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3090 To a 7900xt/x worth it?
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Caporegime
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As an XTX owner I'd have to agree, hold off and see what the next gen brings 
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It is in some way but so far behind in others. Read the op and come back to me on so far in front with your windows xp control panel. I read what he wants and AMD have the package he is asking for. No mention of DLSS or Ray Tracing so i will assume until he says other wise that's not his priority. Try ticking off the boxes he's after and you can easily see Nvidia can't provide that. 3090's still sell well so the outlay on a decent deal could be as little as £100 which is not to much.
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I agree but the op is wanting more than gameplay/fps he wants integrated features that Nvidia don't provide. Wouldn't be off the charts to sell his 3090 for £600 possibly a bit less and pick up a £700 7900xt so not a big outlay for his needs. Gotta be the correct deal and sale of his card to make much sense though. I think a lot of long term Nvidia users underestimate just how good the AMD software is compared to the caveman control panel that Nvidia offer. The xtx is to much but the xt at the right price and model ain't to far a stretch.I probably should've worded that better, I meant to say that it just isn't enough of an uplift to justify the cost.
Op should just wait for next gen, I used to justify my excessive purchases similarly citing temperatures, noise and what not, but at the end of the day if I can play games just fine without looking at the FPS counter then I really don't need to upgrade, I wear headphones 90% of the time so noise isn't much of a concern either
Op is saying some games are struggling at 144+, other than shooters I've never really felt the need to go above 80 FPS tbh, and most FPS shooters that basically necessitate 120+ fps are already tuned to run on potatoes anyways
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I'd still say don't bother, Nvidia still offer the better all-round package imo. The fact that AMD plain *refuse* to offer a hardware-upscaling option even though the 7000-series is capable is a big big minus imo and I've been an AMD fan for a while. FSR (during motion) is a far subpar experience compared to the latest DLSS one.
They just don't seem to have the resources to compete on an even level and at this rate never shall.
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I agree but again read the op and what he is after, DLSS/RT is not mentioned. He wants built in software to control all parts of his card, hardware monitoring, fan control and a cool running card none of that is a 3090. If he does value RT and DLSS of course stick with the 3090 and again would have to be a good money swap to even consider it. Just depends on how important these features are for him as well.
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For how easy this is to do even without AMD's 'help' I'd still say keep it, couple of YT videos later for dumbasses and he's sorted
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I know but he wants an all in one which is why he's even considering it. He knows it not gonna be a huge boost performance wise at 20% no RT but he obviously don't want to use 3 programs and the 3090 requires more taming than he would like. My point is what he would like control wise and Nvidia is not offering it. If Nvidia got off there butts he would not be here. I still don't know why they just don't upgrade that part as they are ahead in almost every metric but give there users stone age software. Jen ain't stupid as we know so there must be some logic to it but i can't find it.For how easy this is to do even without AMD's 'help' I'd still say keep it, couple of YT videos later for dumbasses and he's sorted
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You certainly have mate. 3090 v 7900xt is not something most off us would do but in the current climate a few hundred maybe less for what you want is not a stretch hahaha. After all 1600 bucks is the new best deal.
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I feel like AMD is always a compromise and the quality lies with Nvidia. Bit like Samsung, good but always something up with their phones.
Jensen wasn't wrong when he launched the 20 series and said "it just works"
Jensen wasn't wrong when he launched the 20 series and said "it just works"
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Could say the same about Vram and control panel on Nvidia. If RT/DLSS is not your thing then Nvidia have there compromises the other way as they are slower and more expensive. No sure on the phone side either as Samsung for me are better than Iphone and less restrictive. If i bought a 4080 like you i would be 75% more expensive for 10% more performance. It's really all in what your needs are to what you should buy.
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You neglect to mention that yours was a BGrade deal, and if it breaks it's nothing but an expensive door-stop.
I didn't need to mention it was a BGrade deal, I said "outlier", which suggests it isn't the normal. And GPUs hardly every fail, no worries here, by time this one is gone be on 70 series.
I'm in the same predicament, as the 3090 struggles a little at 3440x1440 if you want games to look as good as possible.
However, it doesn't make sense to upgrade at the moment. I'd probably have bought a 4080 by now if prices for the same tier card were anywhere near what they were last generation.
I can afford it, but at my age and the amount of time I can realistically devote to gaming without neglecting other things in life, I'd feel dirty spending four figures on one component.
However, it doesn't make sense to upgrade at the moment. I'd probably have bought a 4080 by now if prices for the same tier card were anywhere near what they were last generation.
I can afford it, but at my age and the amount of time I can realistically devote to gaming without neglecting other things in life, I'd feel dirty spending four figures on one component.
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I got mine for £660 so it's around there. It is more like 60% for cheapest v cheapest but i reckon you would need to go more to match the quality of the pulse cooler. Still 60% for 10% more performance if you don't need DLSS/High RT. Nobody should be buying Nvidia if those things are not your priority.
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This is some of the most far fetched weak sauce justification for a purchase I have seen in a while!
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Which part, AMD offer what he has stated, Nvidia need multiple programs. AMD software has much more control than Nvidia offer along with full monitoring of your system.This is some of the most far fetched weak sauce justification for a purchase I have seen in a while!
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Yeah the pricing makes the 7000 series and 4000 series look a bit daft. Maybe the 7900XT is starting to be worthy of a look if your sporting anything in the RTX 3700 or RX 6700XT or below brackets but otherwise I would just keep what I have.