Who has a WHOOP band and how are you getting on with it?

Replacement being sent out. Not a great first impression. I've also asked if they will extend the trial period as I've essentially lost a week.

Let the current one completely die, but as soon as it got some charge it went back into its stuck mode. Still won't pair.
 
With my disconnect issues over the weekend and earlier this week their Tech support sent me these steps on how to reconnect, certainly I had issues reconnecting mine without it having the charger connected, but was the opposite to yours no lights and just no life, a battery check showed green but no connection. Basically did step 5 (just following googled instructions before they sent it though) but putting the charged pack on, after 5 mins of messing it easily they popped up and connected showing a high charge so can't have been lower than 50-60% maximum.

Didn't put the info of my troubles in - sorry. Documenting here now! It felt typical - zero issues in 1.5 years then as soon as the 5.0 announced and my renewal approaching (July) I then had some! Really felt like a hardware/sensor bluetooth type issue. Seems to have sorted itself out now - so can't have been hardware, just some software burp and didn't coincide with any firmware or such, but my strap seems to be taking longer to charge from the puck than I'd usually expect. I could equally be ultra conscious about it... And the battery life seems ok still so don't think an issue with it going flat.

Saturday 10th I found my Whoop had disconnected middle of the afternoon. Didn't discover until Monday morning (OK, I was very hungover!). As I'd also dinked my phone screen and been messing with BT headphones I figured I'd just disconnected/unpaired it. Or it had overheated in the sun. Couldn't get it to pick up again until I charged it. It caught back up and wasn't missing any data, so hadn't run totally flat just figured it had needed more of a charge before it would do anything. But then the morning of Thursday 15th noticed the same - it had disconnected at some point on Tuesday overnight. Charging didn't make a difference this time and I had to go through removing it and re-pairing routine. It's all caught up and missing no data...​
Since then it's stayed connected with zero issues. Had to charge it this morning - was at 15% last night. Was tempted to run it flat but was still 11% this morning. Fully charged seemed to take longer than usual - over 4 hours. But isn't something I've tracked or taken much notice of before. So full charge Thursday daytime lasted me until Monday night/Tuesday morning. 4.5 to 5 days.

Still borderline ordering the 5.0 - guess I just should do it knowing my renewal is 2 months away. Had hoped to find a 'deal' to get a cheaper renewal (so then be able to go up to the MG) with all the backlash but they seem to have come out of it ok. Drat! :cry:
 
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Mine just arrived - pair instantly - 75% charged already.

Looks a touch smaller on the wrist - fully charging just now to test how long I get from it.

I like it already - telling me my healthspan age is 10 years younger than I am!! :D
 
Also the "gift" box was good - Wife's using my 4.0 for 2 months for free to see if she likes it or wants to keep it going. Nice idea. New strap, alcohol wipe, nice little box etc. Solid touch.
 
Nice. I've been informed mine is arriving today. What I don't understand about the gifting, when they subscribe, don't they go up to a 5.0 too and we're still left with 'electrical waste'? So, it's not so much about recycling, it's about bringing in new users and we still have the waste?
 
I like it already - telling me my healthspan age is 10 years younger than I am!! :D
Is that the MG with healthspan? Or tucked away in the app so my 4.0 will tell me somewhere...

Nice. I've been informed mine is arriving today. What I don't understand about the gifting, when they subscribe, don't they go up to a 5.0 too and we're still left with 'electrical waste'? So, it's not so much about recycling, it's about bringing in new users and we still have the waste?
Probably, really they'd be only interested in the new users. The 3.0 users didn't have to return their devices for 4.0's and ebay was full of them for a while.

Key is finding someone selling one, when they only did trial, so you get a 'spare' strap (almost worthless), but get a charging puck and a wrist band for next to nothing. I paid £40 for mine - back then chargers alone where £50 and plain straps £35-40

I tried some of the cheap knockoff £20 straps and not worth it, the clasp was too loose, then the end came off. Material was very similar to genuine, was quite impressed with that after reading lots of reviews from people finding straps faded or stretched. Got a refund. Bought a second hand 4.0 strap for £15, ended up being a 3.0 strap. Got a £10 refund from seller. Did fit, bit loose and undoing the clasp the hook would come off the bar so wasn't that secure. Could have bent the hook to fit it better... Bought a 4.0 genuine strap when they where on deals and felt I wanted the expense... So will try that fit on a 5.0!
 
