depends how good the refreshments are! I'd be fuming if I was on the Jury and there was anyone in the room not happy to send them down.Judge has given instructions this morning. Jury to go out for deliberations. I don’t think they will take the rest of the day.
Two men found guilty of felling Sycamore Gap tree
Daniel Graham and Adam Carruthers have been found guilty by a jury at Newcastle Crown Court of causing criminal damage to the Sycamore Gap treewww.independent.co.uk
Sycamore Gap tree at Hadrian's Wall 'felled overnight'
- Thread starter Neil79
- Start date
Curious to know - "if" found guilty - what is your definition of a proper sentence?
To be fair they do have a point , me and the missus frequently visit other cities for a day out and a big part of the reason is for the restaurants, there’s restaurants in Carlisle but sometimes we just fancy a change - and tbh there’s not that many restaurants here that are great - it’s a small city with limited choice
I know loads of people who will think nothing of heading over to Newcastle / Gateshead for a meal , it’s pretty normal
Hanging would work but as they've cut the tree down I would hang them from it's a bit awkward.
During a storm though?
Depends on how bad the storm is in the area I’m driving I guess but loads of people do drive in storms so it’s not that far fetched
Don’t get me wrong I don’t think for one second they’re telling the truth about what they were actually doing but if a friend or acquaintance told me they had driven to Newcastle in a storm for a meal I wouldnt find it that out of the ordinary
Soldato
- Joined
- 4 Aug 2007
- Posts
- 22,396
- Location
- Wilds of suffolk
His Mrs had just had a baby as well don't forget
I get the getting out and going for something to eat thing, even if its meh at best, but its also a lot of hastle with a young one, bottle feeding so 3 hour round trip with food gets perilously close to needing to feed whilst out.
And thats ignoring the chances of getting held up etc.
I get the getting out and going for something to eat thing, even if its meh at best, but its also a lot of hastle with a young one, bottle feeding so 3 hour round trip with food gets perilously close to needing to feed whilst out.
And thats ignoring the chances of getting held up etc.
I would understand it if they were going somewhere nice but the destination was a shopping centre full of crappy chain restaurants. It would have been more believable if he’d said we were going shopping and for a bite to eat as driving some distance to a big shopping centre makes much more sense when actually shopping!
Soldato
- Joined
- 19 Oct 2002
- Posts
- 18,096
- Location
- Shakespeare’s County
I hope you are not “following him around”
Soldato
- Joined
- 11 May 2007
- Posts
- 9,203
- Location
- Surrey
Shouldn't be long now before a unanimous guilty verdict for both.
Soldato
- Joined
- 17 Sep 2006
- Posts
- 4,461
- Location
- Gloucestershire
and then a £20 fine and asked not to do it again.
They somehow haven’t decided after four hours. Gone home for the day.
www.bbc.co.uk
I think Graham is obviously guilty with the car on ANPR and photos and the video on his phone.
Carruthers is much more circumstantial unless there is something I’ve missed.
Two men guilty of felling world-famous Sycamore Gap tree
Daniel Graham, 39, and Adam Carruthers, 32, both from Cumbria, are each convicted of two counts of criminal damage.
www.bbc.co.uk
I think Graham is obviously guilty with the car on ANPR and photos and the video on his phone.
Carruthers is much more circumstantial unless there is something I’ve missed.
Going to be hilarious if they find Graham guilty and let the one who actually (most likely) cut the tree down off.They somehow haven’t decided after four hours. Gone home for the day.
Two men guilty of felling world-famous Sycamore Gap tree
Daniel Graham, 39, and Adam Carruthers, 32, both from Cumbria, are each convicted of two counts of criminal damage.
I think Graham is obviously guilty with the car on ANPR and photos and the video on his phone.
Carruthers is much more circumstantial unless there is something I’ve missed.
“I sentence you to hang…”
“OH MY GOD!”
“… out …”
“… phew… I was worried there…”
“… in Newcastle.” *gavel*
“NooOoOooOooOOOooooooo!!!!”
