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Duncan1978

Duncan1978

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Hi all

New to this forum so forgive me if this has been raised before. I'm looking for advice on buying a gaming PC/laptop. I'm afraid I'm not very clued up on graphic card specs or anything to do with technology. So it is difficult for me to know what spec is sufficient for the games I want to play. I understand the advantage of the PC over the laptop is that it can be upgraded in future whereas the laptop is less future proofed. Hoping you fine people might be able to advise.

Some info on what I'm looking for:

Budget: £1,000 (could push up to £1,400)
Type of games I want to play: World of Warships, Total War series, Sniper Elite, Red Redemption, Heart of Iron IV
Monitor: A PC that I can hook up to my wide screen smart TV would be ideal.

Much appreciated for any advice.
 
Duncan1978 said:
Monitor: A PC that I can hook up to my wide screen smart TV would be ideal.
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What resolution is your TV? We need this information to know how powerful the graphics card will have to be.

Are you going to buy it ready made, or will you build it yourself?
 
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Tetras said:
What resolution is your TV? We need this information to know how powerful the graphics card will have to be.

Are you going to buy it ready made, or will you build it yourself?
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Hi
Resolution is: 3840 x 2160 (4K Resolution)

No idea how to build so would like it ready made.

Thanks
 
yeah that's the problem using 4K TV as your monitor, need a top end GPU or you'd use 1080p then scale to 4K. Which'll probably look pretty bad.

Going from 1080p to 1440p reduced FPS by about 25fps, so going up another 600 odd lines...would be slideshow.
 
Duncan1978 said:
Hi
Resolution is: 3840 x 2160 (4K Resolution)

No idea how to build so would like it ready made.

Thanks
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Ready made PCs can be more difficult to upgrade than self-built, though OCUK use standard parts on their PCs which shouldn't be a problem to replace.

I'd suggest this one, the 4070 Super is pretty capable at 4K, though it is really meant for 1440p:

My basket at OcUK:

Total: £1,299.95 (includes delivery: £0.00)​

This video is for a card that is similar in performance to the 4070 Super, which would give you some idea what to expect:

This second PC should have a more upgradeable CPU, because it is AM5 (the first build I suggested has only one better gaming CPU than the 5700X3D and that wouldn't be worth buying):

Note my changes to the base spec in the title.

My basket at OcUK:
  • 1 x OcUK Gaming Oxygen - AMD Ryzen 5 7500F, GeForce RTX 4060Ti Gaming PC (SKU: FS-1BZ-OG) = £1,326.02
    • Case: 1 x SYSTEM OFFER - APNX Creator C1 Blue Mist Limited Edition Mid Tower Case
    • Memory: 1 x Kingston FURY Beast EXPO 32GB (2x16GB) DDR5 PC5-48000C36 6000MHz Dual Channel Ki
    • Graphics Card: 1 x SAPPHIRE PULSE AMD Radeon™ RX 7800 XT Gaming Graphics Card with 16GB GDDR6, AMD RDNA™ 3 architecture
    • M.2 Solid State Drive: 1 x WD Black SN770 2TB SSD M.2 2280 NVME PCI-E Gen4 Solid State Drive (WDS200T3X0E)
    • Operating System: 1 x Build Stock Microsoft Windows 11 Home Advanced - Systems

Total: £1,326.02 (includes delivery: £0.00)​
 
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MissChief said:
I think you’re going to struggle to get acceptable frames at 4k for £1k. Even £1.4k is bordering on cost cutting. You’ll likely need at least a 4080 which is half your budget or more.
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I did not know that. OK, forget the TV, I'll buy a new monitor. Any suggestions?
 
Tetras said:
Ready made PCs can be more difficult to upgrade than self-built, though OCUK use standard parts on their PCs which shouldn't be a problem to replace.

I'd suggest this one, the 4070 Super is pretty capable at 4K, though it is really meant for 1440p:

My basket at OcUK:

Total: £1,299.95 (includes delivery: £0.00)​

This video is for a card that is similar in performance to the 4070 Super, which would give you some idea what to expect:

This second PC should have a more upgradeable CPU, because it is AM5 (the first build I suggested has only one better gaming CPU than the 5700X3D and that wouldn't be worth buying):

Note my changes to the base spec in the title.

