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The Radeon RX9070XT / RX9070 Owners Thread

I believe some B450 Mobos halve their GPU PCIe slot speed when using the second M2 NVMe slot.
So it'll be running PCIe 3.0 x 8. This could have an impact on this GPU as you've lost 87% of the PCIe 5.0 x 16 bandwidth.
Seen as they lost performance after installing their NVMe, I'd hazard a guess PCIe 3.0 x 8 isn't sufficient bandwidth and is limiting the card.

Asus state this in their B450 Strix-I manual for their PCIe speeds. Note the only x16 on this board is the GPU, the others are x4.

"AMD B450 Chipset- 4 x SATA 6Gb/s ports* The M.2_2 slot shares bandwidth with PCIE x16. When M.2_2 slot runs in PCIE mode, the PCIE x16 slot will run at x8 mode.
** The M.2_2 slot is not supported for these CPUs."

If this is truly the case (will find out later tonight) then I think I'll throw in the towel and go AM5.
 
If this is truly the case (will find out later tonight) then I think I'll throw in the towel and go AM5.
I've done some digging.
Looks like your board, the MSI B450 Gaming Pro Carbon AC is perfectly fine.
Only the CPU can effect the PCIe x16 on that board as it isn't shared with any of the other slots like the Asus board I quoted.

See the tech info for your board here. The only thing that can effect the x16 is the type of CPU.

This means the installation of the new drive m2_2 shouldn't be the cause.
 
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If this is truly the case (will find out later tonight) then I think I'll throw in the towel and go AM5.
If you do this make sure you research the motherboard carefully, I was unaware until I had some advice on here from @Tetras that a lot of am5 boards are lane limited. I bought the asrock nova which allows up to 5 nvme drives however asrock at moment seems to have a high level of 9800x3d chips dying so everyone day is a praying day for me.
 
If you do this make sure you research the motherboard carefully, I was unaware until I had some advice on here from @Tetras that a lot of am5 boards are lane limited. I bought the asrock nova which allows up to 5 nvme drives however asrock at moment seems to have a high level of 9800x3d chips dying so everyone day is a praying day for me.
I've got an Asrock Z790 with 5 x NVMe and the fifth NVMe M2 slot shares the PCIe 5.0 x 16 GPU lanes and halves it to x 8 if used.
This is why I thought their drop in performance may be due to using their additional slot.
Turns out their mobo, unlike some B450s, doesn't share the NVMe PCIe lanes with the GPU so it shouldn't be the issue.
 
I've done some digging.
Looks like your board, the MSI B450 Gaming Pro Carbon AC is perfectly fine.
Only the CPU can effect the PCIe x16 on that board as it isn't shared with any of the other slots like the Asus board I quoted.

See the tech info for your board here. The only thing that can effect the x16 is the type of CPU.

This means the installation of the new drive m2_2 shouldn't be the cause.

Interesting, OK thanks, gives me some hope it's some other conflict or driver bug. I'll continue trying!

EDIT: CPU is a Ryzen 5700X so still fairly reasonable + It's ran very well before, so there's definitely something odd going on since the reinstallation of Windows.
 
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I've got an Asrock Z790 with 5 x NVMe and the fifth NVMe M2 slot shares the PCIe 5.0 x 16 GPU lanes and halves it to x 8 if used.
This is why I thought their drop in performance may be due to using their additional slot.
Turns out their mobo, unlike some B450s, doesn't share the NVMe PCIe lanes with the GPU so it shouldn't be the issue.
So the nova simply disables the 2nd pcie slot if the 5th slot is used.

I only need 3 or 4 so am golden but lots of the latest am5 boards have trouble even with 3 drives which is pretty poor and in some ways false advertising
 
the XT been running sweet all day, hrs off cyberpunk to test it out, strange that possibly a little thing, whatever it was caused the issues, though still getting green screen boot till windows, that came after a crash, which was my fault, too much of a uv :cry:
 
the XT been running sweet all day, hrs off cyberpunk to test it out, strange that possibly a little thing, whatever it was caused the issues, though still getting green screen boot till windows, that came after a crash, which was my fault, too much of a uv :cry:
Does sound like it could have been a power issue from the rail on the PSU just not giving quite enough juice. Glad it's all sorted and now enjoy one of AMD's best recent cards.
 
ive spent hours today messing about with over clocking and undervolting and testing in steel nomad, superposition and timespy
still cant quite get to 30 000 in super position [best i managed was 29682] but managed 7436 in steel nomad
-65mv
+35mhz
2548mhz on the memory fast timings
+10% power limit
and the fans cranked up a fair bit lol
 
your's is fine
Top M2_1 NVME is gen5x4, M2_3 is Gen44x, M2_2 is Gen3 or 2xSATA ports ( either NVME or SATA, can't use both)
Then you also have separate 2x SATA ports
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not sure if this works but this is vaguely what my rig looks like atm its a wip obviously
and I've swapped the 2 exhaust fans for one 3000 rpm one as the top one just seemed to be pushing out cold air rather than hot so I can only assume that fresh cool air was bypassing the main heat emitting components and being ejected via the top fan so replaced both with one higher rpm version seems to run nice and cool as is.
debating adding the leftover pair as additional intake but Il test that out i guess at a later point cable management is probably a bigger priority lol its pretty bad atm but il get that sorted
probably offend a lot of you with how badly I've got everything but hey it does actually work lol
 
I've done some digging.
Looks like your board, the MSI B450 Gaming Pro Carbon AC is perfectly fine.
Only the CPU can effect the PCIe x16 on that board as it isn't shared with any of the other slots like the Asus board I quoted.

