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*** The AMD RDNA 4 Rumour Mill ***

so much bickering about drivers.

My personal experience over many years is that amd drivers are absolutely fine. I’ve had a handful of issues running latest over the last 6-8 amd gpus I’ve had.

Nvidia is probably more stable on paper but I’ve had issues with their drivers too.

All in, drivers make no difference to my decision.
 
ICDP said:
You have deliberately cut context and large parts of my post where I outlined how they do indeed adjust and even cut prices.
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I cut out everything that wasn't relevant to the argument. The only relevant thing you mentioned was that in the past they did that rarely - here read my last sentence as response to it. That's it.

The gist is - again - I know what they do, you know what they do. You don't have to tell me. Larger public doesn't know it - they only see new model with new pricing, no price drops. I don't think you understand what they are doing and why - it's just pure marketing BS, to show that they are premium brand and they don't drop prices. It's a perception, not reality. But any adjustments take time as super model has to arrive, so it won't happen anytime soon. Apple does the same thing and other brands try to follow. And I also wouldn't assume Nvidia really care to sell more graphics cards - they already have very little stock and it all sells out instantly as is. They also said multiple times openly over the years they are happy to limit stock to uphold prices - gamers are only 7% of their revenue, if it drops a fraction of percentage just because they hold stock back for a while, won't affect them at all. AMD won't be able to change that in just one generation either - it will take multiple good releases to make a dent.
 
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I know the cards go on sale at 2pm Thursday, and I will definitely be buying one, but do we have any indication from OCUK when the actual prices will be posted?
 
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throwaway4372 said:
But you can just change that yourself?
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It doesn't necessarily equate to the chip is faster as each unit will clock better than others. It is a loose way of identifying if something is boosting higher out of the box then its had some light form of binning on a bench in their factors process.
 
ICDP said:
Yeah, just watched that MLID video and to be fair he has been mostly accurate on his Blackwell and RDNA4 leaks so far.

He is basically now saying RDNA4 is ample stock initially but as it becomes clear the 5070 has poor stock (like the rest of the lineup), people will be buying up RDNA4 as the only viable option.
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I've been saying the same thing for a while here now, that many people will just buy whatever is in stock and not wait for months for overpriced products.
This will in turn cause shortages and prices increases.
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That doesn't have to be true - not only Nvidia still has hardcore fans that will just wait for their stock, no matter what but also AMD might have enough production capacity for steady stream of stock to the market. We simply don't know yet to judge and everything else is just pure guessing. In the end, these are still relatively expensive luxury products and not necessity.
 
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grudas said:
so much bickering about drivers.

My personal experience over many years is that amd drivers are absolutely fine. I’ve had a handful of issues running latest over the last 6-8 amd gpus I’ve had.

Nvidia is probably more stable on paper but I’ve had issues with their drivers too.

All in, drivers make no difference to my decision.
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Old habits, and reputations die hard sadly. NVidia have had driver issues plenty of times too but seem to always get away without being tarred with a reputation for them.

It's true AMD, or more realistically ATI had bad drivers at times, but you're talking 20+ years ago. Since the AMD takeover in 2006 things have improved markedly and there are very few issues most people will ever come across.
 
ICDP said:
True. I try to keep around 320W maximum for a GPU. The excess heat from anything more than that heats my small room up too quickly.
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Amen to that !

The room my rig is in is a little bigger than Harry Potters room under the stairs so it heats up FAST, It's why I limit all games to 60FPS to keep temps in their 40's, Pumping out 60'c makes the room uncomfortable to the point I have leg hinge sweat :D.
 
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Combat squirrel said:
You're talking absolute nonsense, its an old wives tale 'AMD Drivers are bad' - rock solid mate, my 6800xt is flawless & actually sped up the card a good amount.......its nice its got a lot faster to the point I really dont need to upgrade, at all. No issues, no glitching, great IQ, no crashes, all very dull and just works ;)
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Yes and no. As in, generally they work great, all my buddies have AMD GPUs currently and zero real issues with drivers. I have currently Nvidia only because I like to see both camps but also 6800xt didn't work properly in my rig because of drivers bug - random black screens, fixed by AMD finally in drivers months after I sold my card and switched to Nvidia. That's been very limited it seems to specific configurations, hence hard to squash and not many people experienced it. I've gone through 6 cards of various brands, all behaved the same. But that was one off. Since then I've seen so many bugs with Nvidia drivers, including dreaded black screens on my 4090, random crashes on YouTube, still buggy even going from YouTube window to full screen (video vanish, only sound plays, I have to minimise and go full again to fix) etc.
 
Dicehunter said:
Amen to that !

The room my rig is in is a little bigger than Harry Potters room under the stairs so it heats up FAST, It's why I limit all games to 60FPS to keep temps in their 40'c, While the 7900XTX is great, Pumping out 60'c makes the room uncomfortable to the point I have leg hinge sweat :D.
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Yeah I think a lot of people overlook this. A PC pumping out 700w or so is disgusting when the weather gets hot. God knows what a 600w GPU does to a room. I fitted aircon recently (heatpumps to be pedantic) and this definitely contributed to that. I just didn't want to play on the PC, too much swamp-gooch.
 
SeeNoWeevil said:
Yeah I think a lot of people overlook this. A PC pumping out 700w or so is disgusting when the weather gets hot. God knows what a 600w GPU does to a room. I fitted aircon recently (heatpumps to be pedantic) and this definitely contributed to that. I just didn't want to play on the PC, too much swamp-gooch.
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And gaming on a plasma TV also :D
 
SeeNoWeevil said:
Yeah I think a lot of people overlook this. A PC pumping out 700w or so is disgusting when the weather gets hot. God knows what a 600w GPU does to a room. I fitted aircon recently (heatpumps to be pedantic) and this definitely contributed to that. I just didn't want to play on the PC, too much swamp-gooch.
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well back in the day I used to run Quadfire 2x7990's. I can tell you that that kind of wattage can heat the upstairs of an average sized 4 bedroom house within a few hours while gaming at load :cry:

pretty much unusable in the summer, most of my time spent gaming with that set up was just in my underpants.
 
Combat squirrel said:
You're talking absolute nonsense, its an old wives tale 'AMD Drivers are bad' - rock solid mate, my 6800xt is flawless & actually sped up the card a good amount.......its nice its got a lot faster to the point I really dont need to upgrade, at all. No issues, no glitching, great IQ, no crashes, all very dull and just works ;)
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Yeah, look at which company are having driver issues now!

Though my new card has been rock solid.
 
Tenebreaux said:
I know the cards go on sale at 2pm Thursday, and I will definitely be buying one, but do we have any indication from OCUK when the actual prices will be posted?
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The prices go live at 2pm, the exact same time as the website crawls to a halt/goes down due to being hammered with too many buyers.

Maybe gibbo will hint which exact aib has the most stock=that's the one to go for if the price/warranty/brand is right for you.

Good luck.
 
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