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I'm about to jump into the BEV world (Audi e-tron).

What are current owners doing for servicing? I've owned VAG cars for years and have a very reliable local indy garage near me but they can't service or test the battery at the moment. Anything mechanical they're happy to fix.
 
kristmace said:
I'm about to jump into the BEV world (Audi e-tron).

What are current owners doing for servicing? I've owned VAG cars for years and have a very reliable local indy garage near me but they can't service or test the battery at the moment. Anything mechanical they're happy to fix.
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There isn't really any battery service or testing needed I don't think. You might get some software updates by going to the dealer but I don't think there's anything major for the etron.

Be prepared for awful efficiency compared to all the figures others are posting though, you're looking at just over 2miles/KWh in winter.
 
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About 2.3 winter and 2.8 in summer. Average about 2.6. So yeah pretty terrible but my god compared to almost every other EV it is pure premium luxury and comfort. Just make sure it’s not the small battery 50 unless you are happy with a medium range EV with 170 summer and 140 winter miles. E-Tron 55s are going for a ~£21k with less than 35k mileage and poor efficiency means nothing when you are still getting the equivalent of 100mpg in such a good car. If ACC is important make sure to look for it as it was not standard fit on lower spec cars.

Even the extended Audi warranty was a decent price per year and worth getting.
 
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chanjy said:
Yeah the cars are insanely good value now, I'd be able to live with the efficiency it's not that much worse than my I Pace
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I also have an I-Pace and overall prefer it to an E-Tron as a car and yes, not much more efficient. The I-Pace is also insanely good value used, but the extended warranty costs were far more than on an E-Tron. If buying used and these were my two choices I would take an E-Tron for the better warranty costs and better customer support.
 
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I also have an I-Pace and overall prefer it to an E-Tron as a car and yes, not much more efficient. The I-Pace is also insanely good value used, but the extended warranty costs were far more than on an E-Tron. If buying used and these were my two choices I would take an E-Tron for the better warranty costs and better customer support.
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My approved warranty is something like £55 a month, didn't think it was too bad but is the Audi one even cheaper?
 
I was quoted £820 for the Jag assist one (the cheaper one is useless for the I-Pace) and this was before JLR insisted I also have an inspection carried out costing £250. Maybe that inspection is a one off rather than annually? There is also someone on the I-Pace UK forum who was quoted £970.

The Audi one was £600. So more than double for the I-Pace one. Though to be fair that’s hardly a deal breaker. My issue with Jaguar is not the car, but the customer service which is terrible.
 
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Thankfully I have not had any of those. My I-Pace is no worse than other brands such as Volvo, BMW and Audi for minor niggles. The problem for me was 10 weeks to wait for them to look at minor fault and 3 months to wait for parts. That is assuming they don’t simply tell you “no fault found”. Though I’ve heard similar from friends with Kia, Hyundai and MG.
 
Thanks for the replies.

I know they're not the most efficient but with a home charger, I'll still be saving loads compared to my ICE car as my commute is a 40 mile round trip.
 
only bevs beating last October's sales, petrol declined for the last 5 months - compared to last years equivalent month. :confused:
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It will be a natural tail off as manufacturers draw down the numbers of ICE cars made. Anti EVers need to realise by 2030 no new cars will be pure ICE and by 2036 they will be BEV only.
 
ZEV targets for BEV sales, which I think are still the case:

2024 - 22%
2025 - 28%
2026 - 33%
2027 - 38%
2028 - 52%
2029 - 66%
2030 - 80%
2031 onwards TBC but obviously trending to 100% for 2035
 
The the narrative is people would rather not buy a car than buy a BEV but you can see there's a 3% y-o-y sales growth overall so that's surprising in a positive way
 
[ french ev chargers - video on using different networks .. on 600k trip id7/m3 they needed additional 15k detour for the tesla superchargers versus ionity
id7 works out cheaper using ionity, m3 cheaper with superchargers and the cheaper energy they get there ]

ev sales - what the auto manufacturers said to deaf reeves V


What growth there is has come from the fleet sector. Driven by fiscal incentives such as company car
tax and salary sacrifice, they account for 77% of new ZEV registrations. Proof that incentivisation works

A fair transition for private consumers would afford similar support:
• Create a strong fiscal incentive for private consumers such as halving VAT on new ZEV purchases
for three years to put more than two million new ZEVs on the road by 20286
• Amend the Vehicle Excise Duty regime’s treatment of ZEVs and, in particular, the Expensive Car
Supplement to avoid unfairly penalising buyers
• Equalise VAT on public charging to match the 5% home charging rate, and mandate infrastructure
targets to support those who cannot charge at home – both key commitments in Labour’s manifesto
• Maintain and extend the business incentives that are working, including Benefit in Kind rates helping
fleets to renew and supporting company car buyers and those able to access salary sacrifice
schemes
• Maintain and extend the plug-in van and taxi grants, which are due to end in March 2025, and
ensure van-sized public chargers are made commonplace
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Yeah like I said, from experience, but nope you have to go one “better” and post a link. :confused: :rolleyes: Some of the service stations based ones are even cheaper on Electroverse too
 
Drove a Cupra Born VZ and an Ioniq 5N yesterday, welcome power boost to the Cupra and the 5 was a real giggle, great fun and surprised how well the gear change and thumps were implemented.
 
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Drove a Cupra Born VZ and an Ioniq 5N yesterday, welcome power boost to the Cupra and the 5 was a real giggle, great fun and surprised how well the gear change and thumps were implemented.
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I enjoyed chucking the Born VZ around MK the other week. 70 limit dual carriageways all linked with roundabouts, I was just flooring it off them all.

I didn't check the range left when I handed it back, but I hope they plugged it back in :P
 
I just got back from Sherwood center parcs today (also visited rufford ford just to see the site of so many car deaths, unfortunately it seems to be permenantly closed now so didn't get to drive through it - concrete barracade stopping tourists like me having a go).
round trip wise it was just beyond the range of my car but I was assigned an EV charging bay at center parcs for the week and a quick 25kwh at 49p kwh overnight charge was more than enough to get me home. no drama (so much so it was barely worth posting ...... :) )

yes 49p a.kwh is a little pricey for off peak AC charging..... but it was still a small percentage of the energy needed for the journey and with the rest at 7pkwh it was far cheaper than in a petrol or diesel car.
destination charging like this is what is needed all over the place
 
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