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*** The AMD RDNA 4 Rumour Mill ***

Steam needs to read info better..

It should say AMD Radeon Graphics 128SP for Ryzen 7000 series.

GPU Name -Raphael
Architecture -RDNA 2.0
Foundry -TSMC
Process Size -5 nm
Transistors -3,400 million
Density -12.9M / mm²
Die Size -264 mm²
Chip Package -LGA-1718

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AMD Radeon Graphics 128SP Specs

AMD Raphael, 2200 MHz, 128 Cores, 8 TMUs, 8 ROPs
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When I got my 7800X3D a couple of weeks ago it was on by default, disabled it after a little testing of course, runs great for desktop use with 2 displays :)

I can use this when I flog my 3060 Ti, which wasnt an option with my previous 5800X3D.

I put together a 2200G system with my old AM4 board, for that on-board graphics chip it says AMD Radeon(TM) Vega 8 Graphics.
 
muon said:
New steam hardware survey update for May. We are now several months in.

1% = 1.3 million users.

AMD's pricing has resulted in their cards yet to make the list. £670+ for a 9070 XT.

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I'm sure someone will come along and say how the 9070 XT sold more than all nvidia cards combined, based on heresay.

The increases in the share of the new 5xxx cards is slow though. AMD will be even slower. AMD missed their chance to grab meaningful market share.
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I agree with this, had AMD much more MSRP cards available and kept the price under £600 for the 9070xt it would have sold much more, they are under dog and need to match features but be better on price. Missed opportunity as always with them, they do the hard part but can do the easy stuff.
 
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AMDPower said:
I agree with this, had AMD much more MSRP cards available and kept the price under £600 for the 9070xt it would have sold much more, they are under dog and need to match features but be better on price. Missed opportunity as always with them, they do the hard part but can do the easy stuff.
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Why should AMD prioritise a product segment that makes them less profit?
 
MyBrainz said:
videocardz.com

AMD Radeon RX 9060 XT leaks ahead of launch: 3.47GHz OC matching RX 7700 XT performance - VideoCardz.com

XFX Radeon RX 9060 XT goes on sale before launch and gets tested Redditor shares first-hand overclocking and undervolting results. AMD Radeon RX 9060 XT has not even launched yet, but it looks like the card is already available for sale to those who know where to look. Redditor “uesato_hinata”...
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Interestingly beating the RTX5060TI 16GB in minimums. If this is shown in other reviews it might be because of the PCI-E 16X link.
 
muon said:
New steam hardware survey update for May. We are now several months in.

1% = 1.3 million users.

AMD's pricing has resulted in their cards yet to make the list. £670+ for a 9070 XT.

Screenshot-2025-06-02-191436.png


I'm sure someone will come along and say how the 9070 XT sold more than all nvidia cards combined, based on heresay.

The increases in the share of the new 5xxx cards is slow though. AMD will be even slower. AMD missed their chance to grab meaningful market share.
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Your absolutely right, someone will come along and ask questions about these polls. I'm just one of them.

1) Polling is so inconsistent that the end result has to be scewed. It can be by 1% or 20%, we don't know, but scewed it certainly is. I never, on linux nor windows, get asked to take the survey. The last time I was asked to do it was when I plugged in a temporary 980ti while waiting for the 9070 launch. For context, I have had a 6700XT, 6950XT, a B580, RX 9070 and 2 different platforms, 3 different CPUs and several different os installs(between windows and linux) over the last 3 years time. Just the one survey though.
It wouldn't be that difficult to tie a hardware setup to a user account and detect when hardware is then changed and trigger a survey and update the end result while creating a separate group just for internet cafe machines while still counting them.

2) I'm fairly certain the 9000 series doesn't get picked up correctly by name and is lumped in with other AMD GPUs under a generic name as it isn't on the charts whatsoever by its own name. If you take a look at this screenshot from today you can see a decrease in feb and a new increase of almost 1% in marts. Interesting :). What was it that happened in start March? The 9070 launched. So that is your own words a possible sale of 1.000.000 GPUs for AMD/RTG(1%=1.3 mill users). Couple that theory together with CEO statement of "9070 XT selling 10X than prev gen in 1 week" I would say that AMD/RTG should be pretty satisfied by the result.
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My 9070 after I trigger the survey manually:
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I will absolutely agree that the pricing of the 9070 series isn't great. Some countries is worse than others. Overall it stinks. BUT! there is a reason for why the 5070 can be had now for less than MSRP in some places and the 9070 can't. Supply and Demand. The 9070 is clearly selling spite the price whereas the 5070 arn't versus available inventory. Nvidia doesn't do charity, never has, so the lower price is clearly to move some inventory that is otherwise stuck on shelves. Neither does AMD btw, which is why the price is where it is, as shelves are emptied all the time. But now that availability has improved, the prices have come down a bit. Supply and demand.
 
