NVIDIA RTX 50 SERIES - Technical/General Discussion

[DizzyZ]

I'm going to buy a knock off 5090 from ali express when they come out. If you like fake frames why not go the whole hog and buy a fake GPU too.

Temu 5090

 

[Noxia]

Temu 5090

That would be an AMD card.

 

[GhostDog1981]

by a couple of hundred?? how big is your house?
My mortgage is "only" 700 squids a month for a 3 bedroom house in the south East.

4 bed detached. Expensive part of the SE!

 

[markoboyo11]

So the 5090 is 25% more expensive than a 4090, if it's only 25% faster it's a fail. Poor at 30-40% faster and ok at 50% in my book.

 

[mrk]

Without multi frame gen it's around 30% faster or lower in raw performance going by what we have seen so far, which is only what nvidia wants to be seen


On the 5070 vs 4090 front, obvious clues are obvious, but:

I just tested the Nvidia GeForce RTX 5070, and yes it can beat the RTX 4090, but there's a big catch

It's RTX 5070 vs 4090, and the new $549 gaming GPU beats the former flagship graphics card in Marvel Rivals, but with a big catch.

www.pcgamesn.com

 

[Twinz]

If the 5090 FE's tiny little cooler is effective at cooling 575 watts, I think Nvidia deserves credit for innovating on that front. (Again)

 

[mrk]

Liquid metal and passthrough airflow, no reason why it would not be able to really.

 

[Grim5]

So the 5090 is 25% more expensive than a 4090, if it's only 25% faster it's a fail. Poor at 30-40% faster and ok at 50% in my book.

25% more money
28% more electricity cost
25% more heat
25% more performance

That's negative 53% value, trust me I'm a mathematician

 

[Hostile_18]

Put power limit to 75%, overclock back to default performance or more. Win.

 

[Rogueywon]

Put power limit to 75%, overclock back to default performance or more. Win.

Got to wonder how much of that 575W is really needed. I've held my 4090 at a 90% power limit for as long as I've had it and don't seem to lose any significant performance.

 

[gpuerrilla]

With nvidia, vram is never free. They have also added ~£200 each gen (more if you just use AIB's).

 

[Kanpai]

AMD will never be able to match the xx90 series.

Hey man, there was also a time when AMD could never match Intel CPUs.

Have faith

 

[Hostile_18]

Got to wonder how much of that 575W is really needed. I've held my 4090 at a 90% power limit for as long as I've had it and don't seem to lose any significant performance.

For gaming hardly ever IMO, but it's there when needed. I imagine the upper scale is for heavy none game related work loads or crazy overclocks.

 

[Ascendancy]

I am going to slam my 5090 into 4x AI Hallucination mode on my 120hz screen and it's going to draw 100W

 

[mrk]

Got to wonder how much of that 575W is really needed. I've held my 4090 at a 90% power limit for as long as I've had it and don't seem to lose any significant performance.

You only lose on average 4fps power limiting a 4090 to 80% power. that's on average, so the actual drop in realtime is even lower. If you undervolt and then OC the VRAM then you end up gaining a few fps whilst still using the same lower power. 4090s are highly overspecced on the power front.

 

[shrek2]

Is it me or should the
5080 be the 5070ti
5070ti be the 5070
5070 be the 5060?
I do hope reviewers call NVIDIA out on their BS but I doubt it.
We have had 16GB on the 80-class GPUs for 2 generations now and it doesn't make any sense.

Gap between the 5090 and 5080 is way too big.

 

[Hostile_18]

When you have the best of the best anything else is on the devs IMO. It's a nice feeling for the next two years.

We all know 5090 will be able to sold for almost it's full cost at the end of the gen. It's a none brainer if you have the money and are a gamer.

Only time I'd say to ignore that advice is when the performance between the top two tiers is super close... and let's face it Nvidia would never allow that again.

Tech just isn't advancing like it use to, but it is holding its value much better.

 

[Vertigo]

I never saw a single aib 4090 below 2000. I think it will be even worse this time.

Nonsense, there were plenty around the £1700 mark.

So the 5090 is 25% more expensive than a 4090, if it's only 25% faster it's a fail. Poor at 30-40% faster and ok at 50% in my book.

Yeah I feel like 40% is the threshold for me.

Liquid metal and passthrough airflow, no reason why it would not be able to really.

So, if the FE is using liquid metal, does that mean they've been working with Thermal Grizzly on the cooler design and does that mean Roman has had access to prototypes for a while and already knows how it performs?

 

[DizzyZ]

So the 5090 is 25% more expensive than a 4090, if it's only 25% faster it's a fail. Poor at 30-40% faster and ok at 50% in my book.

Nah not 25% more expensive, you're forgetting exchange rates, inflation and last but not least the greed tax

 

[DizzyZ]

I never saw a single aib 4090 below 2000. I think it will be even worse this time.

I got my gigabyte gaming oc for around £1920 on launch, which was a tier above the lowerst tier, I think lowest I saw it and reasonable to get was around £1800