NVIDIA RTX 50 SERIES - (PRE)ORDER DISCUSSION **NO COMPETITOR HINTING**

[Joxeon]

its good to see some 5090 stock come in but still way off MSRP by a good £300+

meanwhile the US $ is falling vs £ Sterling....

I'm not anti-OcUK btw I appreciate they are a retailer in a controlled market of controlled supply and demand just saying it like it is, others are no better many are worse...

Just don’t buy them. Look what’s happened to the other Nvidia cards especially the 5070 when people didn’t buy.

Even at the MSRP the 5090 isn’t particularly exciting so not sure why people are falling over themselves to pay more anyway, frankly I’d be embarrassed getting ripped off, paying more than 2k for what is probably the worse generational uplift from a flagship in Nvidia’s history.

 

[Azrael1]

I think its fascinating the 5090 tech and power. I really want one but I am patient willing to wait a year or 2.

 

[Buckster]

whats a good max CPU and GPU game or 3dmark test to use to see worse case Power draw please ?

I'm trying to work out what GPU I can get away with without having to upgrade PSU - 550W Corsair RM550x - 7800x3d, 64gb DDR5 - 2xNVME, 2xSSD, 2x3.5 drives

I tried Port Royal - max draw from my 3060ti is 205W, and from the wall the computer whilst running Port Royal is pulling 300W

I'm thinking a 5070 at max draw of 257w vs the 3060ti of 205W would easily be doable

and that a 5070Ti at max draw of 300w - is possible

I think it helps that the 7800x3d in my system really doesn't use much power at all

 

[RCM]

whats a good max CPU and GPU game or 3dmark test to use to see worse case Power draw please ?

I'm trying to work out what GPU I can get away with without having to upgrade PSU - 550W Corsair RM550x - 7800x3d, 64gb DDR5 - 2xNVME, 2xSSD, 2x3.5 drives

I tried Port Royal - max draw from my 3060ti is 205W, and from the wall the computer whilst running Port Royal is pulling 300W

I'm thinking a 5070 at max draw of 257w vs the 3060ti of 205W would easily be doable

and that a 5070Ti at max draw of 300w - is possible

I think it helps that the 7800x3d in my system really doesn't use much power at all

You really would be pushing your luck with a 5070Ti on a 550w PSU. If you are even considering buying a £730+ GPU then factor in another £100 or so for a better PSU.

Loads of GPU wattage calculators online for you to play around with.

 

[Buckster]

You really would be pushing your luck with a 5070Ti on a 550w PSU. If you are even considering buying a £730+ GPU then factor in another £100 or so for a better PSU.

Loads of GPU wattage calculators online for you to play around with.

true and I agree would probably be pushing luck

I just thought the calculations online for power use tend to be a bit pessimistic - therefore a real world worse case - with a known 205W on my 3060ti would give me how much spare so to speak

just thought I think more buffer than I thought I think it is power/efficiency = power draw from wall

therefore if 90% efficient and drawing 300W - then actually the PC is only drawing 270W out of 550W

as in theoretically if you used all of the 550W capacity - you'd be pulling 611W from the wall

ok you wouldn't want to go right up to 550W obviously but say if you assumed 450W internal power draw should be absolutely fine - thats another 180W over an above the current draw with the 3060ti

 

[alec]

whats a good max CPU and GPU game or 3dmark test to use to see worse case Power draw please ?

I'm trying to work out what GPU I can get away with without having to upgrade PSU - 550W Corsair RM550x - 7800x3d, 64gb DDR5 - 2xNVME, 2xSSD, 2x3.5 drives

I tried Port Royal - max draw from my 3060ti is 205W, and from the wall the computer whilst running Port Royal is pulling 300W

I'm thinking a 5070 at max draw of 257w vs the 3060ti of 205W would easily be doable

and that a 5070Ti at max draw of 300w - is possible

I think it helps that the 7800x3d in my system really doesn't use much power at all

yeah, with that CPU you have more headroom.
Remember that rated PSU power is DC, so it can go higher than 550W from the wall AC.
But also remember GPUs could spike power beyond their rating. Depends on PSU whether it triggers overcurrent protection

I would consider 5070Ti on that

 

[Rogueywon]

yeah, with that CPU you have more headroom.
Remember that rated PSU power is DC, so it can go higher than 550W from the wall AC.
But also remember GPUs could spike power beyond their rating. Depends on PSU whether it triggers overcurrent protection

I would consider 5070Ti on that

The point on spikes is well made. I'd ordinarily recommend a 9070XT over a 5070Ti, but there seems to be evidence that the transients are pretty spiky on the 9070XT.

