9070XT vs 5070Ti - FSR4 and DLSS4

[Gangster]

I really need to clear something up before I go ahead and decide which to buy.

The 9070XT £650 is similiar performance (raw) to the 5070Ti* £730, however when it comes to using FSR4 and DLSS4 Nvidia is more available for games than AMD?

So if I didn't care about upscaling, the 9070XT is a no brainer because it is £80 cheaper and offers the same performance but if I want to make use of upscaling I should do Nvdia because of the support in many games?

I'm looking at playing in 4K, so think I need all the help I can get?

*Don't quote me on that, but from the research I have been doing (have not bought a new pc in YEARS) and wanting to get back into it.

Sorry if it has been done to death within threads but I could do with some final confirmation so I can go ahead and buy.

 

[Bidley]

You can add FSR4 to DLSS games with Optiscaler.

Depends what games you're going to play. Myself, I'd get the 9070xt. It seems easier to get a £650 9070xt than it is to get a £730 5070ti. The 9070xt will be a better built card as AIBs have had to create a tier below their historical MSRP tier for 5070ti to get to £730.

 

[Gangster]

You can add FSR4 to DLSS games with Optiscaler.

Depends what games you're going to play. Myself, I'd get the 9070xt. It seems easier to get a £650 9070xt than it is to get a £730 5070ti. The 9070xt will be a better built card as AIBs have had to create a tier below their historical MSRP tier for 5070ti to get to £730.

I'm looking at things like flight simulator 2024, overwatch, call of duty - for now. Does optiscaler make it easy to enable like a click and done and it works like it should?

I really don't to be messing around and want to game instead of mess around with settings.

Thanks

 

[Bidley]

I'm looking at things like flight simulator 2024, overwatch, call of duty - for now. Does optiscaler make it easy to enable like a click and done and it works like it should?

I really don't to be messing around and want to game instead of mess around with settings.

Thanks

I've not used Optiscaler yet, but others here have. There is an element of faff involved. I would look up the Optiscaler Github. It doesn't look so bad, in fact it's less faff than Nvidia's drivers...

COD has FSR4 natively and runs best on AMD, so you're ok there. MSFS I'm not familiar with, Overwatch would probably run on a Gameboy

 

[Poneros]

If you don't want to faff about then don't go with AMD. Optiscaler doesn't always work and shouldn't be used with online games either given its modifications. Unless you're really desperately needing that £80 do yourself the favour of sticking with the tried & true option - Nvidia.

 

[Kirkatron]

For COD and MS FS 2024 the 9070XT is a big jump in performance to the 5070 Ti. In MS FS 2025 its mins are as high as the 5070 Ti's average.

These are the games you play. It makes sense to get the card that performs the best for what you play. Saving £80 and getting decent performance gains is a bonus.

 

[Firegod]

In case it helps.

Latest AMD FSR 2, 3, 4, & Radeon Anti-Lag 2 Supported Games List

As some of you may know, we have been highlighting the latest updates to AMD FidelityFX™ Super Resolution1 technology over the last couple of months. AMD FSR transforms gaming experiences with massive and responsive framerates in supported games using a combination of super resolution temporal...

community.amd.com

EDIT: Interestingly this article lists MS FS 2024 as coming with FSR4. Guess it could be a typo?

AMD FSR 4 games list, titles that will work day one on the Radeon RX 9070 XT

Call of Duty, Space Marine 2, The Last of Us Part I, Marvel Rivals, and more. Here's the complete day one list of FSR 4 compatible games.

www.tweaktown.com

 

[Kirkatron]

EDIT: Interestingly this article lists MS FS 2024 as coming with FSR4. Guess it could be a typo?

AMD FSR 4 games list, titles that will work day one on the Radeon RX 9070 XT

Call of Duty, Space Marine 2, The Last of Us Part I, Marvel Rivals, and more. Here's the complete day one list of FSR 4 compatible games.

www.tweaktown.com

Isn't this because all FSR3.1 games can be upgraded to use FSR4 with AMD's Adrenalin SW? MS FS 2024 is an FSR3.1 game and therefore should be able to be run with FSR4.
I've not tried this yet but AMD themselves stated all 3.1 games will work with 4.

 

[stuartharrison]

I'm looking at things like flight simulator 2024, overwatch, call of duty - for now. Does optiscaler make it easy to enable like a click and done and it works like it should?

I really don't to be messing around and want to game instead of mess around with settings.

Thanks

The cheap 5070ti's look tempting but I'd find out how noisy they are.
My 9070xt pure is whisper quiet.
I've used optiscaler in cyberpunk and followed a video tutorial step by step to do it. You should be able to set it up and leave it.
It was straightforward following the tutorial, but you wouldn't be able to set it up without one. (At least first time)
Nice to see it's faster in FS 24 than a ti.

 

[tommybhoy]

Going forwards FSR4 should be in all titles going forwards except certain NV sponsored titles-ironically NV/Techtubers made a fuss when AMD 'blocked' DLSS titles.

Optiscaler is easy enough, takes about a minute when you get the hang of it, but you can't use it on MP games in case of a ban(to be clear COD has FSR4 it doesn't require optiscaler)

Although it's not as if NV users haven't had to in the past and still usimg multiple tools to get DLSS working at its best with DLSS Swaper/Nvidia inspector.

If you want to launch most games up till now and tick either FSR or DLSS, then pay the premium for NV.

Taking into account all of the entry 70tis have trash coolers(gibbo has stated Nv ~aibs have stripped back to bare minimum-think cooling to hit pp's on the entry level GPUs)= entry 9070XT has better cooling than entry 5070ti.

AMDs drivers and interface just work.