See the tech info for your board here. The only thing that can effect the x16 is the type of CPU.

This means the installation of the new drive m2_2 shouldn't be the cause.

So I moved Black Ops 6 over to my main 1TB nvme in slot 1 and removed the slot 2 nvme. Bizarrely the game did run better but I'm still lower on fps compared to where I was pre reinstalling Windows yesterday.

Excuse the crappy picture, the left is benchmark results now, the right is before the machine got wiped and when I first got the card. Everything is identical settings wise, only the card is noticeably slower now than it was.



On the plus side, no crashes at all, fixed one problem but stuck with poor performance.

I'm getting very tempted to return it at this point and go back to nvidia, I may just be unlucky but AMD graphics cards have always been crap for me, flaky, unreliable and full of quirks and this one is just the same. I've had this card a week now and done almost no gaming and spent most of my evenings faffing about trying to get it working properly :(
 
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So I moved Black Ops 6 over to my main 1TB nvme in slot 1 and removed the slot 2 nvme. Bizarrely the game did run better but I'm still lower on fps compared to where I was pre reinstalling Windows yesterday.

Excuse the crappy picture, the left is benchmark results now, the right is before the machine got wiped and when I first got the card. Everything is identical settings wise, only the card is noticeably slower now than it was.



On the plus side, no crashes at all, fixed one problem but stuck with poor performance.

I'm getting very tempted to return it at this point and go back to nvidia, I may just be unlucky but AMD graphics cards have always been crap for me, flaky, unreliable and full of quirks and this one is just the same. I've had this card a week now and done almost no gaming and spent most of my evenings faffing about trying to get it working properly :(

Do you have rebar enabled?
 
So I moved Black Ops 6 over to my main 1TB nvme in slot 1 and removed the slot 2 nvme. Bizarrely the game did run better but I'm still lower on fps compared to where I was pre reinstalling Windows yesterday.

Excuse the crappy picture, the left is benchmark results now, the right is before the machine got wiped and when I first got the card. Everything is identical settings wise, only the card is noticeably slower now than it was.



On the plus side, no crashes at all, fixed one problem but stuck with poor performance.

I'm getting very tempted to return it at this point and go back to nvidia, I may just be unlucky but AMD graphics cards have always been crap for me, flaky, unreliable and full of quirks and this one is just the same. I've had this card a week now and done almost no gaming and spent most of my evenings faffing about trying to get it working properly :(
I'm in a similar situation, bought new hardware and spent almost all my time since fitting it troubleshooting issues.
 
So I moved Black Ops 6 over to my main 1TB nvme in slot 1 and removed the slot 2 nvme. Bizarrely the game did run better but I'm still lower on fps compared to where I was pre reinstalling Windows yesterday.

Excuse the crappy picture, the left is benchmark results now, the right is before the machine got wiped and when I first got the card. Everything is identical settings wise, only the card is noticeably slower now than it was.



On the plus side, no crashes at all, fixed one problem but stuck with poor performance.

I'm getting very tempted to return it at this point and go back to nvidia, I may just be unlucky but AMD graphics cards have always been crap for me, flaky, unreliable and full of quirks and this one is just the same. I've had this card a week now and done almost no gaming and spent most of my evenings faffing about trying to get it working properly :(
I don't think this is a normal AMD experience. I moved from an RTX 3070 to a 3090 and had issues, but moving from the 3090 to the 7900 XTX caused me no issues. Same as the XTX to 9070 XT move. I had the XTX for just over 2 years and the only problem I had was Hell Divers 2. That was more game related than GPU though.

I think you've just been unlucky like I was when I swapped from a 3070 to 3090. That should have been smooth sailing as both the same gen but I'd get random crashes in games. I almost sent it back thinking it was a faulty card. It was a shader issue in the end.

I've been gaming happily on my XT since day 1 with a huge undervolt and overclock, as have most of the owners in here. I think considering how many GPUs AMD has sold the issue count is minimal in comparison to the 50 series.
 
I've done some digging.
Looks like your board, the MSI B450 Gaming Pro Carbon AC is perfectly fine.
Only the CPU can effect the PCIe x16 on that board as it isn't shared with any of the other slots like the Asus board I quoted.

See the tech info for your board here. The only thing that can effect the x16 is the type of CPU.

This means the installation of the new drive m2_2 shouldn't be the cause.
This worries me now damn.. using the 2nd slot as well. And knowing my luck it will be the case.. got an gigabyte aorus b450 elite v2
 
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