Advice on this prebuild from OCUK

dunn2010

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Hi All,

My sister is looking to buy the below rig for her kids,

OcUK Gaming Karambit - Intel Core i5 14600KF GeForce RTX 4060 Ti Gaming PC | OcUK

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www.overclockers.co.uk www.overclockers.co.uk

Above is the link to the pc they are looking at, a couple questions i have around it is, for the extra money is it worth upgrading the gfx card to the 16gb version for the extra £45, or is it better to just upgrade straight to the 4070 super for £175

they are looking at getting a 34" widescreen monitor so most likely gaming at 1440p or potentially 4k, so knowing which is best for those options.

games they will be playing could be all sorts, COD / RDR2 to minecraft :D but they may play some higher end games

i was also questioning the ram, as this seems to be ddr4, i would put the ram up to 3600 but would OCUK upgrade to ddr5 ram if we opened a support ticket, assuming a different mobo may also be needed?

All help / advice is greatly appreciated, if there are any other pre builds within +£200 which you know of that would be better let me know!

thanks
 
my take:

pick:
- 14600k
- cooler master cpu cooler
- corsair 32gb ddr4
- zotac 4070 super

reasoning:
- 14600k gives you an integrated gpu you might need for troubleshooting one day, or for the pc to live it's second life without needing a gpu. for the sake of a tenner just get it.
- kolink is a bit too much of a budget brand to trust with an aio, if an aio breaks you have problems, worth stepping up to the cooler master, they're a decent brand it's likely a better product.
- 32gb ram over 16gb gives you future proofing, and it's cheap to get 32gb so just do it. what you're buying is not having to deal with support/upgrades if/when 16gb turns out not to be enough.
- ddr4 vs ddr5 doesn't matter, forget about it.
- don't buy a 4k monitor, even a 4070 super isn't good enough, and better graphics cards get ridic expensive.
- I'd advise regular 1440p 27" over 34" wide, it's easier for the gpu and plenty big enough.
- at 1440p, a 4070 super is much better than a 4060-Ti, that's a necessary upgrade.
 
dunn2010 said:
for the extra money is it worth upgrading the gfx card to the 16gb version for the extra £45, or is it better to just upgrade straight to the 4070 super for £175
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The 4070 Super is a much stronger card and more suitable for 1440p & 4K, but if the budget won't stretch that far then I'd definitely pay the £45, considering the resolution it will be used at. The 4060 Ti is a pretty weak card really and a very poor 'improvement' over the 3060 Ti, which is not fixed by giving it 16GB of memory, partly because the bus width is exactly the same on both versions.

dunn2010 said:
i was also questioning the ram, as this seems to be ddr4, i would put the ram up to 3600 but would OCUK upgrade to ddr5 ram if we opened a support ticket, assuming a different mobo may also be needed?
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I don't see why not, they build 100% custom PCs.

dunn2010 said:
All help / advice is greatly appreciated, if there are any other pre builds within +£200 which you know of that would be better let me know!
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£1350 is the price of that build?

This would be an AMD alternative:

My basket at OcUK:
  • 1 x OcUK Gaming Harrier - AMD Ryzen 5 5600 Radeon Gaming PC (SKU: FS-1EU-OG) = £1,340.06
    • Case: 1 x Aerocool Dryft Mini v2 Micro-ATX Case
    • Processor: 1 x AMD Ryzen 5 7600X Six Core 5.30GHz (Socket AM5) Processor - Retail
    • Memory: 1 x Kingston FURY Beast EXPO 32GB (2x16GB) DDR5 PC5-48000C36 6000MHz Dual Channel Kit (KF560C36BBEK2-32)
    • Graphics: 1 x SAPPHIRE PULSE AMD Radeon™ RX 7700 XT Gaming Graphics Card with 12GB GDDR6, AMD RDNA™ 3 architecture
    • Cooler: 1 x Kolink Umbra Void AIO 240mm Performance ARGB CPU Water Cooler
    • M.2 Solid State Drive: 1 x WD Black SN770 1TB SSD M.2 2280 NVME PCI-E Gen4 Solid State Drive (WDS100T3X0E)
    • Operating System: 1 x Build Stock Microsoft Windows 11 Home Advanced - Systems

Total: £1,340.06 (includes delivery: £0.00)​

7800X3D upgrade is £150 (from the 7600X).
7800 XT upgrade is £90 (from the 7700 XT).
 
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Alternatively, you could give OCUK a parts list and they'd build the rig for you for a fee:

My basket at OcUK:

Total: £1,137.80 (includes delivery: £0.00)​

Something like this would fit the bill pretty well, just install Windows yourself. Keys can be had for a fiver, but you can also run with some minor limitations without one.

There is room for savings with a little fiddling, but at least you know exactly what's going into your rig when going this route.
 
