*** The AMD RDNA 4 Rumour Mill ***

[Journey]

You'd need to be a total fool to rely on Steam hardware figures to identify 'newly' released GPU's -I mean give it 12 solid months for the data to sort itself out perhaps.

As for the 9060 XT 16GB - it's going to be the best value card on the market bar none, some people will find that difficult to accept for some weird tribalistic reason.

 

[RavenXXX2]

You'd need to be a total fool to rely on Steam hardware figures to identify 'newly' released GPU's -I mean give it 12 solid months for the data to sort itself out perhaps.

As for the 9060 XT 16GB - it's going to be the best value card on the market bar none, some people will find that difficult to accept for some weird tribalistic reason.

It's still **** performance. Who's excited for 3070 performance at over £300. Same goes for Nvidia.

 

[CAT-THE-FIFTH]

You'd need to be a total fool to rely on Steam hardware figures to identify 'newly' released GPU's -I mean give it 12 solid months for the data to sort itself out perhaps.

As for the 9060 XT 16GB - it's going to be the best value card on the market bar none, some people will find that difficult to accept for some weird tribalistic reason.

What sort of person,actually looks at sales figures,etc when choosing a product? I shouldn't ever use an independent food retailer,because Tesco is the biggest supermarket in the UK and they make 10000x more sales?

Apple sells more smartphones than Samsung,Google or Xiaomi. Everyone should get an iPhone?!

A lot of the very good deals,only lasted for a brief period due to codes and had limited stock. Still when the RX7700XT/RX7800XT was offer,many people on the internet dunked on them because RT,upscaling,power consumption,etc and pushed people towards Nvidia cards which cost as much as 15% to 20% more. People even dunked on the RX6700XT when it was under £300 and was significantly faster than an RTX3060 for the same reasons.

Now AMD has mostly fixed RT,upscaling and power consumption and used a full width 16x connection which will help on older systems. They are still giving better performance and even more VRAM at lower price-points,but since they are both the same,so you might as well buy Nvidia,right?

 

[Rob_B]

It's still **** performance. Who's excited for 3070 performance at over £300. Same goes for Nvidia.

Bit of a loaded question, no consumer WANTS this but what's the alternative? We either buy a card at a price or we don't, that's our consumer power. The 5060 was 'rubbish' in that it was beaten by years old cards, but for the price it was still technically not "bad" vs the other new cards in that price range (until tomorrow anyway) Don't get me wrong, it all sucks.

As for the 8GB 9060XT, I have little actual problem with the card but I'd like them to have different names (9060 makes sense as its the same chip).
The argument is often "consumers will be tricked" and aside from when it's sneakily hidden on packaging we don't often apply that to other products, you could buy a 1L or 1.5L Ford Focus but no one complains about that. Again don't get me wrong it IS an attempted trick and it should be called out but consumers should be expected to know at least the minimum about what they're buying.

 

[StarShock]

if your playing Rocket league or counter strike its awsome

and to be honest the most taxing game I play on my 9070xt is warzone the only single player games I play are strat games

and loads of people like me will hardly every play a AAA game or care about them

you have your elitist goggles on

I have an 8gb graphics card and it still plays games perfectly well, but I also got it almost 3 years ago, open box for £150. If people are looking to save money, there are 3 or 4 generations of used cards that can play pretty much any game perfectly well at reduced settings. Anyone spending 300+ on a new graphics card today, shouldn't have to worry about how much they have to turn down the settings to make their game run, specially when the same gpus with more vram can run the games in question perfectly well. It just feels like needless penny pinching from both camps, and its a false economy, any money people save on buying a cheaper card today will be lost when they find themselves needing to upgrade sooner.

 

[CAT-THE-FIFTH]

I have an 8gb graphics card and it still plays games perfectly well, but I also got it almost 3 years ago, open box for £150. If people are looking to save money, there are 3 or 4 generations of used cards that can play pretty much any game perfectly well at reduced settings. Anyone spending 300+ on a new graphics card today, shouldn't have to worry about how much they have to turn down the settings to make their game run, specially when the same gpus with more vram can run the games in question perfectly well. It just feels like needless penny pinching from both camps, and its a false economy, any money people save on buying a cheaper card today will be lost when they find themselves needing to upgrade sooner.

