Ukraine Invasion - Please do not post videos showing attacks/similar

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Putin's behaviour is similar to that of Adolf Hitler in the 1930s. When we appeased Hitler and failed to deal with him during that period we allowed the full horror of World War 2 to materialise. If we had removed Hitler early on when he first broke the Treaty of Versailles then the Nazi threat could have been eliminated with far less bloodshed.
It's easy to say that in hindsight, the problem is due to economics/etc we weren't in any position to move against Hitler prior to WW2 (hell we weren't even in a good position then hence Dunkirk). Hence why we appeased him to buy time to prepare for the inevitable war (same reason Stalin agreed to split Poland with him).


It's only really 365,000 dead in a year, Russia has millions of men to throw at it
When describing 365,000 dead the word "only" may be relative to their population, however 365,000 is pretty much the size of the entire Russian army (not including officers and cadets) prior to the invasion.

It's one thing to say that they have more men they can send, but handing an AK to a greengrocer and a concert bassist then sending them to replace a pair of marines who were battle hardened in Chechnya and Syria and had years of experience in infantry tactics is not a like for like replacement. Russia has long since passed the point where they have lose so many soldiers that it's hampering their performance in a way not fixable with numbers, even their air force is feeling the burn as regardless of how many aircraft they have lost they are now short on experienced pilots to put in them.
 
Alaska is occupied territory according to the Russians
Technically speaking the sale was illegal, that's why the USA had to pay billions in renumerations to the native people because Russia had no right to sell it to the USA in the first place. That doesn't really help Vlad though :p

On a comical note, it's worth remembering that the whole reason Russia offloaded Alaska to the USA in the first place was because back then they were besties and both mistrusting of Britain (who owned Canada at the time) lol.
 
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To be fair, at the moment, literally nobody else is saying they will stop this war so I’ll happily let Trump have a go. At least he wants it stopped - if stopping it halts further escalation and war then frankly I want it to stop too. I don’t want to live in a world like this forever and I certainly don’t want my children becoming men in such a world either. I want them to have jobs, a wife, children, holidays, food, love and freedom. If Trump can knock heads together to make it happen then fine. I’ll take any chance no matter how remote it may seem
Trumps way is to tell Zelenski to just let Putin keep what hes stolen and give him time to rebuild his military and come back for the rest.

Zelenski knows this and has been trolling trump for weeks now to hurry up and end the war like he said he would, or at least tell him how hes going to do it.

He has reached out to trump to visit Ukraine but Trumps been ignoring him.

Zelenski isn't daft he knows exactly whos side Trump is on, Trumps bluff has well and truly been called
 
Trumps way is to tell Zelenski to just let Putin keep what hes stolen and give him time to rebuild his military and come back for the rest.

Zelenski knows this and has been trolling trump for weeks now to hurry up and end the war like he said he would, or at least tell him how hes going to do it.

He has reached out to trump to visit Ukraine but Trumps been ignoring him.

Zelenski isn't daft he knows exactly whos side Trump is on, Trumps bluff has well and truly been called
Zelenskyy
 
Mobilising for war damages economies, that much is well known, and what is also known is that you cannot mobilise your full population. You always need a certain number of people working productive private jobs so they can pay taxes, and taxes pay for the war. The maximum number of conscripts you can have is proportional to still having enough workers paying taxes at a level where those taxes cover all costs of the war, all costs of running the government and public services and all costs of feeding the population. If incoming tax can no longer pay for all these items then the economy collapses and the people revolt and you have a revolution

In total war taxes go out the window - the government/military requisitions what it needs.
 
Trumps way is to tell Zelenski to just let Putin keep what hes stolen and give him time to rebuild his military and come back for the rest.
I think his actual plan will be something like conference call Zelenskyy and Putin and explain that the war is ending now and that they must both accept it. If Zelenskyy refuses to accept the USA will cut all support and he will lose, if Vlad refuses to accept it he will drastically increase support to Zelensky and kick Vlad back to his pre-2022 borders.

Hell it depends on how hard he wants to look, he may even force Vlad back to his pre-2014 borders just to show what a super strong man he is by crushing the worlds biggest strongest man.

