Much needed upgrade advice required! 1440p Gaming

[BenJRL]

Hi All,

I am looking for a bit of advice on upgrading, here is what I am working with currently:

I have 2 monitors both 1440p, 1 is 144hz.

Powercolor Radeon RX 5700 XT
AMD Ryzen 5 3600
24 gb DDR4 RAM (One stick died)
MSI B450 GAMING PRO CARBON Motherboard
500gb m.2
2x 500gb SSDs
1TB HDD
850w Superflower Gold (I think!)

I am wondering if its worth a complete overhaul, or are there bits I can just swap out?

Any help would be greatly appreciated.

 

[Tetras]

I am looking for a bit of advice on upgrading, here is what I am working with currently:

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I am wondering if its worth a complete overhaul, or are there bits I can just swap out?

What are you upgrading for? If games, which games?

 

[Gray2233]

Assuming gaming?

My basket at OcUK:

• 1 x Team Group Vulcan Z T-Force 32GB (2x16GB) DDR4 PC4-25600C16 3200MHz Dual Channel Kit - Grey (SKU: MY-0AJ-TG) = £59.99
• 1 x AMD Ryzen 7 5700X3D Eight Core 4.1GHz (Socket AM4) Processor - Retail (SKU: PRO-AMD-01799) = £220.99
• 1 x Sapphire Radeon RX 7900 GRE Gaming 16GB GDDR6 PCI-Express Graphics Card (SKU: GRA-SPR-01588) = £549.95

Total: £838.92 (includes delivery: £7.99)​

It does depend on what you play and want to spend, but the above is what I'd be looking at if I was upgrading your rig for gaming purposes.

Scrap the stick of memory you have, you'll lose some performance with single channel.

 

[BenJRL]

What are you upgrading for? If games, which games?

I'm looking to improve it for quite a few games most recently:

Hell Let Loose
Squad
EFT
Gray Zone
Rust

A mix of solid FPS to use my monitor better and good settings for graphics.

Games I'll pick up in the when released:

Star Wars Outlaws
GTA6

Thanks

 

[Tetras]

Scrap the stick of memory you have, you'll lose some performance with single channel.

Pretty sure you can't get 1 stick of 24GB DDR4, it must be 3x8.

I'm looking to improve it for quite a few games most recently:

I'm not very familiar with those games, so I don't know if you're likely to be GPU or CPU-bound, have you monitored your usage?

The 7900 GRE suggested above is a good upgrade for GPU (is around twice the speed of what you have), or something like a 4070 Super if you prefer nvidia..

 

[Gray2233]

Pretty sure you can't get 1 stick of 24GB DDR4, it must be 3x8.

It's probably some weird combination, 3x8 or 16+8 etc. Either way I'd just get rid and pop in a 2x16 set rather than deal with it. (Edit: Ah, a stick died so yeah, must have been 4x8 initially!)

As for those games, in the case of Rust at least (open world survival type game), it very much benefits from 3D cache, so a 5700X3D would be a no brainer.

 

[BenJRL]

It's probably some weird combination, 3x8 or 16+8 etc. Either way I'd just get rid and pop in a 2x16 set rather than deal with it. (Edit: Ah, a stick died so yeah, must have been 4x8 initially!)

Exactly that it was 4 x 8s!

I'm not very familiar with those games, so I don't know if you're likely to be GPU or CPU-bound, have you monitored your usage?

The 7900 GRE suggested above is a good upgrade for GPU (is around twice the speed of what you have), or something like a 4070 Super if you prefer nvidia..

I haven't, most games just seem very choppy for me at the moment even knocking them down to medium or low. It is a long time since I made any upgrades so I think it could be time!

 

[Tetras]

I haven't, most games just seem very choppy for me at the moment even knocking them down to medium or low. It is a long time since I made any upgrades so I think it could be time!

That normally suggests either you're way optimistic with what you're asking your GPU to do, or that your CPU is the bottleneck, since you're giving your graphics card less to do, but it doesn't help because the CPU is the problem.

