Anyone used thermal liner (wall) paper?

Scam said:
It is, 1903. External walls appear to be solid two layers of brick with no cavity. (No idea of the technical term sorry). I’ll post a pic tomorrow as we have it all showing where we’ve put in the new back door. So yeah, cavity wall insulation is not happening and if we reboard etc we’d be losing a fair amount of space.

Thanks for the link, will check that out.


Apparently it does, will have to be careful with elbows etc :p
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I'm pretty certain you have solid walls, cavity walls didn't start being buil until the 1930s.

I've being doing lots of research on this recently as our new place is olid walls, so it's a different kettle of fish to newer properties. Old places were built to breath, hence their use of lime mortar between the bricks, lime plaster internally. Putting on PIR boards is bad, but even worse would be layers of gypsum plaster as it will just promote condensation and damp.

Depends on your budget and what you're looking to accomplish really, but the right way for older properties isn't as cheap as the simple modern methods (PIR boards), plasterboard and gypsum plaster. If you're going to be in the house for a good period of time then do it properly.

You can also start with other ways to reduce heat loss, possible under floor insulation if you can get under the floor. Or focus on reducing the losses to ventilation (draft) as these are brutal for losses and relatively cheap and easy to fix.

I'm going to grab a Thermal Imaging camera (Topdon) as my place has solid walls and suspended floors downstairs but has been extended over the years upwards. So it'll be vital for figuring out what's in the walls/ceilings and how I can improve it. The external walls will not get insulated in the next year as we'll wait another year or so until we do the windows/doors at the same time.
 
I used it in our master bedroom where the bay window is and the wall is single block with facia board.
Made a nice difference the wall doesn't feel cold anymore.
 
Actually I forgot all about this - my mum used to use it when decorating in the 1970's. Polystyrene rolls which went under the wall paper - easy to puncture though. I suspect they have something better these days
 
rumple9 said:
Actually I forgot all about this - my mum used to use it when decorating in the 1970's. Polystyrene rolls which went under the wall paper - easy to puncture though. I suspect they have something better these days
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I seem to remember this was pretty popular back in the day to fix a number of issues. Uneven surfaces, damp and condensation.
 
rumple9 said:
Actually I forgot all about this - my mum used to use it when decorating in the 1970's. Polystyrene rolls which went under the wall paper - easy to puncture though. I suspect they have something better these days
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This stuff has a felt backing so similar but different. You wouldn’t be able to puncture through it very easily, it’s very strong.
 
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Realise I'm a bit late to this thread but thought better to join than start a new one. We want to install WallRock thermal lining paper and are relying on the agent for our house in London to arrange a contractor. They claim it is very difficult and will require a specialist. Since some of you have experience with this, can you advise what sort of contractor would be right for this job? I imagined someone who could install wallpaper. But maybe this is harder than I imagined?
 
I did my own with thermal lining paper then lining paper on top of that followed by final paint.

I am not a decorator turned out fine.
pretty sure there are no specialist thermal lining paper installers, just a normal decorator should have the skills.
 
SpellowHouse said:
Why do you want it?
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Err, to add insulation to your house..

@targagruba our decorators knocked it up very quickly. Like, probably less than an hour for one wall. But they are super fast and experienced, they were just as quick with our wallpaper and did a great job. Besides getting someone experienced in wallpapering, I don’t imagine you’d need a “specialist”.
 
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Scam said:
Err, to add insulation to your house..

@targagruba our decorators knocked it up very quickly. Like, probably less than an hour for one wall. But they are super fast and experienced, they were just as quick with our wallpaper and did a great job. Besides getting someone experienced in wallpapering, I don’t imagine you’d need a “specialist”.
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I think there are a number of valid reasons to use it, but adding to the house insulation is not really viable if they are going to pay someone to do it. If you are going to pay someone, might as will have insulated plasterboard put up. Then they end up with it being way better insulated, and a perfect surface for painting or papering.
 
SpellowHouse said:
I think there are a number of valid reasons to use it, but adding to the house insulation is not really viable if they are going to pay someone to do it. If you are going to pay someone, might as will have insulated plasterboard put up. Then they end up with it being way better insulated, and a perfect surface for painting or papering.
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I don't think our decorators even charged us for it, and anything deeper on the wall would make our big sash windows with architrave around look a bit silly. I don't understand why it wouldn't be viable. It's better than not doing it. If you're talking in cost terms then we're not bothered about that, we just want to make a terraced house built in 1903 as warm as we possibly can without ruining the character of it.
 
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Thanks for these responses. We are doing it on the recommendation of an independent damp expert. Unfortunately, we have a corner end-of-terrace 1890s house and the long exterior wall never gets any sun and has caused us no end of headaches. Hoping this might help.
 
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I'm pretty certain you have solid walls, cavity walls didn't start being buil until the 1930s.
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As an aside this varies a bit - a lot of the Victorian era terrace houses built in the south west have cavity walls for whatever reason.

The second house I lived in was 1886 build with damp issues and had cavity walls for most of the original structure but not for the extensions which were built in the early 1900s - but weirdly in the 1970s someone went in and did extensive work to rebuild the main extension with cavity walls but then added another extension (for a bathroom) on to the main extension which didn't.
 
kinetic747 said:
I tried some thermal paint in our hall as an undercoat and it's definitely made the walls warmer to the touch. Every little helps right? :)
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Replying to an old post I know but since the thread was dragged up anyway, may I ask what paint you used and if you've felt it's made any difference? One of the walls in my son's bedroom is the external wall and it always feel cold, if the paint could help it feel a little warmer to the touch that would be nice as it's right next to the bed.
 
valve90210 said:
Replying to an old post I know but since the thread was dragged up anyway, may I ask what paint you used and if you've felt it's made any difference? One of the walls in my son's bedroom is the external wall and it always feel cold, if the paint could help it feel a little warmer to the touch that would be nice as it's right next to the bed.
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Yes it's a thermal anti condensation paint from Suretherm. I'm not kidding myself that it's made the room warmer, but it's definitely warmer to the touch. Our biggest external wall is in the hallway, so I've used it there. I have some left, so I intend painting an external wall in the bathroom with it, as it's the only wall that isn't tiled. It's quite thick to apply with a grainy finish, and I did two coats, but looks good once over painted. You can of course wallpaper over it if you wish.
 
kinetic747 said:
Yes it's a thermal anti condensation paint from Suretherm. I'm not kidding myself that it's made the room warmer, but it's definitely warmer to the touch. Our biggest external wall is in the hallway, so I've used it there. I have some left, so I intend painting an external wall in the bathroom with it, as it's the only wall that isn't tiled. It's quite thick to apply with a grainy finish, and I did two coats, but looks good once over painted. You can of course wallpaper over it if you wish.
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Thanks for the info, I shall have a look into it as it sounds like it might be quite useful in my lad's room.
 
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