Of course it all depends on Trump actually getting re-elected and being able to implement his genius master plan.

One thing that worries me is he's nuts enough to take a "if you can't agree who gets Crimea I'll nuke it then no one can have it!" approach >.>
 
To be fair, at the moment, literally nobody else is saying they will stop this war so I’ll happily let Trump have a go. At least he wants it stopped - if stopping it halts further escalation and war then frankly I want it to stop too. I don’t want to live in a world like this forever and I certainly don’t want my children becoming men in such a world either. I want them to have jobs, a wife, children, holidays, food, love and freedom. If Trump can knock heads together to make it happen then fine. I’ll take any chance no matter how remote it may seem

Naive post of the day goes to. ^^
 
I think his actual plan will be something like conference call Zelenskyy and Putin and explain that the war is ending now and that they must both accept it. If Zelenskyy refuses to accept the USA will cut all support and he will lose, if Vlad refuses to accept it he will drastically increase support to Zelensky and kick Vlad back to his pre-2022 borders.

Hell it depends on how hard he wants to look, he may even force Vlad back to his pre-2014 borders just to show what a super strong man he is by crushing the worlds biggest strongest man.

Of course it all depends on Trump actually getting re-elected and being able to implement his genius master plan.

One thing that worries me is he's nuts enough to take a "if you can't agree who gets Crimea I'll nuke it then no one can have it!" approach >.>

It would need boots on the ground to get it done in a time frame that Trump could sell and he can't sell that to MAGA full stop.
 
It's one thing to say that they have more men they can send, but handing an AK to a greengrocer and a concert bassist then sending them to replace a pair of marines who were battle hardened in Chechnya and Syria and had years of experience in infantry tactics is not a like for like replacement. Russia has long since passed the point where they have lose so many soldiers that it's hampering their performance in a way not fixable with numbers, even their air force is feeling the burn as regardless of how many aircraft they have lost they are now short on experienced pilots to put in them.
Yup

You can replace equipment quite quickly, you can replace recruits (up to a point) pretty quickly, but replacing trained, and more importantly experienced personal is very hard and once you lose a certain number in a unit, that unit is going to take years to recover to the point it's combat effective again, if it ever does.
It's one of the many reasons a professional army like the US or UK has is going to tend to be better on many levels than a conscript army, the western "professional" armies tend to have a high level of experience at even squad level, and are specifically set up in such a way with the likes of NCO's

Even more so for pilots.

It's one of the reasons professional armed forces will spend so much on training people skills to cope with things like combat injuries (far better to save an experienced person than replace them), and why IIRC with pilots the rule is pretty much eject if you feel you need to and don't worry about being second guessed, you can replace even an F35* much easier (if not always cheaper) than you can replace a pilot who has the training and experience to fly it.

IIRC Russia has reportedly even thrown a lot of it's trainers into Ukraine, with the result they don't necessarily even have enough experienced personnel to effectively train the new waves of conscripts, not that they seem to be bothering to do much training.


*Which specifically has an automatic eject that will trigger without pilot input if it thinks it's going out of control.
 
Russia has been at war with Ukraine since 2014. Trump was president from 2017.

But now he's going to stop the war? When he couldn't stop it when he was president? Genius logic!
 
Im to stupid to understand but why is no one stopping the war.....is it because ukraine has no exports we need? as we went in and ruined loads of other countries.
 
Im to stupid to understand but why is no one stopping the war.....is it because ukraine has no exports we need? as we went in and ruined loads of other countries.

This is a war of aggression where Russia has invaded a neighbouring country, which is attempting to defend itself.

Are you asking why the US/other NATO forces have not gone into Ukraine and engaged directly with Russia, thus starting Word War III?
 
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A lot of videos popping up of Russian vehicles getting hit by suicide drones at the moment. Drone operators flying them in the back doors of BMPs and into trenches with predictable results.

The ones armed with RPG warheads are taking out tanks without much issue as well as it looks like the operators know exactly where to hit now.

The life of a Russian soldier must be quite miserable and in many cases short.
 