 

[Buckster]

yeah, with that CPU you have more headroom.
Remember that rated PSU power is DC, so it can go higher than 550W from the wall AC.
But also remember GPUs could spike power beyond their rating. Depends on PSU whether it triggers overcurrent protection

I would consider 5070Ti on that

thankyou and please see my extra post above ref DC

and good point ref power spikes thankyou

 

[Buckster]

The point on spikes is well made. I'd ordinarily recommend a 9070XT over a 5070Ti, but there seems to be evidence that the transients are pretty spiky on the 9070XT.

thankyou and yes I thought a 9070 even was a step too far let alone a 9070xt

although to be honest a 9070/9070xt plus new PSU wouldn't be too bad cost wise

I know a new PSU is "only" £100 or so but if not needed and on top of expensive GPUs anyway - it makes an expensive GPU upgrade even more expensive !

 

[RCM]

true and I agree would probably be pushing luck

I just thought the calculations online for power use tend to be a bit pessimistic - therefore a real world worse case - with a known 205W on my 3060ti would give me how much spare so to speak

just thought I think more buffer than I thought I think it is power/efficiency = power draw from wall

therefore if 90% efficient and drawing 300W - then actually the PC is only drawing 270W out of 550W

as in theoretically if you used all of the 550W capacity - you'd be pulling 611W from the wall

ok you wouldn't want to go right up to 550W obviously but say if you assumed 450W internal power draw should be absolutely fine - thats another 180W over an above the current draw with the 3060ti

PSU calculators do tend to give a worst case scenario when all components are being used fully, but then that's what you want from your PSU - to be able to easily handle the worst case scenario in power usage plus any possible spikes.

A 5070Ti might be ok (perhaps even with a bit of undervolting) but if it's not, you have defeated the object of the exercise and will be laying out extra money you didn't want

 

[Lyorian]

We had over 1000 in, down to under 100, its proven very popular and another 1000 is due by end of this week, it is my job to try and keep things in stock.
Why we never run out of 9800X3D is there not much interest in that either? (We sell around 2-3k units a month)

When I was looking at chips before I decided to go for the 9950X3D and everyone was complaining of the 9800 being sold out. I was very surprised to see OC always stocked of it and even at MSRP tbh

 

[Absolutely Clueless]

When I was looking at chips before I decided to go for the 9950X3D and everyone was complaining of the 9800 being sold out. I was very surprised to see OC always stocked of it and even at MSRP tbh

No retailer had the 9800X3D at MSRP (£450) for several months. Only within the last month or two has it hit MSRP. Pretty insane for a CPU to be scalped by every single retailer.

 

[Lyorian]

No retailer had the 9800X3D at MSRP (£450) for several months. Only within the last month or two has it hit MSRP. Pretty insane for a CPU to be scalped by every single retailer.

Yeah I for some reason thought the MSRP was 479-- but you're right. But OC had the lowest price I could find, this was back in Feb going into March

 

[JustHappy]

No retailer had the 9800X3D at MSRP (£450) for several months. Only within the last month or two has it hit MSRP. Pretty insane for a CPU to be scalped by every single retailer.

To be absolutely fair, I got my 9800x3d for £450 from OCUK delivered in November 2024. I ordered around 3 weeks earlier though.

 

[Absolutely Clueless]

To be absolutely fair, I got my 9800x3d for £450 from OCUK delivered in November 2024. I ordered around 3 weeks earlier though.

If you ordered around launch i think you were ok. But all retailers pretty much instantly upped the price to £500 and it sat there for a long time. Pretty poor launch imo. Expect the 10800X3D to be the same, or worse, if it is 2nm with solid performance gains.

 

[JustHappy]

If you ordered around launch i think you were ok. But all retailers pretty much instantly upped the price to £500 and it sat there for a long time. Pretty poor launch imo. Expect the 10800X3D to be the same, or worse, if it is 2nm with solid performance gains.

I remember the guys with the stupid logo asking £550 for it. You are right, I ordered on launch day.

 

[alec]

thankyou and please see my extra post above ref DC

and good point ref power spikes thankyou

TPU includes 20ms spike data. This is GPU only power

And I think GamersNexus goes in detail about spikes in their reviews, not sure if for all cards

 

[CaptainRAVE]

Heh, I wonder during which hours I was gaming.



Loving the 5090 though. Cool, quiet, powerful. It’s been a long time since I’ve owned the top GPU available.

I need to try Indiana jones next with path tracing. Also curious to check out Cyberpunk since I last played that on PS5.

 

[BS Dave]

Heh, I wonder during which hours I was gaming.

Loving the 5090 though. Cool, quiet, powerful. It’s been a long time since I’ve owned the top GPU available.

I need to try Indiana jones next with path tracing. Also curious to check out Cyberpunk since I last played that on PS5.

Looks like you had a nice 10 hour session!!

 

[ExcitableBoyUK]

Heh, I wonder during which hours I was gaming.



Loving the 5090 though. Cool, quiet, powerful. It’s been a long time since I’ve owned the top GPU available.

I need to try Indiana jones next with path tracing. Also curious to check out Cyberpunk since I last played that on PS5.

You must try cyberpunk on it. Incredible game.

I am playing with max settings and path tracing and am getting 70fps without any frame generation on my 5090