 

[Wing-Man]

I haven't, most games just seem very choppy for me at the moment even knocking them down to medium or low. It is a long time since I made any upgrades so I think it could be time!

have 2 monitors both 1440p, 1 is 144hz.

Powercolor Radeon RX 5700 XT

do you try to game on 2 screen's ar the same time? i sold my 5700 xt about 12 months ago and it was a good mid setting 1080 / 1440p GPU back then.
but if you trying to drive 2 x 1440p in games you have no chance.

 

[Wing-Man]

Assuming gaming?

My basket at OcUK:

• 1 x Team Group Vulcan Z T-Force 32GB (2x16GB) DDR4 PC4-25600C16 3200MHz Dual Channel Kit - Grey (SKU: MY-0AJ-TG) = £59.99
• 1 x AMD Ryzen 7 5700X3D Eight Core 4.1GHz (Socket AM4) Processor - Retail (SKU: PRO-AMD-01799) = £220.99
• 1 x Sapphire Radeon RX 7900 GRE Gaming 16GB GDDR6 PCI-Express Graphics Card (SKU: GRA-SPR-01588) = £549.95

Total: £838.92 (includes delivery: £7.99)​

It does depend on what you play and want to spend, but the above is what I'd be looking at if I was upgrading your rig for gaming purposes.

Scrap the stick of memory you have, you'll lose some performance with single channel.

this is a very good option. depending on the bodget when playing at 1440 you could do ram and GPU now and add a CPU latter

at 1080p your CPU is 100% the problem
at 1440p your GPU is 75% the problem and 25% the slower CPU

I would dump one of the screen unless you use them for work. and even then one ultra wide would be better, if you try to game on 2 stop now

 

[BenJRL]

Cheers guys! Returning to this post after a weekend away touching grass.

That normally suggests either you're way optimistic with what you're asking your GPU to do, or that your CPU is the bottleneck, since you're giving your graphics card less to do, but it doesn't help because the CPU is the problem.

Yeah I am probably a bit overzealous with my PC hence the request for a bit of help or a healthy dose of reality!

I would dump one of the screen unless you use them for work. and even then one ultra wide would be better, if you try to game on 2 stop now

I do game with 2 screens. 1 will have the game on and the other will be essentially idle.

 

[tamzzy]

I do game with 2 screens. 1 will have the game on and the other will be essentially idle.

that's not gaming on two screens lol. that is gaming on a single screen but having a dual screen setup.
most of us will have dual screen setups...and as yourself, one will be idle whilst gaming

 

[BenJRL]

that's not gaming on two screens lol. that is gaming on a single screen but having a dual screen setup.
most of us will have dual screen setups...and as yourself, one will be idle whilst gaming

Cheers, that's why I said 'WITH' and not 'ON'. I did think my response was specific enough. I apologise if you got the wrong end of the stick.

 

[Tetras]

Yeah I am probably a bit overzealous with my PC hence the request for a bit of help or a healthy dose of reality!

This is not @ your chosen resolution, but I found it quite interesting RE: CPU versus GPU bottlenecks and the benefit of X3D's cache. It uses your 3600 for one of the two CPUs.

CPUs Matter for 4K Gaming, More Than You Might Think!

See MSI QD-OLED Gaming Monitors: https://msi.gm/GetQDOLEDGo QD OLED Global: https://msi.gm/GoOLEDGlobalGo QD OLED Australians: https://msi.gm/GoOLEDSupport u...

www.youtube.com

 

[BenJRL]

This is not @ your chosen resolution, but I found it quite interesting RE: CPU versus GPU bottlenecks and the benefit of X3D's cache. It uses your 3600 for one of the two CPUs.

CPUs Matter for 4K Gaming, More Than You Might Think!

See MSI QD-OLED Gaming Monitors: https://msi.gm/GetQDOLEDGo QD OLED Global: https://msi.gm/GoOLEDGlobalGo QD OLED Australians: https://msi.gm/GoOLEDSupport u...

www.youtube.com

Thanks! That really did help with perspective. Definitely an interesting watch.