a tank as the T-90 is itself a T-72 variant, renamed for marketing purposes) they're already struggling to get the parts for, but because the T-80 is an upgraded version of the Ukrainian T-64, it shares less parts than the T-72 and T-90. By restarting the T-80 line they open up alternative avenues for parts and it means they can salvage parts from T-64/80 tanks in storage that are unrepairable to fill in the short fall. Obviously the old line will not be reactivated overnight.
Another reason behind it is that while we never really hear of Russian successes in this war, they do occasionally have them. And one of their big-er successes thus far has been the introduction of the BMPT "Terminator", which is essentially a modern successor to the ZSU-23-4 (which is still in service today with many ex-Soviet states/allies, inc Ukraine). They have now upgraded this design into the BMPT-72 "Terminator 2" which uses a T-72 hull. This means that every new or modernized T-72/T-90 that rolls out the factory could have been a BMPT-72, and right now they want them more than they want extra T-72/T-90 tanks.
For anyone who hasn't seen one of these, image a T-72 with the turret replaced by four NLAWs and a dual autocannon, plus in uncharacteristic Russian fashion the optics to make it usable. So no harder to destroy than a T-72/T-90, but much more lethal on a modern battlefield.
So yeah, we knew that was happening but now we also know why.
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Superstructure is ripperino'd, hull looks alright though
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Can they buy T-Cut in Russia, or have they drank it all?
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This war is really turning into Stalker/Metro.
And what did it look like after the explosion?
I've not seen many reports, outside a couple of individual instances, where the BMPTs have performed - months back they ended up pulling the initial ~13 or however many it was back to defensive use after failings in their intended role, though there is at least one recent video of one being damaged in frontline use.
I suspect any T-80 produced now will be using a lot of off the shelf parts and probably be simplified quite a lot from older ones - probably very similar to a basic T-72, be interesting to see what they are using engine wise - doesn't look like Klimov still produce the original turbines.
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If it was in drydock the fire could have damaged the hull structure much worse than if it was in the water due to heat, IIRC even in the water heat damage from a bad fire can write off a ship (or at least make it much more expensive), out of the water you're probably going to have a much worse issue because you don't have the sea as a heatsink.
At the very least if they want it to be usable again and not just potentially waste a fortune getting it "ready" only for it to end up straight back in the docks they're potentially going to have to do a lot of testing before they start any other works on it, and given Russia from memory has a shortage of naval repair docks, especially outside of missile range that's going to be an issue. I suspect they're not getting that boat back up and running under it's own power or at least in any fighting shape for a very long time (even before they invaded Ukraine they struggled).
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Good idea that, won't need to cut out any portholes.
Thought I'd have a quick looksie and see what they were
BMPT-72 Terminator 2 tank fire support tracked armoured vehicle data
BMPT-72 Terminator 2 tank fire support tracked armoured fighting vehicle Russia technical data fact sheet pictures video
It's a nice touch. Perfect for lamenting Putin's lunacy during a high-speed retreat. Unless that's a military term in which case I can only apologise for my ignorance
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