Manifolds confuse me

Leave you loop as it is, your just bored and want something to waste money on :p. Personally I think nowadays people just want to make their loops more complicated for the sake of it. Distroplates may have their use in for making your tubing rubs easier but they restrict flow and just make everyones systems look the same. Manifolds are great if you use them with quick disconnects so you can remove components keep your loop running but their look pretty rubbish imo and again probably kills flow but I'm just guessing here.

For me nothing beats a nice simple loop :)
 
It may help to understand the instruction image they give that the ones marked "pre-assembled" and "semi-parallel", i.e. left and middle images, are identical in function and are just mirror images of each other. Is a bit confusing they give them separate names as it suggests that the pre-assembled left image is somehow different to the middle semi-parallel image.

This is how I would probably do it...

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Keeps the cpu and gpu loops in series as they probably should be, given the different flow restrictions

edit: version 2 of image including a bypass valve on the gpu segment. Probably still going to be tricky getting any quick disconnects on the CPU leg of the loop, with hard line anyway, given you need some slack to be able to use them.

Or if you are sure you want to go with a parallel setup...

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edit 3: Now that I've sussed you want gpu one one side and cpu on the other, for the case you have, had another go, cpu and gpu in series again in this one. Green flow line added too. It's OK I didn't feel like doing any work this afternoon anyway. :)

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LuckyBenski said:
Those instructions are bloody atrocious :(

I feel like this is massively over complicating things and honestly can't see what the benefit is in a standard build. Going parallel requires higher flow rate in the pump and overall system. Perhaps helps lower resistance but probably requires higher pump speed at the end of the day.

But if it looks cool and scratches the tinkering itch, jump right in :D
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Oh it 100% is, its ridiculously over complicated for the sake of being able to quick disconnect things easily. The outlay to do it is also rather silly, i worked it out with all the fittings, tubing, manifold itself plus all the gubbins it comes to around £300 lol!
 
Mcnumpty2323 said:
Hey
We want to see what he can do with it lol
Don't talk him out of it :cry:
Yeah it might be overkill for such a "simple" loop
As to looks
He could spray it or vinyl it etc
To look nicer maybe
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Been persuading myself not to do it but then i keep finding bargains for watercooling stuff where people are just trying to offload it for cheap lol.
 
Bubo said:
It may help to understand the instruction image they give that the ones marked "pre-assembled" and "semi-parallel", i.e. left and middle images, are identical in function and are just mirror images of each other. Is a bit confusing they give them separate names as it suggests that the pre-assembled left image is somehow different to the middle semi-parallel image.

This is how I would probably do it...

D3Oucy5.png


Keeps the cpu and gpu loops in series as they probably should be, given the different flow restrictions

edit: version 2 of image including a bypass valve on the gpu segment. Probably still going to be tricky getting any quick disconnects on the CPU leg of the loop, with hard line anyway, given you need some slack to be able to use them.

Or if you are sure you want to go with a parallel setup...

JCsjlQZ.png


edit 3: Now that I've sussed you want gpu one one side and cpu on the other, for the case you have, had another go, cpu and gpu in series again in this one. Green flow line added too. It's OK I didn't feel like doing any work this afternoon anyway. :)

jFYkxKX.png
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This is by far the most work and understanding i've seen so far!

Not gonna lie, i quite like the parallel version. Maybe i could swap the the gpu side to the correct side?


The Seriaal version makes the most sense though and is the least complicated flow pattern.

Edit: I will be going with ZMT if i go with a manifold, there's no other way about it. Might possibly keep the inlet from pump and outlet to Rad on hardline but the rest will be ZMT.

I've just realised the Parallel one would work just fine since its sat at the front of the case, i can move the tubing any direction i want to reach the respecting components.
 
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Jay85 said:
Been persuading myself not to do it but then i keep finding bargains for watercooling stuff where people are just trying to offload it for cheap lol.
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Just sorry got no more
Quick disconnects you could have
Those were £200 or something close to it new
My memory isn't the best
But I may have sold them somewhere
In the £30--40 range possibly on mm
Also worth a look on ebay
They do come up but don't usually sell
Guy I originally got them from
He decided not to use them but was too late for return window to ocuk
So I got a real bargain as he put very low starting price
And no reserve :)
 
Mcnumpty2323 said:
Just sorry got no more
Quick disconnects you could have
Those were £200 or something close to it new
My memory isn't the best
But I may have sold them somewhere
In the £30--40 range possibly on mm
Also worth a look on ebay
They do come up but don't usually sell
Guy I originally got them from
He decided not to use them but was too late for return window to ocuk
So I got a real bargain as he put very low starting price
And no reserve :)
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Blimey! Whoever got those off you must be laughing right now. I have a few alphacool ones spare but i really don't wanna use them due to their reliability not being great.

Will keep an eye out on ebay for them then, never really see them come up on MM but then again i wasn't really looking at the time.
 
SpudMaster said:
Leave you loop as it is, your just bored and want something to waste money on :p. Personally I think nowadays people just want to make their loops more complicated for the sake of it. Distroplates may have their use in for making your tubing rubs easier but they restrict flow and just make everyones systems look the same. Manifolds are great if you use them with quick disconnects so you can remove components keep your loop running but their look pretty rubbish imo and again probably kills flow but I'm just guessing here.

For me nothing beats a nice simple loop :)
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That's 100% me right now, whenever i complete or come close to completing a build/project im always on the look out for the next thing to do :cry:.

If i can mount this properly and as close to the case as possible at the front without it looking off, i think i can pull it off and make it look good. All comes down to the 3D printed bracket really and the measurements.
 
