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Apologies if there is a thread already but I couldn't find one.

So along with home security we are also looking at securing the driveway to deter theft of cars.
Had an independent come and quote today (I was asleep as between nights) but has recommended aluminium as a security gate. All fitted I believe it'd be around £5k. plans will come through tomorrow.

What have others used? Is aluminium a better option for security etc?!

The gate would be remote via phones so can work with AppleCar play when approaching to open the gate on arrival.
Also has fob access and other security measures.

Just after some general help and advise :)
 
Just throwing in Automatic Bollards as a decent option.
Not sure if the same price could see automation the same as the aluminium gates though.

Does this company have feedback and cases that show how these aluminium gates hold up to determined car thieves.
 
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Depends if the thieves bring an angle grinder. Aluminium won't last seconds. Or just ram it off the hinges I suppose :D

Aluminium isn't great for security. I had a small key safe made of aluminium, which the code was lost for. Took me 5 minutes to open it with a hacksaw and screwdriver.

Probably needs to be steel or iron. The heavier the better.
 
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I did think aluminium maybe wouldn’t be ideal but without being there and part of the conversation I wasn’t able to ask many questions.

Tomorrow I shall enquire further and also look at bollards. It’s a minefield of information
 
coincidentally - guy down the road had a steel rolling gate, on track, installed this summer (imported from france he'd told me, about 1m tall) radio/app controlled
this evening was open and saw that someone seems to have jemyed/damaged the mechanism at the lock end, and (speculating) can you just manually roll them open in that case.
 
aVdub said:
Just throwing in Automatic Bollards as a decent option.
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This came up on a security thing at work - anything other than properly high end gates offer little deterrence to car thieves while decent bollards are quite effective if installed properly apparently (i.e. no weak points like low walls). Obviously bollards aren't useful if you also want to prevent people getting easy access on foot.
 
jpaul said:
coincidentally - guy down the road had a steel rolling gate, on track, installed this summer (imported from france he'd told me, about 1m tall) radio/app controlled
this evening was open and saw that someone seems to have jemyed/damaged the mechanism at the lock end, and (speculating) can you just manually roll them open in that case.
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A lot of mechanical/moving parts like this are prone to jamming by themselves when outdoors. The runners will need cleaning out regularly.

Those raising bollards break all the time apparently, which is why you don't see them much anymore. They are under the floor so loads of dirt gets in there and they jam eventually.
 
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seems expensive, I have a galvanised iron gate (albeit manual) and was only ~1K, can't see an automatic version costing an extra 4k
 
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eviled said:
seems expensive, I have a galvanised iron gate (albeit manual) and was only ~1K, can't see an automatic version costing an extra 4k
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Better than a £14k quote we've had :cry:

We want something which slides across. Entrance and drive would suit it.
They'll install additional railings on the wall to match the gate so when opened it'll blend in.

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magicroundabout said:
Better than a £14k quote we've had :cry:

We want something which slides across. Entrance and drive would suit it.
They'll install additional railings on the wall to match the gate so when opened it'll blend in.

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That would look nice tbh.
I take it the additional railings also take away the option for thieves to knock down the wall and drive out?
 
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That would look nice tbh.
I take it the additional railings also take away the option for thieves to knock down the wall and drive out?
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Exactly that. As extra deterrent.

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Will you have something going down the left hand side too? Would be pretty easy to drive through those bushes if someone wanted to.
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If they did that good luck to them. There’s concrete fence posts that are 4ft apart the other side
 
magicroundabout said:
Exactly that. As extra deterrent.


If they did that good luck to them. There’s concrete fence posts that are 4ft apart the other side
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I think they would go well with the building (black gates?)

Also looking at the left hand side bushes, you would probably require 2 barriers, which would bring the costs up.

Would be interested to see the design of the gates when you get them.
 
We had manual gates installed and that was £2k so I don't think that's too bad for electric, word of warning a house just up from me had electric installed and they're forever propped open as they fail so often, not sure what company etc. they used but made me decide I was happy with manual ones
 
Maundie said:
We had manual gates installed and that was £2k so I don't think that's too bad for electric, word of warning a house just up from me had electric installed and they're forever propped open as they fail so often, not sure what company etc. they used but made me decide I was happy with manual ones
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same next door has large fancy electric gates , electricians must almost live there, the amount of times ive seen them working on them. now they mostly leave them open.
must admit quite fancied manual sliding gates similar set up to op but not sure about how secure the track would be in the concrete, worried it may pull out or the gate may tip:(
 
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We have a few electric sliding security gates at work, while I'm sure in a different league to what you'd get at home they do spend far more time broken than actually working.

I think a 15 year lifepan was quoted for one of the ones in work, which given how much they cost didn't seem very good value to me.

I did quite fancy one as i've got the perfect space for one but i didn't want it to start squishing all the local cats, plus there didn't seem to be any decent way to remotely open them that wasn't hugely susceptible to being easily hacked :( all the stuff i've seen could have been easily defeated by a relay attack in a couple of minutes. I'd want it to be keypad operated on each side but i didn't have the space on the shared driveway with next door for that.
 
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