NV drivers however, are at an all time low, the new interface is buggy or just doesn't work, Black screens, ctd when you enable DLSS, DLSS Frame Gen stutters, Gsync stutters, turning on your screen stutters, I could go on the list really is that long, but don't take my word for it:

**THE NVIDIA DRIVERS THREAD**

just got 5070ti new drivers seems fine so far

forums.overclockers.co.uk

 

[Finners]

I have a 9070XT on pre order as I've not had an all AMD system since the early 00's but the 5070Ti is tempting me for a hassle free experience I'll admit.

I'm just not seeing prices anywhere near £730 though, more like £800 which I'm just not happy to pay for a mid range card.

Edit*

I'll take that back, just looked at the shop and see them for £730. Not a card I'd personally go for as it seems to be a bit noisy and hot but £730 does seem to be an entry price for 5070ti now

 

[Gangster]

For COD and MS FS 2024 the 9070XT is a big jump in performance to the 5070 Ti. In MS FS 2025 its mins are as high as the 5070 Ti's average.

These are the games you play. It makes sense to get the card that performs the best for what you play. Saving £80 and getting decent performance gains is a bonus.

Thanks for this. What about with DLSS 4 enabled though? Are there any there that show the difference?

 

[Kirkatron]

Thanks for this. What about with DLSS 4 enabled though? Are there any there that show the difference?

The gap gets even bigger in COD, and that's to the 5080, the 5070 Ti would be even further behind.

I imagine it would be similar for MS FS 2024 as it also supports FSR 4 through the FSR 3.1 upgrading in the AMD Adrenalin SW. FSR 3.1 got added in the latest update so ignore any older posts.
MS FS 2024 also supports fluid motion frames 2.1 with up to 2.8x frame gen if frame gen is your cup of tea.

 

[varkanoid]

MSFS 2024 - Support all new technology graphics - FSR3?

Ok, I was able to enable FSR 3.1 without any issues, including Frame Generation. It’s super simple: download OptiScaler HERE download Fakenvapi HERE open the folder with FligthSimulator.exe rename nvngx_dlss.dll to nvngx.dll edit nvngx.ini file and modify OverrideNvapiDLL=true (from auto)...

forums.flightsimulator.com

 

[Rup]

AMD have to whitelist FSR 3.1 to 4 in driver upgrade else wont work.
Best option is optiscaler which didnt usto work for me but with latest upgrades now does in cyberpunk. That does have FSR 3 but's terrible, FSR 4 way better.

 

[BS Dave]

Look at the games you want to play then decide. FSR 3 and 3.1 are way worse than DLSS 3, so you'll be using native res plus TAA in those games vs DLSS quality or DLAA which will give either better performance or better image quality. Avatar, Doom, Starfield don't support FSR 4 or optiscaler.

FSR 4 is great but Nvidia still edge it in RT (grunt and future feature sets), encoding for VR, and how many games natively support DLSS. AMD does have less driver overhead though. My G-sync monitor has a range down to 30, and that and all the above pluses gave me looking at a 5080 even though it is a lot more than a 9070xt

 

[CAT-THE-FIFTH]

I'm looking at things like flight simulator 2024, overwatch, call of duty - for now. Does optiscaler make it easy to enable like a click and done and it works like it should?

I really don't to be messing around and want to game instead of mess around with settings.

Thanks

Many of the COD games have run better on AMD for years. An RX7700XT matches an RTX4070 in Black Ops 6:

Call of Duty: Black Ops 6 Performance Benchmark Review - AMD FTW

Call of Duty Black Ops 6 comes with a highly entertaining single-player campaign that feels like a James Bond movie. Graphics are good, too, with very high production value. In our performance review, we'll look at the game's graphics quality, VRAM consumption, and how it runs across a range of...

www.techpowerup.com

https://en.gamegpu.com/action-/-fps-/-tps/call-of-duty-black-ops-6-test-gpu-cpu-2024

An RX7900XT is faster than an RTX4080 Super in those reviews.

 

[Kirkatron]

Look at the games you want to play then decide. FSR 3 and 3.1 are way worse than DLSS 3, so you'll be using native res plus TAA in those games vs DLSS quality or DLAA which will give either better performance or better image quality. Avatar, Doom, Starfield don't support FSR 4 or optiscaler.

FSR 4 is great but Nvidia still edge it in RT (grunt and future feature sets), encoding for VR, and how many games natively support DLSS. AMD does have less driver overhead though. My G-sync monitor has a range down to 30, and that and all the above pluses gave me looking at a 5080 even though it is a lot more than a 9070xt

The op stated the games they play, MS Flight Sim 24, COD BO6, Overwatch 2 and the 9070XT is way better than the 5070Ti in them. They state the games in their second post.

 

[Bidley]

I think driver support is a consideration. Nearly 3 months of Blackwell and the drivers are still broken for many people.

It boggles the mind that the 5070ti is seen as such a win at £730. I would only consider the 5070ti if the two cards were the same price.

 

[ICDP]

I think driver support is a consideration. Nearly 3 months of Blackwell and the drivers are still broken for many people.

It boggles the mind that the 5070ti is seen as such a win at £730. I would only consider the 5070ti if the two cards were the same price.

This is what reviewers have been saying since the 9070 and 9070 XT launched. They make the more expensive Nvidia offerings look like very poor value.

There’s a reason the Lackwell GPUs are getting closer to MSRP and it isn’t because Nvidia are flooding the market. It’s because price gouging retailers and AIBs have had to do a reality check.

Though the RDNA4 prices are way over MSRP compared to Nvidia at this stage and need to come down. AMDs fake MSRP showed how much BS Hank Azore just spouts at this stage. There has not been a single RDNA4 GPU available at MSRP since the handful on release day.

Despite this they still manage to make the 5070ti look overpriced.