Gibbo said the RX9060XT 16GB starts at £315,which is cheaper than the RTX5060TI 8GB! The cheapest RTX5060TI 16GB is £390. The RX9060XT 8GB starts at £270,ie,the same price as the RTX5060 8GB.

If the leaked review was true,the RX9060XT 8GB will be 10% faster than an RTX5060 8GB,whilst offering a full PCI-E 16X connection unlike the RTX5060 8GB. This will help on older PCI-E 3.0 and PCI-E 4.0 systems. It was shown by Hardware Unboxed how that a 8X link will cause a performance reduction:

But,either way the 16GB version is the better buy. You get 16GB of VRAM and the full speed 16X link too.

 

[muon]

This is the *** The AMD RDNA 4 Rumour Mill *** thread,not the Steam Hardware survey thread? If it's so important to some,why not make a separate thread talking about it,instead of pages of stuff nobody really cares about.

I will save people the effort - Nvidia makes more cards than AMD,so will sell more. AMD is doomed.The end.

There is hardly any discussion of RDNA4 stuff on here. Anybody looking at this thread wouldn't realise the rest of the RDNA4 range is being released tomorrow at 2pm.

If you want RDNA4 only in a positive manner, go to the owners thread, this as you said is all things about RDNA4, including sales performance and prices, and AMD's plans in the market.

If RDNA4 was top of the steam hardware survey, you'd be the first to post it, like some of the debunked day 1 sales numbers were posted here a lot.

 

[muon]

FTFY.

I'm not derailing the thread. A measure of sales performance for the latest cards was just released and I brought it to attention in a very general RDNA4 thread.

When the 9060 XT cards are a few months old, it will also be interesting to see where they rank. As cheaper, midrange cards I'm sure they will do better.

 

[CAT-THE-FIFTH]

I'm not derailing the thread. A measure of sales performance for the latest cards was just released and I brought it to attention in a very general RDNA4 thread.

Plenty of people tried explaining this(even in this thread). I even pointed out for years,Nvidia has most of the prebuilt market supply in laptops and desktops and it's harder to find AMD cards.So it doesn't make any difference how good or bad the launches go unless AMD can push enough supply to OEMs. Consoles also compete for wafers from dGPUs - it was obvious during the Pandemic.

AMD could have a "better" DIY sales and still get destroyed in OEM sales. This is why Intel outsells AMD massively in CPUs despite being ahead:

Intel Struggles To Reverse AMD’s Share Gains In x86 CPU Market

While Intel made an incremental share gain against AMD in the x86 CPU market in the first quarter, the move did little to slow the upward trajectory AMD has seen over the past year, according to a new Mercury Research report.

www.crn.com

AMD Achieves Record Server Revenue Share, x86 Desktop CPU Market Share Grows To 28%

AMD has posted its record revenue share for the server segment while also recording big growth on the desktop side of things.

wccftech.com

Many of the Intel CPUs review worse than what AMD has to offer and are not better value.Yet,go onto DIY stores and AMD CPUs are probably the best sellers. However,most business systems are using Intel CPUs. Intel hasn't got the TSMC limitations AMD has for CPUs. It was huge news for Dell to start offering AMD this year:

Dell chooses AMD over Intel in complete overhaul of business PCs

The new Dell Pro desktops and laptops feature AMD Ryzen AI Pro processors, which Dell plans to use to further define the AI PC era. This Proline also

www.techzine.eu

Prebuilt systems are where the majority of CPUs and dGPUs are sold in. I am not sure why anyone who understands the market, would think AMD would suddenly match or outsell Nvidia in overall sales. What AMD considers a "successful" launch is different from Nvidia. Just like comparing the latest Google Pixel launch to the latest iPhone(hint: the iPhone sales expectations are more).

