Mortgage Rate Rises

All a guessing game but I do think we will follow closely with the US, this is their prediction

2024 - 4.6%
2025 - 3.6%
2026 - 2.9%

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Anything less than 3% is extremely optimistic even for us market
 
3 years left on my current deal @1.19%.

25 years left on the mortgage but if all goes well should be done in 5.

yep we took 5 years as it means our final amount is low - it did mean we paid for a chunk between the two mortgages. We can pay off in 3 but we don’t know the job market situation hence going 5.
 
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These predictions will change in seconds with some new data or something, its happened so much recently you can't really trust them. Certainly don't go making house buying decisions based on them.
 
I'd say it's optimistic but not extremely.

Inflation is nearly under 2pc there. If it stays there no reason it can't come down fairly sharp.

I think that 3%+ rates are here to stay for at least the next 4 years. They want to tar as many people as possible, the people who renewled their mortage just before the rates went up would have lucked out if the rates are dropped before then.

lower than 3% is not a common thing, it was only dropped that low to make up for the housing crash in 2008 and they never took them back up.

I'm hoping for a rate around 3.2% when I have to remortage in 4 years time and I'm going to attempt to pay it all off in 5 years.
 
I think that 3%+ rates are here to stay for at least the next 4 years. They want to tar as many people as possible, the people who renewled their mortage just before the rates went up would have lucked out if the rates are dropped before then.

lower than 3% is not a common thing, it was only dropped that low to make up for the housing crash in 2008 and they never took them back up.

I'm hoping for a rate around 3.2% when I have to remortage in 4 years time and I'm going to attempt to pay it all off in 5 years.
Well I hope it's not 3.3%, you'd be screwed then...
 
2 year mortgage swaps and gilts have fallen a lot just in the past week. Swaps are around 4.25-4.3 and gilts closer to 4. Mortgages dropping below 4% is a very reasonable possibility this year.
 
I know it's not a particularly relevant benchmark given what it preceded but there's no law stating mortgages are base rate PLUS..

In the 00s it was totally normally for them to be advertised as base rate MINUS.

I can see us getting back to something a bit like that as they start coming down, nothing like the 00s but entirely possible as competition hots up.
 
Anybodies guess to where the rate will settle but just remember 0% period should not be considered the historic norm so I wouldn't be expecting old interest rates to resurface. After briefly being on variables at 8% and now 7% I'm primed to be happy with a low 4 or delighted with a mid 3 % rate
 
I know it's not a particularly relevant benchmark given what it preceded but there's no law stating mortgages are base rate PLUS..

In the 00s it was totally normally for them to be advertised as base rate MINUS.

I can see us getting back to something a bit like that as they start coming down, nothing like the 00s but entirely possible as competition hots up.

Thats not really true unfortunately.

The only real product that was "base rate -" were trackers.
The majority were moving back to repayment at that point, but there were still some endowment backed and interest only was becoming the next best thing. None of these were "base rate -" products.
Most big businesses were linking LIBOR and this gave the impression interest rates were often below base rate, but they were simply unlinked.

Edit, and the point of the base rate is its supposed to set the minimum level, outside specials. If everyone started to ignore the base rate then you would expect some action from the regulators and/or government. Its there for a reason!
 
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There is plenty of cheaper (or even just cheap) housing in Australia outside of the big cities but outside of the big cities is not where people want to live.

But to answer your a question, America is the other option but again you’ll not be near any big cities, you’ll be out in the boonies.
 
I knew NZ was an expensive place to live (in certain areas at least), but I didn't realise Australia was suffering from crazy house prices too:
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-66425947

Which 'nice' countries have sensibly priced housing these days?

The issue is the same all over - people want/need to live in the city in order to get to work, however there is not enough housing being built to satisfy the demand to keep prices low.

It's the exact same issue that's impacting London
 

As per historic rates in the uk... this page since 1975... sub 3% rates is not the norm only been a thing since the housing market crash of 2008.
 

As per historic rates in the uk... this page since 1975... sub 3% rates is not the norm only been a thing since the housing market crash of 2008.
This is exactly the data that made me comfortable with locking in to long fixed rates.
 

As per historic rates in the uk... this page since 1975... sub 3% rates is not the norm only been a thing since the housing market crash of 2008.
You are correct - the UK rates should be in the 4%-6% range when our economy is healthy.

The current problem isn't the rate, it's the speed of the fact that we went from 10 years of near zero rates, to over 5% without the rest of the economy (eg. wages) having time to adjust.
 
You are correct - the UK rates should be in the 4%-6% range when our economy is healthy.

The current problem isn't the rate, it's the speed of the fact that we went from 10 years of near zero rates, to over 5% without the rest of the economy (eg. wages) having time to adjust.
People will slowly adjust to the higher rates and not over reach when it comes to buying houses, this should slow down the appreciation rate of house prices.

Mine has dropped over in the last year, when it was last appraised for a mortage renewl, not by much but it's likely been adjusted due to the higher mortage rates.
 
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