Jay85 said:
:cry: That's 100% me right now, whenever i complete or come close to completing a build/project im always on the look out for the next thing to do :cry:.

If i can mount this properly and as close to the case as possible at the front without it looking off, i think i can pull it off and make it look good. All comes down to the 3D printed bracket really and the measurements.
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Happy to help give you
The next thing to do :cry:
Just spent the day trying to fit
A behemoth of a gpu into where it really had
No business going
It involved a very expensive crosshair viii extreme motherboard
And a hacksaw :cry:
And hacksawed it in situ with everything in there
Not sure if i was incredibly brave,stupid,lunatic or
any other applicable word lol
Now it's actually in there
You could pop along and work some wonders
With hard Tubing on my half matrix 7
Half not matrix 7 loop :cry:
And figuring out how to hide a load of
Excess wires :)
 
Mcnumpty2323 said:
Happy to help give you
The next thing to do :cry:
Just spent the day trying to fit
A behemoth of a gpu into where it really had
No business going
It involved a very expensive crosshair viii extreme motherboard
And a hacksaw :cry:
And hacksawed it in situ with everything in there
Not sure if i was incredibly brave,stupid,lunatic or
any other applicable word lol
Now it's actually in there
You could pop along and work some wonders
With hard Tubing on my half matrix 7
Half not matrix 7 loop :cry:
And figuring out how to hide a load of
Excess wires :)
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If you lived close enough yeah man, i would 100% come help you setup your watercooling for you, full hardline :cry:. Gives me something to do!

You are brave though to take a hacksaw to your rig WITH the components still inside! Thats some balls of steel :cry::cry:
 
Jay85 said:
If you lived close enough yeah man, i would 100% come help you setup your watercooling for you, full hardline :cry:. Gives me something to do!

You are brave though to take a hacksaw to your rig WITH the components still inside! Thats some balls of steel :cry::cry:
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Yeah someone has already told me
Don't do that again
You Scottish loon :cry:
 
You could always jerry rig a bunch of delrin t pieces for a fraction of the cost.
I did see some offers on a german site.for qds but I couldn't justify the cost..
 
SpudMaster said:
Not gonna lie I agree with this sentment :p Expecially if it was aluminium or steal as the dust would be hard to control and possible cause shorting issues :eek:
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Yeah couldn't be plastic could it
Not on a top end board I guess
Thick Aluminium heatsink Though it wasn't
Actually cooling anything they could
have used plastic but the board was something crazy
like £900 new
so plastic Probably was never going
to be used on it
About as thick as
A hacksaw blade is wide/deep

Used the watercoolers favourite tools
Some kitchen roll to catch the metal dust
And a lot of praying :cry:
 
Mcnumpty2323 said:
Used the watercoolers favourite tools
Some kitchen roll to catch the metal dust
And a lot of praying :cry:
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Oh well thats perfectly fine then :D :p

TBH years ago when I had a Lian Li PC7 I drilled two holes in the rear above the 120mm fan and below the PSU with all the components still inside to allow 1/2" tubing to pass though to the Thermochill PA120.2 rad I had mounted on the rear. Quick dust off and all was good :D
 
SpudMaster said:
Oh well thats perfectly fine then :D :p

TBH years ago when I had a Lian Li PC7 I drilled two holes in the rear above the 120mm fan and below the PSU with all the components still inside to allow 1/2" tubing to pass though to the Thermochill PA120.2 rad I had mounted on the rear. Quick dust off and all was good :D
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Sometimes you just gotta be brave (or stupid)
They screwed the lower part on
But the top was some sort of clip and
It went through the motherboard
Would have been a total disassemble of full
Watercooling build
Just to remove the damn thing
And cut it outside the case
Won't lie though I was ####### myself :cry:
Definitely one of the times I was calling myself
A #### for ever deciding to do full watercooling :cry:
 
Jay85 said:
Not gonna lie, i quite like the parallel version. Maybe i could swap the the gpu side to the correct side?
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If you go with the parallel version then you have to be sure your pump is set high enough to get enough flow through the cpu side, as that will most likely be the most restrictive. Also, you DO NOT need the bypass valve in the parallel version, that was actually a mistake to have in there, as if it was ever opened virtually all the flow would bypass the cpu loop and just short circuit via the bypass valve, so it would actually make things worse. The quick connects on a parallel setup would just block that side from the loop by themselves with no need to bypass anyway. Updated image below for a parallel setup/ Note, the rad output can be put any unused port on that side.

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Bubo said:
If you go with the parallel version then you have to be sure your pump is set high enough to get enough flow through the cpu side, as that will most likely be the most restrictive. Also, you DO NOT need the bypass valve in the parallel version, that was actually a mistake to have in there, as if it was ever opened virtually all the flow would bypass the cpu loop and just short circuit via the bypass valve, so it would actually make things worse. The quick connects on a parallel setup would just block that side from the loop by themselves with no need to bypass anyway. Updated image below for a parallel setup/ Note, the rad output can be put any unused port on that side.

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Brilliant, this makes a lot of sense now. I did wonder if i needed the bypass valve since like you mentioned the QD's would automatically shut off if i disconnected the component out of the loop.

If i go with the Manifold route, i will go with this layout as it also looks the cleanest too. Many thanks for your hardwork here! The diagrams really helped a lot.
 
I have also been playing about with another idea or should i say the original idea! I've created a distro layout using 2 lanes and a bridge. I've also found a company in Europe to do it, just need to price it up then i can weigh up both options.

I have a feeling it will be similarly priced with it being a custom job anyway. Ignore the 2 fittings on the gpu and cpu for now, the layout was for my old gpu 3090 with the ports sitting a lot higher. My current, the ports sit way lower at the bottom of the case.


 
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