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NVIDIA RTX 50 SERIES - (PRE)ORDER DISCUSSION **NO COMPETITOR HINTING**

Eddie99 said:
By 'on a budget' I mean not able to upgrade to the best components every generation without giving the cost a second thought. Did you stop gaming in between your last build? If someone were to get a 5090 now and upgrade in 8 years it would be a bad strategy, they'd have a higher average performance by getting a lower tier card and upgrading in between.
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Was on and off and the games I played didn’t require lots of power. But that’s changed and I’m finding myself not wanting to play certain games without the best settings I can. I’ve also gotten into my editing again and such with travel videos and my drone and looking to do much more with it so need a much more capable machine these days.
 
Caracus2k said:
Hopefully the Ai stuff calms down
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Doesn't look it.

I'd bet they will have something better for the 6XXX with the node change, as a default consequence. Stock wise... wouldn't bet on it?
 
Caracus2k said:
A Zotac card, in stock for £800 more than I paid, at launch, for a zotac 4090 is still a huge nope from me.

Hopefully the Ai stuff calms down and Nvidia remember who made their company successful in the first place and come back with something better for the '6000' series.
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Can’t see it, no reason to. Horse has bolted, they’ve seen the big bucks elsewhere
 
It's probably just hope but '90' series cards selling for going on £3,000 for not always top end model and the not really '80' series cards below them (massively cut down from the 90 series) for circa £1,200 isn't really a sustainable PC eco system. I could half justify the extreme cost of 4090 because it was so much faster than both the previous generation and anything else from the same generation (perversely offering some of the best performance/ per £ ratio of any 4000 series card) it's clear now that the '5000' series has done next to nothing to actually improve on the architecture of the previous generation. They've just taken an already big and sometimes teetering on dangerously power intensive card (especially considering what they expect of the power connector for it) and made it even bigger and jacked up the actual typical price far in excess of any % improvement gained. If the 5090 was a true 'Halo' card more akin to a Titan of days past its price might make more sense for the small 'price is pretty much no object if I'm getting the current best crowd' but the 5080 being so far behind means, there's a huge gap where a top end (but now quite 'halo' card should be).

I do think, at least for Nvidia, that the AI bubble will somewhat burst as new companies get in on the market. Hopefully AMD can continue to get their act together more and return to being a more viable alternative to Nvidia across a wider performance range.

Either that or more of us will have to hang onto our graphics cards a lot longer and dev's might actually have to start spending more time optimising their products to get more out of existing hardware again!
 
Caracus2k said:
It's probably just hope but '90' series cards selling for going on £3,000 for not always top end model and the not really '80' series cards below them (massively cut down from the 90 series) for circa £1,200 isn't really a sustainable PC eco system. I could half justify the extreme cost of 4090 because it was so much faster than both the previous generation and anything else from the same generation (perversely offering some of the best performance/ per £ ratio of any 4000 series card) it's clear now that the '5000' series has done next to nothing to actually improve on the architecture of the previous generation. They've just taken an already big and sometimes teetering on dangerously power intensive card (especially considering what they expect of the power connector for it) and made it even bigger and jacked up the actual typical price far in excess of any % improvement gained. If the 5090 was a true 'Halo' card more akin to a Titan of days past its price might make more sense for the small 'price is pretty much no object if I'm getting the current best crowd' but the 5080 being so far behind means, there's a huge gap where a top end (but now quite 'halo' card should be).

I do think, at least for Nvidia, that the AI bubble will somewhat burst as new companies get in on the market. Hopefully AMD can continue to get their act together more and return to being a more viable alternative to Nvidia across a wider performance range.

Either that or more of us will have to hang onto our graphics cards a lot longer and dev's might actually have to start spending more time optimising their products to get more out of existing hardware again!
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If AI demand continues and huge farms are updated every generation surely at some point we end up with a great second hand market for gamers.
 
Awahwah said:
I’m happy with mine as I’m sure you will be happy with yours.
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Just installed and ran a few benches, played a few games. Was expecting this, but it's not extraordinarily, materially better than my 9070xt in games. I didn't buy it for immediate gratification, however. I bought it for longevity and running a homebrew app doing inference with LLMs.

Edit: I should be grateful as there's not a hint or whisper of coil whine on this card. I haven't had a top-end card that hasn't had coil whine since maybe Fermi.
 
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...Is it normal for a card you've pre-ordered to get listed for sale on the store when you're still waiting on a dispatch? Asking for a friend
 
I had the Zotac 5090 in my basket but just couldn't justify the cost seeing as (yes assuming they were actually in stock!) you could purchase a 5090FE and a 5080FE for almost the same price.

I ended up grabbing a near-MSRP 5080 for now and I'll keep an eye out for another 5090FE drop.

Do you reckon my EVGA 850W G2 Gold PSU will be OK for a 5080?
 
Mr Plow said:
I had the Zotac 5090 in my basket but just couldn't justify the cost seeing as (yes assuming they were actually in stock!) you could purchase a 5090FE and a 5080FE for almost the same price.

I ended up grabbing a near-MSRP 5080 for now and I'll keep an eye out for another 5090FE drop.

Do you reckon my EVGA 850W G2 Gold PSU will be OK for a 5080?
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That PSU will undoubtedly be good with a 5080.
 
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