Why aren't vegans eating the food they ask for?

Status
Not open for further replies.
jpaul said:
just when Lewis needed a side-gig to keep him in the (Monacco) state he is accustomed - Jamie will always have the tv.
Click to expand...
He's got about $300 million, I doubt he'll be down the foodbank any time soon. As ever, I feel sorry for the usually poorly paid staff in these situations. Restaurants closing all over the place currently.
 
If you look at the actual stats for veganism, even just Google searches are going down over time and there was a study by a pro vegan group (Faunalytics) where they found that 84% of people who try vegan/vegetarian quit within 5 years and 90% of them sited improved health when returning to eating meat.

You have to be really really on-point nutrition wise to make veganism even vaguely "work" and the vast majority of people don't have the bandwidth to micro manage their intake to that degree.

Add to that that the vast majority of "vegan food" in the supermarket is ultra processed anyway and people looking to vegan/vegetarian diet for health aren't going to be buying it anyway.
 
andybird123 said:
If you look at the actual stats for veganism, even just Google searches are going down over time and there was a study by a pro vegan group (Faunalytics) where they found that 84% of people who try vegan/vegetarian quit within 5 years and 90% of them sited improved health when returning to eating meat.

You have to be really really on-point nutrition wise to make veganism even vaguely "work" and the vast majority of people don't have the bandwidth to micro manage their intake to that degree.

Add to that that the vast majority of "vegan food" in the supermarket is ultra processed anyway and people looking to vegan/vegetarian diet for health aren't going to be buying it anyway.
Click to expand...
I would say most "good vegan food" like a lot of things costs a lot more money, any vegans I have met have all said they just preferr to **** everything from scratch at home.
 
Have you ever seen a fat vegan @Diddums ?

And that's the problem... the simple truth is that they just don't eat very much - people are trying to sell food to the skinniest, most malnourished group of people in the UK - bad business idea!

Do you know who is a good business person, though - a guy by the name of Ronald McDonald. And what is the source of his business success, you ask?

Selling burgers, fries and milkshakes to fat Americans!

Dowie Business 101 - know your market. :D
 
Last edited:
dowie said:
Have you ever seen a fat vegan @Diddums ?

And that's the problem... the simple truth is that they just don't eat very much - people are trying to sell food to the skinniest, most malnourished group of people in the UK - bad business idea!

Do you know who is a good business person, though - a guy by the name of Ronald McDonald. And what is the source of his business success, you ask?

Selling burgers, fries and milkshakes to fat Americans!

Dowie Business 101 - know your market. :D
Click to expand...

Have you tried competing against Maccy's though? The market is already saturated in the fast food sector.

Vegan is just a grift to get money from thick wealthy people in a market which at the time was ripe for grifting. Now it has just ran its course.
 
adam cool dude said:
Have you tried competing against Maccy's though? The market is already saturated in the fast food sector.
Click to expand...

That is basically part of Dowie's know your market point :s you can rarely break into a market going toe to toe with a first move (unless you have massive capital and play a bit dirty to muscle them out).
 
I'm guessing it's mostly the processed vegan crap that is reduced and for good reason. It's processed rubbish as I said :cry:
 
adidan said:
If it wasn't worth it the supermarket wouldn't stock it. Business is business.
Click to expand...

Maybe, maybe not.

Sometimes a business plan involves giving something a go over X years instead of expecting instant results. Maybe it's not set in stone and gets adjusted too.

My local supermarket has been giving more shelf space to gluten free and vegetarian over the last 5 years or so.

Maybe this stuff gets by on massive shelf life and massive margin.
 
Hotwired said:
Maybe, maybe not.

Sometimes a business plan involves giving something a go over X years instead of expecting instant results. Maybe it's not set in stone and gets adjusted too.

My local supermarket has been giving more shelf space to gluten free and vegetarian over the last 5 years or so.

Maybe this stuff gets by on massive shelf life and massive margin.
Click to expand...
I wish there was more gluten free stuff, there's never enough.

Wish I didn't need it but unless I want to blow up like a balloon and destroy the toilet I just have to suck up the massive margins. :)
 
Hotwired said:
Maybe, maybe not.

Sometimes a business plan involves giving something a go over X years instead of expecting instant results. Maybe it's not set in stone and gets adjusted too.
Click to expand...

Pretty much this you reduce your margins of the stuff that sells well in return for giving something else a go. A bit like R&D. Experimenting with new markets etc.

At the least the stuff I was involved in the Vegan was making little to no money and was a drop in the ocean compared to what was already selling but was constantly launching new products to try new things.
 
Last edited:
Think the issue is we've reached peak food, globalization meant that pretty much every cuisine has been discovered and peddled by celebrity chefs.

Veganism and plantism was just a fad to sell books, to later gather dust as the masses returned to their meat troughs.
 
Diddums said:
You grow up
Click to expand...


tenordd.gif
 
Status
Not open for further replies.
Back
Top Bottom