Manifolds confuse me

Jay85

Jay85

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I've been looking at Manifolds all morning and i'm a little tempted to try my hand at setting one up instead of using a Distro plate.

My current system looks like this and with the pump at the front. If i add a Manifold, im thinking the pump would sit below the manifold and have each component CPU and GPU feed into the manifold in either series or parallel. Question is how on earth would i do that to keep the flow rates up?






A Really rough drawing lol

 
Mcnumpty2323 said:
Well that's a new one on me
What's the difference
Between a manifold and a distro?
Other than a pump/lack of a pump built into it
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From what i've made out so far, i can choose to run in Serial or Parallel as the manifold itself is configurable as in you can dismantle the internals and change them to how you want.

Because its so versatile it also confuses the hell out of me lol.
 
Someone mentioned if i run in Parallel i could disconnect the gpu and still be able to run the system as is as it will bypass the gpu ports as i intend to have everything on Quick Disconnects.
 
Jay85 said:
Someone mentioned if i run in Parallel i could disconnect the gpu and still be able to run the system as is as it will bypass the gpu ports as i intend to have everything on Quick Disconnects.
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After a very quick Google
That sounds feasible
Seems like theyve been around quite a while
Surprised I have never noticed them before
Shame I sold my quick disconnects
On mm
Or could have fun with one of those manifolds
 
Mcnumpty2323 said:
After a very quick Google
That sounds feasible
Seems like theyve been around quite a while
Surprised I have never noticed them before
Shame I sold my quick disconnects
On mm
Or could have fun with one of those manifolds
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Yeah not many people use them, probably cos its so confusing :cry:. I brewed myself a headache just looking at the diagram lol!

I worked out how much the whole setup will cost me to implement, its around £250! Cos i need the QD's, 4 male, 4 female alone is £150 lol.

Gonna have to try and source some for cheap i think to make it more feasible. I'm really interested in trying to run this in Parallel though, that was one of the most interesting points and able to to quickly disconnect so i can remove the cpu and gpu block without faffing around trying to drain it first.
 
Jay85 said:
Yeah not many people use them, probably cos its so confusing :cry:. I brewed myself a headache just looking at the diagram lol!

I worked out how much the whole setup will cost me to implement, its around £250! Cos i need the QD's, 4 male, 4 female alone is £150 lol.

Gonna have to try and source some for cheap i think to make it more feasible. I'm really interested in trying to run this in Parallel though, that was one of the most interesting points and able to to quickly disconnect so i can remove the cpu and gpu block without faffing around trying to drain it first.
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Yeah the quick disconnects aren't cheap
I had those koolance ones
A long time
Just picking one up
You could tell they were quality
No idea if the newer versions are so solid
Sold mine on mm for a lot less than £150 lol
Ask in wanted section
No doubt someone will have some laying around
 
Mcnumpty2323 said:
Yeah the quick disconnects aren't cheap
I had those koolance ones
A long time
Just picking one up
You could tell they were quality
No idea if the newer versions are so solid
Sold mine on mm for a lot less than £150 lol
Ask in wanted section
No doubt someone will have some laying around
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Man wish i needed it at the time, i would have bought them off you lol.

I already have a few for disconnecting the radiator to the main rig, the QD3's are solid and never failed on me. I had some Alphacool ones as well but they were abit flimsy... one failed on me as well, the locking ring got stuck. Feels like the bearing inside got dislodged.

I think i may have worked out my run for this but its not the neatest and certainly not how i want it to be as i would have preferred it another way tbh. Still can't figure out how parallel would work in this scenario.

Check this:

 
Jay85 said:
Man wish i needed it at the time, i would have bought them off you lol.

I already have a few for disconnecting the radiator to the main rig, the QD3's are solid and never failed on me. I had some Alphacool ones as well but they were abit flimsy... one failed on me as well, the locking ring got stuck. Feels like the bearing inside got dislodged.

I think i may have worked out my run for this but its not the neatest and certainly not how i want it to be as i would have preferred it another way tbh. Still can't figure out how parallel would work in this scenario.

