9950x3d vs 9800x3d

[darket]

Aside from the slight bump in clock speeds is there any benifits of having the 9950x3d over the 9800x3d for gaming ? . Even if a game can use more than the 8 cores 16 threads of the 9800 isn't the core parking making the use case redundant? Or am I missing something blindingly obvious

 

[xaldub]

For 99% of games, no. The majority only utilise a handful of cores at most ; there are a few exceptions eg. Factorio, MSFS 2020/24.

 

[darket]

For 99% of games, no. The majority only utilise a handful of cores at most ; there are a few exceptions eg. Factorio, MSFS 2020/24.

I understand some games all but only a few will utilise more threads, but if when playing games 8 cores are parked that makes the 9950x3d basically a 9800 for the purpose of gaming?

 

[xaldub]

I understand some games all but only a few will utilise more threads, but if when playing games 8 cores are parked that makes the 9950x3d basically a 9800 for the purpose of gaming?

Yes, that's correct.

 

[darket]

Yes, that's correct.

Thanks, kinda makes the 9900x3d an extremely strange middle of the road option

 

[Minstadave]

Thanks, kinda makes the 9900x3d an extremely strange middle of the road option

Yes the 7900X3D and the 9900X3D never made sense. 2 less 3D cache cores than the cheaper 9800X3D, not much cheaper than the full fat 9950X3D.

 

[Capitano]

Thanks, kinda makes the 9900x3d an extremely strange middle of the road option

i was originally thinking of getting this chip, but as people pointed out it has less X3D cores and has disabled cores as well which make the 9800X3D or 9950X3D better buys in every scenario

I would assume once there are 12 core CCD’s that it would be much better, but I can also see the 800 chips being 12 cores, 900 being 16 cores and 950 chips being 24 cores

 

[darket]

i was originally thinking of getting this chip, but as people pointed out it has less X3D cores and has disabled cores as well which make the 9800X3D or 9950X3D better buys in every scenario

I would assume once there are 12 core CCD’s that it would be much better, but I can also see the 800 chips being 12 cores, 900 being 16 cores and 950 chips being 24 cores

I imagine it's main target is system builders rather than retail sales. That would explain the lack of reviews and why basically no tech channels were sent review samples.

A 16 core full x3d chip would be a day one for me

 

[xaldub]

i was originally thinking of getting this chip, but as people pointed out it has less X3D cores and has disabled cores as well which make the 9800X3D or 9950X3D better buys in every scenario

I would assume once there are 12 core CCD’s that it would be much better, but I can also see the 800 chips being 12 cores, 900 being 16 cores and 950 chips being 24 cores

The rumours suggest the next iteration of AMD processors will feature 12 core CCD's - so yes, the 10800 ( or whatever it's labelled ) will be 12 cores / 24 threads.

 

[hornetstinger]

This whole ccd transfer thing is confusing seems they're making it more complicated than it should be.

I'll wait until a final gen AM5 socket CPU is available and upgrade my 7700

 

[Capitano]

The rumours suggest the next iteration of AMD processors will feature 12 core CCD's - so yes, the 10800 ( or whatever it's labelled ) will be 12 cores / 24 threads.

Yes, that's correct.

So most likely going to be 12, 16, 24 then?
Or maybe 12, 18, 24 as that seems to make more sense

 

[xaldub]

So most likely going to be 12, 16, 24 then?
Or maybe 12, 18, 24 as that seems to make more sense

Probably 12, 16 & 24 cores. Depends on yields, I guess, as to what the middle one will be, so 18 is a possibility. Either way, I'm content with the prospect of a 12 core CCD ; that'll do me just fine for a mix of productivity & gaming.

 

[welshrat]

Probably 12, 16 & 24 cores. Depends on yields, I guess, as to what the middle one will be, so 18 is a possibility. Either way, I'm content with the prospect of a 12 core CCD ; that'll do me just fine for a mix of productivity & gaming.

yep, 12 will do me fine

 

[Varys]

Aside from the slight bump in clock speeds is there any benifits of having the 9950x3d over the 9800x3d Or am I missing something blindingly obvious

Forum willy waving. Come join the big boys

 

[xaldub]

Forum willy waving. Come join the big boys

Emphasis on "big"

 

[passey89]

Aside from the slight bump in clock speeds is there any benifits of having the 9950x3d over the 9800x3d for gaming ? . Even if a game can use more than the 8 cores 16 threads of the 9800 isn't the core parking making the use case redundant? Or am I missing something blindingly obvious

The only difference for gaming is the clock speed.

If the system is setup correct it will disable the none 3d cores anyway when gaming. Only 9950 if you do other none gaming tasks.

 

[jigger]

Aside from the slight bump in clock speeds is there any benifits of having the 9950x3d over the 9800x3d for gaming ? . Even if a game can use more than the 8 cores 16 threads of the 9800 isn't the core parking making the use case redundant? Or am I missing something blindingly obvious

Depends on the game, settings and the graphics drivers. If the goal is 150fps using an Nvidia card with image downgrading, then a 9800X3D with windows background bumf set to off. Unless price difference =<75% then 9950X3D of course.

 

[Ravenger]

9800X3D often edges the 9950X3D in gaming performance, but only by a few percent at most. The advantage of course is the 9950X3D absolutely smokes the 9800X3D for non-gaming tasks, especially video encoding.

I chose the 9950X3D because my old PC has a 5900X and I really didn't want to lose cores for video encoding, and the 9900X3D has worse gaming performance than the 9800X3D as it has only 6 3D cache cores, instead of 8.

 

[tamzzy]

Forum willy waving. Come join the big boys

Compensating for something perhaps?