My basket at OcUK:
  • 1 x OcUK Gaming Oxygen - AMD Ryzen 5 7500F, GeForce RTX 4060Ti Gaming PC (SKU: FS-1BZ-OG) = £1,326.02
    • Case: 1 x SYSTEM OFFER - APNX Creator C1 Blue Mist Limited Edition Mid Tower Case
    • Memory: 1 x Kingston FURY Beast EXPO 32GB (2x16GB) DDR5 PC5-48000C36 6000MHz Dual Channel Ki
    • Graphics Card: 1 x SAPPHIRE PULSE AMD Radeon™ RX 7800 XT Gaming Graphics Card with 16GB GDDR6, AMD RDNA™ 3 architecture
    • M.2 Solid State Drive: 1 x WD Black SN770 2TB SSD M.2 2280 NVME PCI-E Gen4 Solid State Drive (WDS200T3X0E)
    • Operating System: 1 x Build Stock Microsoft Windows 11 Home Advanced - Systems

Total: £1,326.02 (includes delivery: £0.00)​
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Many thanks for this. What about if I bought a new monitor rather than using my TV since the resolution is too high for a £1,000 PC.
 
What is the current 4K TV model you have

120hz/144hz capable? If so stick with the tv for now and put most of the budget into the system.

If not get a 2560x1440 Monitor that can do 144hz and you'll get the balance between visuals and performance for your budget.
 
Duncan1978 said:
Many thanks for this. What about if I bought a new monitor rather than using my TV since the resolution is too high for a £1,000 PC.
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I would suggest you buy a PC like the first one I suggested with a 4070 Super and see how you get on with the TV. The 4070 Super has DLSS (upscaling) which will help in some games and in many other games it can do 4K natively.

If you find that the performance is not good enough for you, or the visual quality is too poor, then you can get a 1440p monitor fairly cheaply, still nearly within your 1K4 top budget:

My basket at OcUK:

Total: £112.94 (includes delivery: £3.99)​
 
Tetras said:
I would suggest you buy a PC like the first one I suggested with a 4070 Super and see how you get on with the TV. The 4070 Super has DLSS (upscaling) which will help in some games and in many other games it can do 4K natively.

If you find that the performance is not good enough for you, or the visual quality is too poor, then you can get a 1440p monitor fairly cheaply, still nearly within your 1K4 top budget:

My basket at OcUK:

Total: £112.94 (includes delivery: £3.99)​
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Many thanks. Yes that sounds like the way to go - see if the TV works for it and if not then get a monitor. Thanks for your advice and time.
 
I prefer @Tetras 7500F build as gets you on AM5 platform so gives you an upgrade path though don't really like a a620 mobo

don't have to get the prebuilds they list, you can phone in and email parts
..they'l build it for you(for a fee, but you'll get 3 yrs warranty etc, exactly like a prebuild..prob about £300 build fee, which will bring it inline with your top end budget)..get a windows key(google for £20 and activate it yourself)
if budget allows you can swap the 7800xt for a 4070super(zotac twinedge is £529 at mo), but the 4070S is only 8% faster and 26% more expensive but not sure worth that price increase...dlss might be better than fsr, but when you're on a budget, FSR still works, it's just in some area's it's not as pretty. oyu'll be able to play 4k with a 7800xt..maybe not 120fps on everything
My basket at OcUK:

Total: £1,111.82 (includes delivery: £0.00)​
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below is the 7800xt v 4070sup with a 7600...they go thru 1080/1440 and 4k...remember this is without dlss/fsr enabled, so at 4k upscaling you should still be good playing 4k. good thing about am5 is you have the x3d cpu's to upgrade to down the line, and the 7600 will be sit somewhere between the 5700x3d and 5800x3 in av performance(7600x just beats the 5800x3d and 7600 a couple % behind the 'x'version)....red dead for example is 70fps 4k before upscaling, so you should get 100fps at least​
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