Funny how some of the Nvidia fans in here are not posting much in the RTX5000 thread about:
1.)Nvidia hardware problems
2.)Nvidia software issues
3.)Nvidia cards now dropping below RRP
4.)Nvidia now bundling free games
5.)China hoovering up supply of higher end Nvidia dGPUs for AI via third countries,leading to shortages in some markets

Instead they seem to be trying to dunk on the RTX9000 series,despite the same people moaning about:
1.)AMD RT being crap
2.)AMD software being crap
3.)AMD power consumption

So when AMD makes improvements in the 3 listed areas,they move onto complaining AMD hasn't sold 10X more than Nvidia. Hence,the launch is a failure.

By that logic,AMD CPUs must be a failure because Intel still sells more than AMD in server and laptop.Yet,they have no answers to why the RTX5000 series prices are now trending below RRP with free games, despite them spinning the RTX5000 series being an absolute perfect launch with zero problems.

This is the same arguments we had during the HD5000 era to defend the GTX400 series at all costs.

It shows a stunning lack of basic understanding.AMD simply makes LESS cards than Nvidia and are a CPU company. Nvidia MAKES more cards than AMD and are a GPU company.

So a "successful" AMD launch is them selling all the cards they produced. For Nvidia if they even sell 5X MORE cards than AMD,they can still have a "poor" launch if they sold less than they expected.

Nvidia makes more cards than AMD,so needs higher sale volumes.

Also for an RDNA4 rumour thread,why isn't there more discussion of the cards and tech like in the RTX5000 series thread? The RTX9060 series launch is this week and it seems like a concerted effort to bury any discussion of these cards.

Weird how all these AMD threads never stay on topic,but the Nvidia ones seemingly do.
 
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The current pricing is simple market forces in play. Nvidia aren't dropping prices, less people want them so prices are dropping to MSRP. More people want a 9070xt, so the prices are staying high.

In previous gens AMD would've dropped the price by now due to bad sales.
 
Bidley said:
The current pricing is simple market forces in play. Nvidia aren't dropping prices, less people want them so prices are dropping to MSRP. More people want a 9070xt, so the prices are staying high.

In previous gens AMD would've dropped the price by now due to bad sales.
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It's telling how worried some are about the RX9000 series - that they have to find some way to dunk on the cards,but seemingly are less critical about the Nvidia cards. These include people who bought RTX4070 cards at RRP,which is why Nvidia launched the RTX5070 12GB at £540,which meant AMD could sell the RX9070/RX9070XT for more.

The last few pages has been hardly any discussion about the RX9060XT series launch and the very little talk has been dunking on them.

For example,the £315 RX9060XT almost matching the £380 to £400 RTX5060TI whilst using half the memory bandwidth and having a 16X PCI-E link.

Instead we have people extolling the virtues of the RTX5060TI which costs more and will probably perform worse on older systems due to the 8X link and potential CPU overhead issues.
 
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CAT-THE-FIFTH said:
I remember a £315 RX9060XT 16GB price or was I mistaken? That places it closer to the RTX5060 8GB!
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TechPowerUp reported on VideoCardz spotting a short-lived price visibility on Overclockers:
VideoCardz also spotted UK retailer Overclockers UK briefly displaying pricing ranging from £289.99 to £359.99 before masking their listings to conceal actual launch pricing.
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AMD Radeon RX 9060 XT Pre-Launch Pricing Surfaces at Multiple Retailers

Graphics card vendors are setting up product pages for AMD's upcoming Radeon RX 9060 XT ahead of its June 5th release date. Tom's Hardware reports that well-known leaker @momomo_us discovered early retail listings from Central Computers (US) showing preliminary pricing that begins at $319.99...
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ChosenName said:
TechPowerUp reported on VideoCardz spotting a short-lived price visibility on Overclockers:

www.techpowerup.com

AMD Radeon RX 9060 XT Pre-Launch Pricing Surfaces at Multiple Retailers

Graphics card vendors are setting up product pages for AMD's upcoming Radeon RX 9060 XT ahead of its June 5th release date. Tom's Hardware reports that well-known leaker @momomo_us discovered early retail listings from Central Computers (US) showing preliminary pricing that begins at $319.99...
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Here is the other post by Gibbo:

Spec me a new mid/low range GPU?

Technically not for me, my brother, has a 2070 super, it's dying and it's 5 years old. I don't know what CPU he has, I wana say something like an AMD early AM3, power supply I do know is a Corsair 750tx. He says he basically doesn't want anything faster necessarily, either AMD or Nvidia no...
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5060 is £275
9060 XT will be £270 / £315 and available from next Thursday!
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CAT-THE-FIFTH said:
Here is the other post by Gibbo:

Spec me a new mid/low range GPU?

Technically not for me, my brother, has a 2070 super, it's dying and it's 5 years old. I don't know what CPU he has, I wana say something like an AMD early AM3, power supply I do know is a Corsair 750tx. He says he basically doesn't want anything faster necessarily, either AMD or Nvidia no...
forums.overclockers.co.uk forums.overclockers.co.uk
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Thanks for that. £315 sounds quite a bit better than £359 for the 9060XT.
 
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