I think his actual plan will be something like conference call Zelenskyy and Putin and explain that the war is ending now and that they must both accept it. If Zelenskyy refuses to accept the USA will cut all support and he will lose, if Vlad refuses to accept it he will drastically increase support to Zelensky and kick Vlad back to his pre-2022 borders.

Neither side is accepting that deal.

Then what?
 
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A lot of videos popping up of Russian vehicles getting hit by suicide drones at the moment. Drone operators flying them in the back doors of BMPs and into trenches with predictable results.

The ones armed with RPG warheads are taking out tanks without much issue as well as it looks like the operators know exactly where to hit now.

The life of a Russian soldier must be quite miserable and in many cases short.

Quite scary to think where we'll be in a few years where there's a swarm of the things :o
 
Quite scary to think where we'll be in a few years where there's a swarm of the things :o
Not really, the west is already working on anti drone weapons and tactics. USA already have a drone school.

The reason why the Russians are struggling is because their tanks are oversold rubbish the new t90 is a t72 hull with a t80 turret…

The bmps have their fuel tanks in the back doors,

All of these design flaws the west’s equipment doesn’t share.

The west practices combined arms, Russia practice Zerg attacks
 
Not really, the west is already working on anti drone weapons and tactics. USA already have a drone school.

The reason why the Russians are struggling is because their tanks are oversold rubbish the new t90 is a t72 hull with a t80 turret…

The bmps have their fuel tanks in the back doors,

All of these design flaws the west’s equipment doesn’t share.

The west practices combined arms, Russia practice Zerg attacks

Russian military thinking seems to largely be centred around the extremes of smaller scale counter-insurgency and large scale all out war with the West, they seem to have very little institutional think, let alone experience or training for something like Ukraine. Even now a favourite tactic is so called recon by combat where the theory is to use a small force to reveal enemy positions for mass artillery, while their mass artillery advantage isn't what it was and Ukraine long ago learnt to use a more surgical response.
 
It's easy to say that in hindsight, the problem is due to economics/etc we weren't in any position to move against Hitler prior to WW2 (hell we weren't even in a good position then hence Dunkirk). Hence why we appeased him to buy time to prepare for the inevitable war (same reason Stalin agreed to split Poland with him).

Not quite correct. The Germans did begin covertly rearming after 1918, in violation of the Treaty of Versailles. However, during the period of the Weimar Republic the German economy was very weak (hyperinflation and political instability) so they were limited in how rapidly they could rearm. When Hitler came to power in 1933 he openly and massively expanded German rearmament. In the same year, Hitler withdrew Germany from the League of Nations and the World Disarmament Conference making his intentions clear. Frankly, the fact that he had explicitly stated the years by which he intended to have conquered each European country in Mein Kampf (published in 1925) should have made his removal ASAP a priority anyway.

Stalin had initially tried to make a military alliance with the UK/France with a view to fighting Nazi Germany alongside us, but he was rebuffed. He believed (probably correctly) that our policy was to encourage Nazi aggression in Eastern Europe which would result in Germany and the USSR going to war and destroying each other, so he negotiated the Molotov-Ribbentrop non-aggression pact with Hitler.

With the help of the USSR the Western WW1 allies could have dealt with Hitler when he came to power in 1933. If our ruling classes had not ignored the threat from Germany (due to their greater fear of Soviet Communism) and failed to rearm all the way through the 1920s, when our economies were strong, then they could have finished off the Nazis without Stalin's help. Of course, after wiping out the Nazis we would have had to worry about Soviet aggression against Western Europe (since they would not have sustained such devastating losses during WW2).

The lesson of World War 2 is do not ignore an emerging threat or hope that you can spin your enemies off against each other. I hope we will not make the same mistake with Putin. While Putin's forces are tied up fighting the Ukrainians (who deserve our unwavering support) we should be rearming and deploying conventional forces along with tactical nuclear weapons to the Eastern European NATO member states. If Russia sees that NATO has powerful forces along their European border they will be deterred from attacking vulnerable NATO members. However, if we repeat the defence policy blunders of the 1920s and 30s (and Trump simultaneously removes US support from Eastern European NATO members) then we should expect serious Russian aggression.
 
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