TeamGroup Delta RGB 32GB (2X16GB) DDR5 PC5-48000C38 6000MHz Dual Channel Ki
MY-0AT-TG
£290 (incl. VAT)
£180 (incl. VAT)
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MSI MAG A750GL 750W 80 Plus Gold ATX 3.0 PCIE5 Modular Power Supply
CA-013-MS
£100 (incl. VAT)
£75 (incl. VAT)
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AMD Ryzen 5 7600 Six Core 5.10GHz (Socket AM5) Processor - Retail
CP-3DW-AM
£219 (incl. VAT)
£161 (incl. VAT)
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Aerocool Dryft Mini v2 Micro-ATX Case
CAS-AER-00607
£55 (incl. VAT)
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Gray2233 said:
Alternatively, you could give OCUK a parts list and they'd build the rig for you for a fee:

My basket at OcUK:

Total: £1,137.80 (includes delivery: £0.00)​

Something like this would fit the bill pretty well, just install Windows yourself. Keys can be had for a fiver, but you can also run with some minor limitations without one.

There is room for savings with a little fiddling, but at least you know exactly what's going into your rig when going this route.
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I didnt know OCUK offered that as a service!

is it safe to assume they only offer their 3 year warranty on pre built rigs they offer? and using the option above to let them build your parts list you would be then need to rma a single part if one were to fail? (If this is the case then i think it needs to be prebuilt so its easier if something were to break)
 
TeamGroup Delta RGB 32GB (2X16GB) DDR5 PC5-48000C38 6000MHz Dual Channel Ki
MY-0AT-TG
£290 (incl. VAT)
£180 (incl. VAT)
Find out more
MSI MAG A750GL 750W 80 Plus Gold ATX 3.0 PCIE5 Modular Power Supply
CA-013-MS
£100 (incl. VAT)
£75 (incl. VAT)
Find out more
AMD Ryzen 5 7600 Six Core 5.10GHz (Socket AM5) Processor - Retail
CP-3DW-AM
£219 (incl. VAT)
£161 (incl. VAT)
Find out more
Aerocool Dryft Mini v2 Micro-ATX Case
CAS-AER-00607
£55 (incl. VAT)
Find out more
dunn2010 said:
I didnt know OCUK offered that as a service!

is it safe to assume they only offer their 3 year warranty on pre built rigs they offer? and using the option above to let them build your parts list you would be then need to rma a single part if one were to fail? (If this is the case then i think it needs to be prebuilt so its easier if something were to break)
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You'll get the same length/style build warranty as you would with a regular pre-build, and of course any parts which have longer warranties will continue separately beyond that.

I think they charge around £150-200 usually, but it's worth checking in with them either way.

I find the prebuilds on their website a little limited, and they often have questionable components (kolink PSU's, bottom of the barrel motherboards etc) that I'd rather avoid.
 
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Gray2233 said:
I find the prebuilds on their website a little limited, and they often have questionable components (kolink PSU's, bottom of the barrel motherboards etc) that I'd rather avoid.
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I think it will be a Kolink PSU.

Power Supply850W 80+ Bronze Rated PSU

If you do go with a pre-build you can ask OCUK to swap to a better one.
 
£1350 for a 4060ti gaming rig with 16gb of ddr4 ram, 1tb storage and a bronze power supply?........wow. that's a hard pass....have a look at some yt vids on building a pc...can do it with your sisters kids too....if you can build lego, you can build a pc...not that difficult
What i hate is they charge you retail for the parts and then charge for the build on top....making double bubble so to speak
 
Similar to @Gray2233 but atx board witha 7900gre and 2tb storage..used a rm850x psu with 10yrs warranty...as a guilde, as well as having more vram the 7800XT in @Gray2233 has is 38% more powerful than the 4060ti, and the 7900gre is 52% more powerful..., and we both use 32gb of ddr5 ram, rather than 16gb of ddr4...16gb is just not enough now for some modern games..and you can add a copy of windows for £10...just google it

My basket at OcUK:

Total: £1,244.89 (includes delivery: £0.00)​
 
AMD Ryzen 5 7600 Six Core 5.10GHz (Socket AM5) Processor - Retail
CP-3DW-AM
£219 (incl. VAT)
£161 (incl. VAT)
Find out more
TeamGroup Delta RGB 32GB (2X16GB) DDR5 PC5-44800C30 6000MHz Dual Channel Kit - Black (FF3D532G6000HC30DC01)
MY-0B8-TG
£350 (incl. VAT)
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Phanteks XT Pro Ultra ATX Case Tempered Glass Window, Black
CAS-PHK-01443
£75 (incl. VAT)
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Thanks all , on my way over to theirs today to chat to them about it appreciate all replies!

i might float the idea of them just building the rig from components, i was going to ask why they wanted prebuilt, assuming its just for ease (i build all my own pcs from components you guys usually spec for me, so was a little surprised when they didnt ask me if i would build from components)

thanks All!
 
dunn2010 said:
Thanks all , on my way over to theirs today to chat to them about it appreciate all replies!

i might float the idea of them just building the rig from components, i was going to ask why they wanted prebuilt, assuming its just for ease (i build all my own pcs from components you guys usually spec for me, so was a little surprised when they didnt ask me if i would build from components)

thanks All!
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Prod didn't want to ask, as might of thought sourcing etc is time consuming enough. My nephew phoned my son up to ask me for help
 
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