Check this:

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just the fact from gpu arrow is pointing outwards
and to gpu pointing inwards
is already giving me a headache lol
 
not sure i 100% get it either
but in my head anyway
looks useful if you had multiple gpus
and maybe even 2 cpus in a workstation as well

not sure about a simpler system
such as the one jay85 shows

in my head again lol
say you have 3 gpus and 1 cpu
the cpu can get flow separately from the gpus
each of the 3 gpus would get 1/3 of the flow on the gpu part
and you would be able to disconnect any of the gpus

though i may be totally wrong lol
plus useful if you have a pc where theres no distro
been made for it
a custom distro would cost a lot more than that manifold
 
labbby said:
arghhh I don't get it.
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Mcnumpty2323 said:
not sure i 100% get it either
but in my head anyway
looks useful if you had multiple gpus
and maybe even 2 cpus in a workstation as well

not sure about a simpler system
such as the one jay85 shows

in my head again lol
say you have 3 gpus and 1 cpu
the cpu can get flow separately from the gpus
each of the 3 gpus would get 1/3 of the flow on the gpu part
and you would be able to disconnect any of the gpus

though i may be totally wrong lol
plus useful if you have a pc where theres no distro
been made for it
a custom distro would cost a lot more than that manifold
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I need to tidy the drawing up but some of the arrows are facing the wrong way lol.

Yup totally agree, i think the point of it, is to run multiple gpu's and cpu's in like a server config. Allowing you to quickly remove any component quickly without having to drain the system.

Im trying real hard to not purchase one to mess about with but its getting the better of me lol. Its a good job i haven't found any cheap Koolance QD's yet...

pastymuncher said:
Personally I think it looks great as it is and wouldn't change a thing. That gpu block looks fantastic!!
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Yeah, the gpu block is still very much the centre piece of the case. I find myself just staring at the internals and looking at all the intricate detail in there. The other part of me really wants to tweak this further ha!
 
Wish I hadn't got rid of the quick disconnects now lol
Looking at swapping gpus
Lot more effort without quick disconnects
But the plan was to hard tube
So I sold them
Only to find half my stuff was matrix 7
And the other half wasn't
Made for a very unhappy Xmas build
Had to scrap hard Tubing idea
And just bodge it in with zmt instead
Been like that ever since

Go on you know you want to lol
Wouldn't be custom watercooling if you didn't experiment
With stuff you haven't tried
 
Mcnumpty2323 said:
Wish I hadn't got rid of the quick disconnects now lol
Looking at swapping gpus
Lot more effort without quick disconnects
But the plan was to hard tube
So I sold them
Only to find half my stuff was matrix 7
And the other half wasn't
Made for a very unhappy Xmas build
Had to scrap hard Tubing idea
And just bodge it in with zmt instead
Been like that ever since

Go on you know you want to lol
Wouldn't be custom watercooling if you didn't experiment
With stuff you haven't tried
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oh man that must have been heartbreaking to get to that stage only to find its not what you wanted! I'd be fuming!

No plans to go back to it and correct it all?


I know i know, its very very tempting right now. Im actually in the middle of designing a 3D printed mount so i can attach it to the front of the case :cry:
 
Jay85 said:
oh man that must have been heartbreaking to get to that stage only to find its not what you wanted! I'd be fuming!

No plans to go back to it and correct it all?


I know i know, its very very tempting right now. Im actually in the middle of designing a 3D printed mount so i can attach it to the front of the case :cry:
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Yeah it was
Especially over Xmas
Couldn't return anything and order different stuff
Not sure if will ever fix it
A new version 2 distro is 300 quid or something silly
And the ek quantum surface rads
We're over a hundred quid each
So no cheap way to remedy it now
Even the ek torque fittings
Added up to about 200
Just have to live with it
For now anyway
Still does the job
Just doesn't look great like planned

Couldn't you 3d print
The whole manifold ?
 
Mcnumpty2323 said:
Yeah it was
Especially over Xmas
Couldn't return anything and order different stuff
Not sure if will ever fix it
A new version 2 distro is 300 quid or something silly
And the ek quantum surface rads
We're over a hundred quid each
So no cheap way to remedy it now
Even the ek torque fittings
Added up to about 200
Just have to live with it
For now anyway
Still does the job
Just doesn't look great like planned

Couldn't you 3d print
The whole manifold ?
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Oooof thats a big headache, i bet there was some temptation to hold out and return it all and get the correct stuff sent to you instead but i totally understand the anticipation to get building lol.

I could but to design it and get it all correct would be a pain in the arse. I rather just pay the £70 for the manifold and be done with it tbh, it's only the QD3's that are holding me back abit cos its a lot of money for fittings.


I've reworked the diagram, this should make more sense now. I can actually see how it will flow.


 
Those instructions are bloody atrocious :(

I feel like this is massively over complicating things and honestly can't see what the benefit is in a standard build. Going parallel requires higher flow rate in the pump and overall system. Perhaps helps lower resistance but probably requires higher pump speed at the end of the day.

But if it looks cool and scratches the tinkering itch, jump right in :D
 
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