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The £500 go to card?

fleapea

fleapea

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Hey guys.
Whats the go to £500 card?
From what i can gather its simply the RX6800/XT or the 7800XT.
Benefits for the 7800 are a minimal FPS boost but its "newer" and will hold re sale value better over the next 12 months.
I'm about to pull the trigger on a 6800 but just making sure its the right choice, i scratch my head a little thinking the 6800 is 3 years old but it appears to be the one to get.
thanks
 
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fleapea said:
Hey guys.
Whats the go to £500 card?
From what i can gather its simply the RX6800/XT or the 7800XT.
Benefits for the 7800 are a minimal FPS boost but its "newer" and will hold re sale value better over the next 12 months.
I'm about to pull the trigger on a 6800 but just making sure its the right choice, i scratch my head a little thinking the 6800 is 3 years old but it appears to be the one to get.
thanks
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I would get the 7800XT over a 6800XT.
 
Hey folks! Came here to ask the exact same question with one slight variant (I don't mind nvidia or amd). My PC has an old i7 6850, and has pci express 3, would a 7800 perform a lot worse than on a pci express 4 mobo?
I've been in doubt about building a new PC as this one still works like a charm, and I don't do as much gaming as I used to.
 
augusto said:
Hey folks! Came here to ask the exact same question with one slight variant (I don't mind nvidia or amd). My PC has an old i7 6850, and has pci express 3, would a 7800 perform a lot worse than on a pci express 4 mobo?
I've been in doubt about building a new PC as this one still works like a charm, and I don't do as much gaming as I used to.
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I ran my 6900XT in a gen 3 slot until upgrading to AM5, did not notice any difference. Probably be less than 3% difference for most things.
 
augusto said:
would a 7800 perform a lot worse than on a pci express 4 mobo?
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Nope.

fleapea said:
I'm about to pull the trigger on a 6800 but just making sure its the right choice, i scratch my head a little thinking the 6800 is 3 years old but it appears to be the one to get.
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6800 (if you mean 6800 non-XT rather than 6800 XT) is a decent card, but just to be clear: it is not £500 (they're around £400).
 
fleapea said:
Hey guys.
Whats the go to £500 card?
From what i can gather its simply the RX6800/XT or the 7800XT.
Benefits for the 7800 are a minimal FPS boost but its "newer" and will hold re sale value better over the next 12 months.
I'm about to pull the trigger on a 6800 but just making sure its the right choice, i scratch my head a little thinking the 6800 is 3 years old but it appears to be the one to get.
thanks
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Do you only play a handful of games, if so, look at benchmarks for those particular games as they might peform better on AMD compared to Nvidia or vice versa.

For £500 its the 7800XT vs 4070, both are better at different things, in different games.

Generally Nvidia cards hod their value slightly better than AMD cards if you are concerned about re-sale value.
 
Not the OP, but that's interesting! I would like to dip my hands in learning about LLMs/AI next year, and I know that nvidia dominates this space. The problem with the 4070 is the 12gb, I wish there was a 16gb model... decision, decision, decision :(.

Thanks for the help folks!
 
The AMD cards do seem to perform relatively better than the Nvidia cards with older CPUs,and the extra VRAM will help if you keep a graphics card for a very long time.

OTH,Nvidia does better with RT,and is generally better WRT to power consumption this generation.

augusto said:
Not the OP, but that's interesting! I would like to dip my hands in learning about LLMs/AI next year, and I know that nvidia dominates this space. The problem with the 4070 is the 12gb, I wish there was a 16gb model... decision, decision, decision :(.

Thanks for the help folks!
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The Super releases are out next year.
 
For me, a 7800xt at about 475 is a good buy at the moment.

If you value RT or only play slower single player games, NV are your best bet.

The 7800xt could become a poor buy in 2 or 3 months when NV release the super variants, but who knows what their pricing will be...
 
augusto said:
Not the OP, but that's interesting! I would like to dip my hands in learning about LLMs/AI next year, and I know that nvidia dominates this space. The problem with the 4070 is the 12gb, I wish there was a 16gb model... decision, decision, decision :(.

Thanks for the help folks!
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Honestly, if you want to do AI work, I'd pay for cloud based instances. Local training is so just so slow, and there are some lovely tools (weights and biases, etc etc) that integrate all the compute you could want.
 
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augusto said:
Not the OP, but that's interesting! I would like to dip my hands in learning about LLMs/AI next year, and I know that nvidia dominates this space. The problem with the 4070 is the 12gb, I wish there was a 16gb model... decision, decision, decision :(.

Thanks for the help folks!
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Which software specifically? With Stable Diffusion, with the latest updates Arc does pretty darn well for the price, but in THG's benchmarks the 4070 is much faster than everything else, including the 4060 Ti 16GB and 7800 XT.
 
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0h_no_not_again said:
For me, a 7800xt at about 475 is a good buy at the moment.

If you value RT or only play slower single player games, NV are your best bet.

The 7800xt could become a poor buy in 2 or 3 months when NV release the super variants, but who knows what their pricing will be...
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I know what their pricing will be.
 
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Tetras said:
Nope.


6800 (if you mean 6800 non-XT rather than 6800 XT) is a decent card, but just to be clear: it is not £500 (they're around £400).
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Yes brother - the none XT variant of the 6800 I can get brand new for £375 - 2nd hand they should be around £300-320 - if you over clock it you get base 6800XT speeds.
The thing is the 2nd hand market is a little stupid - you can find a base price with a simple google surface search, then you go on ebay for 2nd hand cards and they are literally selling for brand new prices. lmao
Only trouble with second hand is the paper work trail isnt as appealing in resale - I kind of keep a card for 6 to 12 months then just add £300 to keep my cycle going. Buying 2nd hand if i can i try and make sure its just under 12 months old.
Crickey i looked yesterday and my ryzen 5 3600 is selling for £85 second hand hahaha - so the processor is due an upgrade too, but thik selling a 3600 CPU will take a while to shift unless you just bottom out on the price and let it go for £70.
Im trying to shift my RX6600 now - but thats gotta sell soon koz its about to become unappealing and drop below £130-150 on resale, i waited 6 motnhs too long to sell it, im down £100 on it now.
The 2nd hand re sale shuffle as i call it has to stay on top within a 12 month window 8-10 months been ideal.

I was trying to sell a GTX1650 - prices is down to £80 already hahaha just 11 months ago it would have sold for 100-130. Some of them are going for £75-65 I dont understand why people sit on cards on ebay holding out for higher amounts when a simple ebay search obliterates your price.
 
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0h_no_not_again said:
For me, a 7800xt at about 475 is a good buy at the moment.

If you value RT or only play slower single player games, NV are your best bet.

The 7800xt could become a poor buy in 2 or 3 months when NV release the super variants, but who knows what their pricing will be...
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Ya 7800 has the newer release date going for it - i only play on 1080p and occasioanlly use ray tracing so RT isnt that big of a deal to me. But NVDIA does handle the RT much better.
 
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