Shooting of the Slovakian PM

Initially thought could Putin be behind this, then read he's an ally but a little part of me thought 'Putin could still be behind it'. Poor guy.
 
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This guy was some pro-Russian idiot, can't say I feel sorry for him.

Charming. Even forgetting the seriousness of an attack on a politician he's still a human being...

Initially thought could Putin be behind this, then read he's an ally but a little part of me thought 'Putin could still be behind it'. Poor guy.

Who says propaganda doesn't work eh!
 
shot 5 times but he is expected to survive and surgery went well apparently

maybe it was a .22 LR pistol common in shooting clubs, very small little bullets that do less damage
 
Charming. Even forgetting the seriousness of an attack on a politician he's still a human being...

And? It's so disingenuous to try this sort of emotionally laden claptrap. So was the lad doing the burglary who got shot and killed the other day, didn't stop lots of people posting about being pleased about the result. I'll go and check on your moral grandstanding about him still being a human being in that thread...whereas all dowie did was express an indifference to this person.

Who says propaganda doesn't work eh!

Nobody.
 
He is just as likely to have done it just to stir things up more. Putin is worse than Hitler was in some ways and the west is not doing nearly enough to counter him right now. Same errors being repeated as the leadup to ww1 and 2.
 
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It would be a bit odd to try and assassinate someone on your side, who is inside the political system of your 'enemy' and working within it to hamper their opposition to you.
 
It would be a bit odd to try and assassinate someone on your side, who is inside the political system of your 'enemy' and working within it to hamper their opposition to you.

Putin murders his friends and colleagues. Even family members and their friends and families.
 
Putin murders his friends and colleagues. Even family members and their friends and families.

maybe so, but I'd expect he'd have his own justification (ie: feeling his position was being threatened) no matter how warped rather than just waking up one day and feeling like whacking one of your mates.

Was there anything going on with Fico that would have caused Putin any jitters? With his trying to block Ukrainian aid, sounds like he was helping old Vlad out.
 
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maybe so, but I'd expect he'd have his own justification (ie: feeling his position was being threatened) no matter how warped.

Was there anything going on with Fico that would have caused Putin any jitters? With his trying to block Ukrainian aid, sounds like he was helping old Vlad out.

Who knows, Putin is a head case with an inferiority complex. Maybe paranoia set in.
 
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shot 5 times but he is expected to survive and surgery went well apparently

maybe it was a .22 LR pistol common in shooting clubs, very small little bullets that do less damage
Very small bullets going slowly do less damage. Very small bullets going much faster do a lot of damage. See the M16 rifle story for details.

Round nose bullets with full copper/alloy jackets don’t tend to expand nor fragment in pistol calibres and the also don’t cause large temporary cavities in soft tissues due to their lower velocities.

If none of the bullets hit something vital and there was medical attention on scene quickly, surviving 5 gunshot wounds is more common than you’d expect.
 
maybe so, but I'd expect he'd have his own justification (ie: feeling his position was being threatened) no matter how warped rather than just waking up one day and feeling like whacking one of your mates.

Was there anything going on with Fico that would have caused Putin any jitters? With his trying to block Ukrainian aid, sounds like he was helping old Vlad out.

It could have been Fico was simply no longer useful to Putin. Slovakia was a potential route for Putin’s expansion of territory.
 
Charming. Even forgetting the seriousness of an attack on a politician he's still a human being...



Who says propaganda doesn't work eh!
Hitler was a human being, if someone had shot him years before the world would have been a better place.
 
It could have been Fico was simply no longer useful to Putin. Slovakia was a potential route for Putin’s expansion of territory.
Do they not teach history in Slovakian schools?

One would think that the Soviet invasion of the then Czechoslovakia in 1968 to suppress their reform movement might lead Slovaks not to trust a Russian leader who fondly remembers the Soviet Union.
 
It would be a bit odd to try and assassinate someone on your side, who is inside the political system of your 'enemy' and working within it to hamper their opposition to you.
Not if you want to make them a martyr (although I still think it is a bit of a stretch to think Putin was involved). This sort of political violence often backfires and the victim's politics become stronger.
 
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Not if you want to make them a martyr (although I still think it is a bit of a stretch to think Putin was involved). This sort of political violence often backfires and the victim's politics becomes stronger.

The world has gone mad since Covid. What I would say though is Putin is getting rather nervous and people are distancing from him.
 
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