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if it was the classic golf R £200/m lease deal though,
pity there aren't deals like that on the ID 7 - journalists allowed out on their own

 
I was next to a 2023 Golf R at the lights recently.

Surprisingly quick, pretty much kept up with my Polestar 2 to 70 mph, despite the 150 bhp deficit.

BHP per ton is pretty similar though.

Edit - Should mention these are lights at a roundabout, and the two left hand lanes then goes immediately on to a dual carriageway
 
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I was next to a 2023 Golf R at the lights recently.

Surprisingly quick, pretty much kept up with my Polestar 2 to 70 mph, despite the 150 bhp deficit.

BHP per ton is pretty similar though.

Edit - Should mention these are lights at a roundabout, and the two left hand lanes then goes immediately on to a dual carriageway

I read that and thought "The Golf only has 70bhp...? That can't be right..."

Then remembered that while I have the single motor version of the Polestar, there are several others with a LOT more power...:cry:
 
I was next to a 2023 Golf R at the lights recently.

Surprisingly quick, pretty much kept up with my Polestar 2 to 70 mph, despite the 150 bhp deficit.

BHP per ton is pretty similar though.

Edit - Should mention these are lights at a roundabout, and the two left hand lanes then goes immediately on to a dual carriageway
Prob tuned
 
I'm a complete kid at the traffic lights, no matter what I'm in, it's fun when something quick comes up expecting to demolish you.. However, I've found in the Mrs ID.3, the instant power delivery means quite often I get a bit of a jump on the other car and I've had a Golf R do this, he took until 60ish before he caught back up..

#living my life 1/4 mile at a time..
 
Exactly. They have a very narrow use band and cost more for the privilege. I would just get a diesel or a petrol and save a lot of money.

I must be the the perfect PHEV driver then. I do around 18000 miles per annum and two thirds end up being on EV only. Charge at work for free. Put a tank of fuel in every few weeks. Sometimes I have fun in sport mode. Tows great.
 
I must be the the perfect PHEV driver then. I do around 18000 miles per annum and two thirds end up being on EV only. Charge at work for free. Put a tank of fuel in every few weeks. Sometimes I have fun in sport mode. Tows great.

Genuine question - is there any reason in general use (besides suddenly wanting to drive to John O'Groats) that you couldn't use a full EV?
 
Genuine question - is there any reason in general use (besides suddenly wanting to drive to John O'Groats) that you couldn't use a full EV?

I'd imagine it's the fact he tows a trailer. What benefit would full electric give him? He's already able to use electric for almost all his driving but also has a 3 litre six cylinder petrol engine for those times he can't.

It sounds ideal.
 
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I'd imagine it's the fact he tows a trailer. What benefit would full electric give him? He's already able to use electric for almost all his driving but also has a 3 litre six cylinder petrol engine for those times he can't.

It sounds absolutely ideal.

That'll be it - electric is horrific for towing...

I'm just intrigued - when I wrote my diesel E class off in July I was trying to decide which direction to go and eventually settled on going balls deep electric. In my use cases I could just about make it work, but the hybrid (self charging or plug-in) would have just ended up being the worst of both worlds with no discernible advantage.

My thinking here was that if he runs on electric pretty much all the time, was there any need to have the added expense and complication of the petrol engine too, as from what he described his running costs would be essentially nil. The towing side of things provides the answer, and that is probably the ideal scenario for the PHEV.
 
My thinking here was that if he runs on electric pretty much all the time

Which he doesn't - he tells us exactly how many miles a year he covers using the petrol engine in his post.

He is the sort of user who would probably have picked a pure petrol car over a pure electric car because in the real world, you can't just stop doing 20% of your driving just because 'well, most of my driving would be ok'. A plug in hybrid means he is able to cover 70% of his miles on electric, whereas if the choice was either electric or petrol he'd have gone petrol and would be covering 0% of his miles on electric.
 
Which he doesn't - he tells us exactly how many miles a year he covers using the petrol engine in his post.

He is the sort of user who would probably have picked a pure petrol car over a pure electric car because in the real world, you can't just stop doing 20% of your driving just because 'well, most of my driving would be ok'. A plug in hybrid means he is able to cover 70% of his miles on electric, whereas if the choice was either electric or petrol he'd have gone petrol and would be covering 0% of his miles on electric.

But PHEV's usually have quite a small range - if the mileage he does on petrol is simply because the battery has run out and he can't get all the way to work on it then that nulls that argument. If, for instance, he had a larger battery which he could do the work commute with (there and back, charge it at work for free) then the only time he'd need the petrol would be for the towing aspect - that was my point.
 
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