OcUK GUIDE TO ORDERING YOUR AMD 9070 GRAPHICS CARD TODAY AT 14:00

[Jono8]

The 9070 XT seems to be trading blows with the $999 7900 XTX that went before in some respects, and the $899 7900 XT - which seems to be some way from "horrible" performance / price, and represents quite an improvement in price / performance - and that's before inflation in the intervening period is taken into account.

Except the 7900xtx was available for under £800 most of the way through 2024. In fact quite often for ~ £750.

Same with the 4070ti super which is only 10% behind in raster and slightly faster in RT (compared to the 9070xt). that was available for £730 as far back as April 2024.

What they were going for on launch is irrelevant.

 

[Bacalhau]

Wait, so an $800 GPU that is about 20% slower in raster at 1440p (25% at 4K), has 4GB less VRAM and is matched in PT in a heavily Nvidia optimised game. Oh no, the 9070 XT obviously sucks considering the lower launch price (even with scalping). not only that, you have enabled frame gen.

Try harder next time. At least have the decency to compare the entire experience and if taken as a whole the 9070 XT is a much better product than the 4070 Ti.

I wanted the 9070 and XT to be cheaper, but let’s not pretend it’s not at least moving the needle to make RT more mainstream.

Why so angry? Relax

Just run the benchmark and post a picture. Same settings.

 

[Straz]

Are we likely to ever see 9070XT's at the release price of £569 again (this generation)?

 

[henson0115]

Are we likely to ever see 9070XT's at the release price of £569 again (this generation)?

when the market starts drying up to get more sales in sure

 

[ChosenName]

Except the 7900xtx was available for under £800 most of the way through 2024. In fact quite often for ~ £750.

Indeed - at which point it was a year old, heading for two years old, with a successor expected at some point.

Same with the 4070ti super which is only 10% behind in raster and slightly faster in RT (compared to the 9070xt). that was available for £730 as far back as April 2024.

.... and c.£850 now if a new one can be found retail.

What they were going for on launch is irrelevant.

Which price is relevant then - the lowest ever seen, the highest ever seen, something else?

 

[Kirkatron]

Except the 7900xtx was available for under £800 most of the way through 2024. In fact quite often for ~ £750.

Same with the 4070ti super which is only 10% behind in raster and slightly faster in RT (compared to the 9070xt). that was available for £730 as far back as April 2024.

What they were going for on launch is irrelevant.

Current pricing is relevant though if you are moving from one GPU to another, as the GPU you currently have is also inflated. I've sold my XTX for over £800 and picked up the Nitro XT for £699. I didn't care what those overall figures were (I'd have paid £900 if the XTX was inflated to £1k), it's the difference between them that counted.
Obviously these infalated prices suck if you are just buying from scratch.

 

[ICDP]

Why so angry? Relax

Just run the benchmark and post a picture. Same settings.

lol, no. To prove what, that your settings are a unplayable mess IMHO?

Or that a 9070 XT scores ~7% lower than the 4070Ti in CP2077 with Path Tracing in a heavily Nvidia optimised title? Yet step outside that bubble and it’s about 20 - 25% faster with 4GB more VRAM and 25% lower cost? Not to mention it is considerably cheaper and that includes the scalped pricing.

Why are so many people angry that Nvidia barely moving the needle on price and performance coming here to take it out on AMD?

 

[Gerard]

lol, no. To prove what, that your settings are a unplayable mess IMHO?

That CP2077 is a heavily Nvidia optimised title?

Why are so many people angry that Nvidia barely moving the needle on price and performance coming here to take it out on AMD?

A rather random account that before today hadn't posted in almost a year, and before that 2021.

 

[ICDP]

A rather random account that before today hadn't posted in almost a year, and before that 2021.

And zero posts in the Nvidia 5000 series thread lamenting how terrible those GPUs are and how the entire launch was and still is considered a joke.

By all means rag on AMDs fake MSRP, or the poor 9070 price, or that they need to get more FSR4 titles out there. But to get at them for being 10% slower in PT in a heavily Nvidia biased title… well AMD must have done something right if that’s all you’ve got.

 

[GhostDog1981]

People have yet to accept that AMD is now on par with those value added, previously Nvidia-only features.

9070XT is a great card (near XTX performance and 4070ti level RT) for msrp (£569.99) not a penny more imo.

 

[ICDP]

People have yet to accept that AMD is now on par with those value added, previously Nvidia-only features.

9070XT is a great card (near XTX performance and 4070ti level RT) for msrp (£569.99) not a penny more imo.

I paid £629 for the XT Pulse and have no regrets, got £450 for the 7900 XT it replaced.

 

[GhostDog1981]

I paid £629 for the XT Pulse and have no regrets, got £450 for the 7900 XT it replaced.

Tbh there are no cards in stock and £629 is not too far off £570…. Better to have a play earlier than be waiting weeks/months for £59 quid discount.

 

[ChosenName]

I paid £629 for the XT Pulse and have no regrets, got £450 for the 7900 XT it replaced.

Same, except my 7900 XT Pulse went into my son's PC.

 

[GhostDog1981]

Let’s hope AMD have learned they have needed a compelling product (9070XT certainly is) at a decent price point for market share and will carry that into design of UDNA.

 

[Tythus]

Let’s hope AMD have learned they have needed a compelling product (9070XT certainly is) at a decent price point for market share and will carry that into design of UDNA.

I hope that UDNA will ring back a big boy card 80/80ti level

 

[ICDP]

Let’s hope AMD have learned they have needed a compelling product at a decent price point for market share and will carry that into design of UDNA.

I hope so, but unfortunately the way this is playing out they see thy Nvidia have practically abandoned the market. So why not just increase prices and take advantage.

Nvidia have showed zero intention of preventing AMD taking their market share. AI is just too lucrative.

 

[ChosenName]

I hope so, but unfortunately the way this is playing out they see thy Nvidia have practically abandoned the market. So why not just increase prices and take advantage.

Nvidia have showed zero intention of preventing AMD taking their market share. AI is just too lucrative.

Indeed - AMD, like NVidia, Intel, etc., are a business - and the primary duty of its directors is "to act in the best interests of the company and its members by promoting its success and exercising reasonable care, skill, and diligence.", i.e. make a profit.

AMD has revenue streams that are significantly more profitable in terms of $/mm² than dGPUs.

 

[Tythus]

Indeed - AMD, like NVidia, Intel, etc., are a business - and the primary duty of its directors is "to act in the best interests of the company and its members by promoting its success and exercising reasonable care, skill, and diligence.", i.e. make a profit.

AMD has revenue streams that are significantly more profitable in terms of $/mm² than dGPUs.

yep cpus atm especially epyc must be a gold mine for them

 

[ChosenName]

yep cpus atm especially epyc must be a gold mine for them

Quite. It's not just that though, the smaller the die the less likely it is to have any defects, so the yield per wafer improves. GPUs are "large" in that respect which makes their yield per wafer lower.

 

[Tythus]

Quite. It's not just that though, the smaller the die the less likely it is to have any defects, so the yield per wafer improves. GPUs are "large" in that respect which makes their yield per wafer lower.

Chiplet gpu's coming to a pc near you soon main issue is bandwidth/latency between dies