Overnight review (so literally first impressions):

- HR is actually very accurate so far. Did a 10k run yesterday and a run/gym session this morning, both tracked with Garmin + HR chest strap. Data seemed very comparable. Hard to compare averages etc, as the activities auto detect on the Whoop, but the data and max HR data looked good.
- Hoping the strain score settles a bit! I'm already at 17 this morning (after the run/gym), and that seems high out of a max of 21. If I do a 5 hour ride on the weekend, I dread to think what it will say. I guess it's still 'learning' me a bit, and I'm hoping it figures out I (as many on here) do a lot more exercise than the average person.
- IF I bite the bullet and go for it, there's no way I'm sticking to a fabric band. It's still wet now from the post gym shower!
- Haven't got much more data yet as it's still learning.
- Sleep data seemed pretty comparable to Garmin sleep data (stages etc but not reading too much into that)

My main worry, not being able to see any data on it without an app, would be constantly wondering if the HR is tracking correctly, as essentially all of the main metrics seem to be based off that. But so far I'm actually quite impressed. Interested to see how it copes with the cycling commutes tomorrow. (and what it auto detects the activity as)
 
without an app, would be constantly wondering if the HR is tracking correctly
In my testing it was pretty accurate too*, so I don't bother with a chest strap when cycling. From the app, you can select to broadcast your HR and I select that for my head unit, so when cycling, you can keep an eye on what it's saying.

* eg Walking home last night I noticed my Pixel watch was saying my HR was about 117. 'That seems a bit high' I thought, went into Whoop app and it was saying about 89... I definitely trust my Whoop more than wrist based monitors (I have a bicep band)
 
Overnight review (so literally first impressions):

- HR is actually very accurate so far. Did a 10k run yesterday and a run/gym session this morning, both tracked with Garmin + HR chest strap. Data seemed very comparable. Hard to compare averages etc, as the activities auto detect on the Whoop, but the data and max HR data looked good.
- Hoping the strain score settles a bit! I'm already at 17 this morning (after the run/gym), and that seems high out of a max of 21. If I do a 5 hour ride on the weekend, I dread to think what it will say. I guess it's still 'learning' me a bit, and I'm hoping it figures out I (as many on here) do a lot more exercise than the average person.
- IF I bite the bullet and go for it, there's no way I'm sticking to a fabric band. It's still wet now from the post gym shower!
- Haven't got much more data yet as it's still learning.
- Sleep data seemed pretty comparable to Garmin sleep data (stages etc but not reading too much into that)

My main worry, not being able to see any data on it without an app, would be constantly wondering if the HR is tracking correctly, as essentially all of the main metrics seem to be based off that. But so far I'm actually quite impressed. Interested to see how it copes with the cycling commutes tomorrow. (and what it auto detects the activity as)
The strain score doesn't scale uniformly. That is to say doing 4 activities with a strain score of 5 won't add up to 20 for example. As you are tracking upwards you will find there is quite a gap between 17 , 18 and 19. I found it quite hard to get to 20, also running was always a much greater strain score than anything else I ever did so don't be too surprised if it scores your long cycle lower.

I found this an interesting read from a few years back. If these lads aren't hitting 21 then I doubt anyone is.
 
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I've not read that link yet, but did anyone see they put Carapaz's Whoop data on screen during a Giro stage a couple of days ago. This guy is cycling 200 odd km and waking up with a 90% score like it was nothing :cry:
I found it quite hard to get to 20
Yeah, I've managed 20.5 four or five times, I think, but never higher than that. What's the highest anyone has done? (tip: you can ask your Whoop AI things like 'How many times has my strain gone over 20?' or 'what's my highest strain score?') In fact, I just asked and I got a 20.6 back in 2023. It also tells me in the last 365 days I've gone over 20 5 times.

The Coach/AI is quite fun for this sort of thing. You start asking it 'One these days, what was my recovery score?' and I see I did all 20+ days on a recovery between 60% and 69%. I think ask my recovery on the day after and it varies from 23% to 55%. I mean, I say 'fun', but I guess I just like numbers :p
 
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Yeah they aren't normal humans those blokes. Talks about their recovery scores a bit more in the link I posted.
When you watch the TDF Netflix doc, it shows the team having a glass of wine each after a stage win. I presume that is just a symbolic sip for the camera and the riders don't drink? My recovery score takes a noticeable hit after only 1 drink in the evening.
 
