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NVIDIA RTX 50 SERIES - (PRE)ORDER DISCUSSION **NO COMPETITOR HINTING**

To many, including myself, they look like a child designed the card with crayons and shiny plastic.

If you're not displaying your GPU in a glass case on a desk though, Palit and other colourful monstrosities will do just fine.
It's probably because they are more designed for the Asian market than European.
 
The issue I'm having is paying £1.2k for a 5080 which would have been a 5070 (at best) a few years ago, with only 16gb of ram in 2025 really does not sit well. Even if its more sensible.
You would be out of your mind if it did sit well. It's already been enumerated many times, but nV are really pushing the envelope on multiple shady fronts in crap-ification of their products. To name a few: fake MSRP, cutting AIB margins, scarcity creation, reducing segment specs, and deceptive marketing.

They've pulled most of this chicanery in the past, but never all simultaneously and with such insidious verve.
 
I had a 3080 10GB Palit card at launch, it wasn’t a bad card but paid near to msrp was a fantastic card for £700. Even more so before the crypto boom where people were paying stupid money for them. I’d pay msrp for that Palit 5090 and not a penny more. But to imagine someone may pay £1000 over msrp is ridiculous. You could buy both a 5080 and 5090 FE for less and they’re less ugly!
 
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So Basically OCUK shop on 5090 release day in a shell then :P
Sort of. LIke AIBs, reseller margins have also been reduced in past years. I've gone over this a few pages back, but resellers are (somewhat) less culpable here, and even with the inflated prices they're not making a windfall. I did the math and the entirety of OCUK's supplementary margin from the first few days is a "show me the door" bonus for many in my industry. It's definitly not Mclaren money as some people have suggested -- that requires volume.

But unlike nV who will be fine and dandy despite their anti-consumer tactics, resellers who do surge and short-demand really putting themselves at risk of ticking off their customer base -- it's not like there aren't 6-7 alternatives.

At the end of the day, the buck stops with nV for very intentionally creating this situation.
 
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You would be out of your mind if it did sit well. It's already been enumerated many times, but nV are really pushing the envelope on multiple shady fronts in crap-ification of their products. To name a few: fake MSRP, cutting AIB margins, scarcity creation, reducing segment specs, and deceptive marketing.

They've pulled most of this chicanery in the past, but never all simultaneously and with such insidious verve.
Which leads me back to thinking of getting a 5090. Even if it’s overkill, ah well, guess I’ll see I can be bothered waiting for a 5090 at non gouged prices in next few weeks.
 
Sort of. LIke AIBs, reseller margins have also been reduced in past years. I've gone over this a few pages back, but resellers are (somewhat) less culpable here, and even with the inflated prices they're not making a windfall. I did the math and the entirety of OCUK's supplementary margin from the first few days is a "show me the door" bonus for many in my industry. It's definitly not Mclaren money as some people have suggested -- that requires volume.

But unlike nV who will be fine and dandy despite their anti-consumer tactics, resellers who do surge and short-demand really putting themselves at risk of ticking off their customer base -- it's not like there aren't 6-7 alternatives.

At the end of the day, the buck stops with nV for very intentionally creating this situation.
Whatever hype I had for the 5090 has pretty much subsided now. Now I am not even bothered if I get one or not. And while I haven't rocked a xx80 series card as my main GPU since the 980. The 5080 will suffice for now even though the 16gb ram is still a sore point. Would it have made a diff if it came with 20 or 24gb? In all honesty prob no. You have to OC it to get the performance uplift of xx80 series of years gone by and not everyone is willing to do that. The pricing is woefully off the mark even worse than the 4080 as that was another 16gb card but that was just over 2 years ago.
Honestly for my 2nd or 3rd card for my pc's I am hoping the 9070xt can magically turn the GPU landscape around and offer enthusiasts what the nvdia's can't and I am not talking about the extra home insurance for Fire damage that you need with Nvidia :P
 
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Not sure why PALIT get so much hate really, my 4090 Palit Gamerock has been excellent, a lot of these cards are made in the same factories.
I have purchased Palit GameRock 2080Ti 6 years ago. The card has died after 30 days because of a VRAM issue. The OCUK has sent me a replacement. The second card died after 30 days again.:) Finally, they made a refund after the 3rd card went rogue again.
 
I dragged my feet on the Palit 5080 and its oos. Any idea how often they are restocked?
The 5080 overall is coming back in stock more often, so I say you haven’t missed out. In addition, scalpers aren’t getting much quick sales on eBay. There are a couple of Palit listings asking near retailer price, which is stupid.
 
As expected a good chunk of the FE drop on Thursday has made its way to Ebay :rolleyes: was checking on there on Thursday just after the drop and were probably like 3 cards remaining... now a good 48 :mad:
Yeah it's sad isn't it really as it keeps it out of genuine customers hands. I got mine yesteday at 6pm and it was in my rig and running by half past lol.

That other place that fulfill the Fe orders and had that open day sold FEs on that day and people were commenting on their Facebook page that all they will do is scalp them.

They replied saying no they won't, our customers are genuine blah blah blah.

A few hours later they started appearing on eBay and people were posting screenshots saying oh yeah then whats this then

I hate scalping but unfortunately you can't stop them.
 
My question is, would a 5090 be totally overkill for my needs? I'd obviously need a new PSU for a 5090, my CPU would be holding it back and I spend 95% of my time gaming at 1440p. I tend to keep my GPUs 4 years roughly.

My 3 options are:

Get a 5090 when available give her the 3080 (2.xk + 200-300 for a good psu)
Get a 5080 (a lot quicker probably) and give her the 3080 (£1.2k ish)
Buy another second hand 3080 for her and struggle through with my 3080 till the 6xxx series (£350).

I don't really care about the money but wasting for the sake of having the best without a proper need for it would be pretty dumb.

What do you guys think?
If you can call a £1K+ GPU sensible, a 5080 is more sensible in your case, especially since you mainly play at 1440p.

Any reason you're not considering a 9070 XT?
 
As expected a good chunk of the FE drop on Thursday has made its way to Ebay :rolleyes: was checking on there on Thursday just after the drop and were probably like 3 cards remaining... now a good 48 :mad:

Even if that is true, it’s still good news long term. Suggests that a lot of ‘demand’ is people planning for resales…

And it’s just like… nah. Why would anyone be bothered with buying one from a random seller that this point, with more on the way :o

That will probably drop off quite sharpish if supply sorts out.
 
Yeah it's sad isn't it really as it keeps it out of genuine customers hands. I got mine yesteday at 6pm and it was in my rig and running by half past lol.

That other place that fulfill the Fe orders and had that open day sold FEs on that day and people were commenting on their Facebook page that all they will do is scalp them.

They replied saying no they won't, our customers are genuine blah blah blah.

A few hours later they started appearing on eBay and people were posting screenshots saying oh yeah then whats this then

I hate scalping but unfortunately you can't stop them.
You can actually stop them. The trick is to make the risk and cost of business so high, it's not worth while. I bought a couple 3080s after launch that were listed during the crypto craze for hundreds over RRP, had them sit in a closet weeks, then returned them. Man, were those sellers/scalpers mad :)
 
If you can call a £1K+ GPU sensible, a 5080 is more sensible in your case, especially since you mainly play at 1440p.

Any reason you're not considering a 9070 XT?
Mostly bad luck with AMD over the years. Had so many failed AMD GPUs I wouldn’t go back there on principle.
 
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