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Warning - Beware of fake GPUs
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Totally the retailers fault, selling used items as new. Even if a customer returns it and says its unwanted, they should not sell it as new.
I've had motherboards from there sold as new, and not have any accessories come with it, and fake seals. I'd avoid them for any large purchases.
I've had motherboards from there sold as new, and not have any accessories come with it, and fake seals. I'd avoid them for any large purchases.
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They are not that quick.
Yeah exactly my thoughts. Who would go through all the effort to do something like this?Sorry to hear this OP
Rotten luck.
And who does this
Well, it's 3k in their pocket isn't it and the retailer can't prove it. If I was you, email them in writing, don't just go through their standard returns.
I'm sorry by the way, id be devastated by this and very nervous about getting the refund even though it should be fine.
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Hahaha. I read your reply and at first I was like wtf is this guy's problem then I read the small print. It actually put a smile on my face. Thanks, i actually need to smile and laugh because i'm so stressed out right now.
Yeah, I considered not adding the small print but sarcasm doesn't always translate in text!I can only imagine the fretting, I fel very frustrated when my (fortunately legitimate) 5080 had some issues on first arrival (luckily all sorted), and that was just the thought of when I'd have a chance to get another if I had to return. I hope Amazon accept the return without issue.
Man i've bought motherboards (I think almost every motherboard i've ever bought) from the rainforest and never had a problem. Last summer I bought an MSI AM5 motherboard and 7800X3D - all brand new. The only problem was I couldn't get the system to post. I cleaned the thermal paste off the CPU, packaged everything up and returned it telling the rainforest that both parts were faulty.
I'm not sure what was faulty because I ended up buying an MSI Z790 motherboard and 14700K (Also from the rainforest) as soon as I got my refund. To my shock and joy everything worked, it was just straight plug and play. After having spent 2 whole days taking apart and rebuiling the AM5 system multiple times I couldn't get it to post but this Intel system just worked without a hitch.
For some reason every AMD build I have ever tried always fails for some reason or another. The first was an AM4 motherboard which worked well but had an issue where the PC wouldn't post after shutting down Windows unless I flipped the PSU switch off and back on. There was a 500 page thread for this same issue on ASUS's website so this isn't the fault of AMD in any way. I returned the motherboard but sold the CPU (at a loss) and ended up going for an Intel 12th Gen build which worked like a charm.
The second AMD build I tried was the 7800X3D build that I previously described and it went epically wrong. It must have been a bad CPU or dead motherboard because i'm using the same PSU, SSD, AIO cooler, case and GPU in my current 14700K build. It could also have been a dodgy AMD Expo RAM that I bought (Corsair), which also got returned.
I have no plans to upgrade my CPU right now (I primarily game on a 4K TV so i'm usually GPU bound) but I really want my next build to be an AMD X3D chip. I might go for the sucessor to the 9800X3D which would be the 11800X3D I guess? Unless AMD decide to come out with AM6 within the next 2 - 3 years.
Sorry to hear this OP
Rotten luck.
And who does this
Scummy people.
It's probably more of a larger scale operation too, it wont just be the odd bloke making a quick buck given how prevalent it is and how good the repackaging is. They target marketplaces like Amazon because they know if the product appears sealed they'll probably just relist as new, it makes it all the more difficult to trace back to where in the chain something untoward occurred. That sort of thing is far less likely to happen with a shop like OCUK or direct dedicated tech competitors as they generally relist any returns as b-stock and I would assume even with sealed products would investigate the item to make sure it was legit.
Its been going on for a very long time now and Amazon make so much money they just shrug and let it continue, the sad thing is in the case of the OP it's such an extreme that it's blatantly obvious. If you search Amazon or Ebay etc for certain GPU's you'll find a lot of dodgy products that are clearly fake on the low-mid range, and people absolutely will buy them and even use them without realising they've not actually got what they paid for. They even go so far as using edited bios' so when they're installed they appear to be the correct thing, then you get some poor sod on Reddit wondering why his RX580 is getting half the FPS it should.
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Yeah rainforest return and switch scam. GN even did a piece on this its not uncommon as he said if your warehouse employees are being paid peanuts why would they care. The good news is they're usually quibble free on returns.
That's real rough. That kind of stuff is what puts me off sometimes buying expensive items from that place. One of my friends ordered a playstation and got a box of rocks or something some years ago, lol. It's crazy how common the scams are. You always hear about the few who have issues getting a refund from it too, like saying they have to go to the police instead, as if you'd get anywhere with that, though I bet thats the point.
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I find most warnings I read now unfairly target the product, when it's nearly always scamazon.
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Oh no I've got the same card, for the same price, from the same retailer coming.
I've already had one scam complaint from them where they sent me a 512gb Evo SSD in 4tb packaging and had an AWFUL experience returning it.
Thanks @Nitefly for the heads up!
I've already had one scam complaint from them where they sent me a 512gb Evo SSD in 4tb packaging and had an AWFUL experience returning it.
Thanks @Nitefly for the heads up!
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I got from them a different router model in the past than was on the actual box (same look, but previous model that someone returned - scam too and not working properly either). On the plus side, they returned monies with apology for that, instantly. I always contact them by chat, making sure I talk to the human - I have evidence "on paper" then too. They are such a big and rich company it seems their approach is always to refund and make sure you're happy and not penny pinch. Good chances are you'll be fine.Hahaha. I read your reply and at first I was like wtf is this guy's problem then I read the small print
Though, to be clear, in my case it was sold and shipped by them, not just shipped by them. With 3rd party sellers I had more trouble but still got my monies back every time when the marketplace owner stepped in and told them refund or be gone from the platform.
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And who does this
People. It's always fellow human that will mess things up the most.
It seems it's just cheaper for them to give it a quick look and put back on the shelf, then refund in the rare? cases that might be raised, no questions asked. If it was as widespread as we think it wouldn't be cheaper to do it this way anymore and it would've been changed. In the end it's always about monies.