Overnight review (so literally first impressions):

- HR is actually very accurate so far. Did a 10k run yesterday and a run/gym session this morning, both tracked with Garmin + HR chest strap. Data seemed very comparable. Hard to compare averages etc, as the activities auto detect on the Whoop, but the data and max HR data looked good.
- Hoping the strain score settles a bit! I'm already at 17 this morning (after the run/gym), and that seems high out of a max of 21. If I do a 5 hour ride on the weekend, I dread to think what it will say. I guess it's still 'learning' me a bit, and I'm hoping it figures out I (as many on here) do a lot more exercise than the average person.
- IF I bite the bullet and go for it, there's no way I'm sticking to a fabric band. It's still wet now from the post gym shower!
- Haven't got much more data yet as it's still learning.
- Sleep data seemed pretty comparable to Garmin sleep data (stages etc but not reading too much into that)

My main worry, not being able to see any data on it without an app, would be constantly wondering if the HR is tracking correctly, as essentially all of the main metrics seem to be based off that. But so far I'm actually quite impressed. Interested to see how it copes with the cycling commutes tomorrow. (and what it auto detects the activity as)
Speaking from my own experience, I found the HR a bit 'meh' - but really feel that's a personal thing - highly likely my longer steady efforts it was accurate but I didn't measure them, the shorter intense stuff I measured it on Zwift with, it wasn't close. Or not consistently out - so I'd lose the 'peaks' from short efforts. Recalling sort of things I was seeing: HR from chest strap at 150 - Whoop at 149, chest 170 - Whoop 160, HR at 180 - Whoop at 165. Just totally messed with my zones.

Strain is a weird one. Not many of my 'day-to-day' are below 12-13 score even with my short commute. The odd day I drive will be the only times I'm below 10. 'Zwift days' (Tuesday & Thursday intense 50-90 mins) I'm 16-17 score. Long social saturday club ride 3-4 hours 18-19. Throw in a bigger climb, or longer efforts I easily hit 20. An epic all day adventure... Only bit more.

But I've also hit over 20 more regularly doing a 18-19 club ride and then a bunch of DIY/home chores afterwards rather than a longer & harder ride. Even though it 'feels' like less fatigue.

Fabric strap dries loads quicker if you shower with it, then when getting dried take it off and squeeze it in towel. Or even clamping it with a towel while on my wrist to take the 'damp' feel out of it a little.

A 'rest' day for me (no riding) will be 7-8 strain due to home life stuffs - even on holiday in Florida for 14 days walking around disney every day for 10-15km my daily strains where below 10 (6.2-9.9). There's no way my normal day-to-day work days with 2x10min commutes where more tiring than that (physically) by strain score alone! Nevermind the mental strain. But I also banked a massive amount of extra sleep while on holiday too - easily another 2-3 hours extra per night!

If these lads aren't hitting 21 then I doubt anyone is.
Yeah but so much of it is conditioning isn't it... So their training scores are right up towards the same level or even higher, training so they can race like that and consistently perform without being absolutely crucified by fatigue for days afterwards.

If any of us put that effort in we'd smash to 21 score and not even reach half way, likely injured or at least wouldn't be able to do anything for several days afterwards. We dig ourselves deeper into a 'fatigue hole'.

I've not read that link yet, but did anyone see they put Carapaz's Whoop data on screen during a Giro stage a couple of days ago. This guy is cycling 200 odd km and waking up with a 90% score like it was nothing :cry:
Yeah but 'Recovery' score is a pure HRV measure. Guess another thing which sets them leagues apart from us! The training level and natural ability/genetics to still be recovering.
 
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I don't believe it is. It's at least five metrics - HRV, RHR, Skin Temp, SPO2 and respiratory rate. Pretty much all of which move negatively for me given a large effort the day before.

(I thought I was having Deja Vu with this reply... in fact, we have covered it before :cry: )
Ooooh haha yeah :D

My HRV today, the app since it updated last week or so tells you more if you press on it, the individual makeups along with their trends against average.

Mine today 64% after a good 'normal' thursday Zwift TTT but interrupted ~6h of sleep, is orange. HRV 129 which is up on monthly average of 82 (actually my highest this month). RHR 48 vs 47bpm avg for the month. 15.6 Respiratory Rate vs 15.5 avg for the month. So they're both close - the low sleep performance of 61% against my monthly average of 80% is the main contributor which has more than offset the high HRV. Whoops - dozed in front of the TV then couldn't get back to sleep for ages when I dragged myself to bed!
 
Well a longer commute to work, with a few hills, and commute home with a 7 min KOM effort (nailed it!), and I’m at 20 strain!

We’ll see what tomorrow brings after that.
 
Hmmmm still hoping it's 'learning me' as at the end of a 107 miles ride (at decent power throughout) and I'm at 20.7 strain. 'Only' 0.7 more than two commutes. I know it's not linear but seems a bit odd. Hoping it doesn't say I need a month off like Garmin normally does after a decent ride. (95 hours recovery according to that!)
 
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