So I perplexed why suddenly it is newsworthy or why people suddenly think Nvidia sales are zero,especially since a good proportion of Nvidia gaming dGPU sales are also going to AI users(including China).

However Nvidia DIY sales are probably under expectations IMHO(which doesn't mean zero are selling) - it would explain why cards like the RTX5070 are below RRP with a free game.Nvidia are probably throwing a bone for their AIB partners.

But the RTX5070 will obliterate the RX9070 series in prebuilt sales for sure. Unless AMD properly commits to those sales,their statements are just marketing.

 

[Game]

I have been asked 3 times in 20 years for a survey and two of them in the last 5 years

jan 2024

2021 was the last one before that

 

[Game]

now can we get back to the rumors and stop talking about Nvidia

 

[nitram100]

More people want a 9070

Well the GBP is doing well so no currency excuses this time. That said I'm betting US prices will be subsided by higher prices elsewhere (tariffs).

They only acknowledge currency rates when the pound is weak lol

 

[CAT-THE-FIFTH]

Leaked AMD bumpf:

AMD claims RX 9060 XT 8GB is 55% faster than RX 7600 at 1080p, 16GB model is 46% faster than 7600 XT at 1440p - VideoCardz.com

AMD shares Radeon RX 9060 XT benchmarks against RTX 5060 Ti and RX 7600 series Later today, AMD will lift the embargo on Radeon RX 9060 XT reviews. We’re hearing that many reviews are coming, but some reviewers reportedly had issues obtaining the 8GB version, which contradicts what other media...

videocardz.com

46% to 55% faster than an RX7600/RX7600XT.

 

[njblue]

Is there any models of the 9060xt 16gb with stock clock speeds all seem to be running an overclock

 

[G J]

I picked up a 4070 for £299.99 a few weeks ago but I'm getting abit of cold feet with it seeing these leaked benchmarks and tempted to return within 30day and pick up one of these...

AMD Radeon RX 9060 XT 16 GB Specs

AMD Navi 44, 3130 MHz, 2048 Cores, 128 TMUs, 64 ROPs, 16384 MB GDDR6, 2518 MHz, 128 bit

www.techpowerup.com

Techpowerup updated their potential 9060 XT relative performance listing and put it between a 6800/6800 XT and just 5% slower than a 4070. Another thing to note that the 7600 XT is around 46% slower than the 9060 XT as per the slide @CAT-THE-FIFTH posted.

 

[CAT-THE-FIFTH]

Is there any models of the 9060xt 16gb with stock clock speeds all seem to be running an overclock

The 16GB model has a higher rated board power.

I picked up a 4070 for £299.99 a few weeks ago but I'm getting abit of cold feet with it seeing these leaked benchmarks and tempted to return within 30day and pick up one of these...

AMD Radeon RX 9060 XT 16 GB Specs

AMD Navi 44, 3130 MHz, 2048 Cores, 128 TMUs, 64 ROPs, 16384 MB GDDR6, 2518 MHz, 128 bit

www.techpowerup.com

Techpowerup updated their potential 9060 XT relative performance listing and put it between a 6800/6800 XT and just 5% slower than a 4070. Another thing to note that the 7600 XT is around 46% slower than the 9060 XT as per the slide @CAT-THE-FIFTH posted.

I would think the RTX4070 would be faster overall,but we should soon find out!

 

[RavenXXX2]

AMD Needs to Just Shut Up​

So say we all.

 

[CAT-THE-FIFTH]

TPU figures:

Spoiler

Much closer to an RTX5060TI 16GB than expected!

The review thread is here:

OcUK RX9060XT Review Thread

RX9060XT 16GB Asus https://www.techpowerup.com/review/asus-radeon-rx-9060-xt-prime-oc-16-gb/ https://www.guru3d.com/review/asus-radeon-rx-9060-xt-tuf-oc-review/ https://www.kitguru.net/components/graphic-cards/dominic-moass/amd-rx-9060-xt-16gb-review-ft-asus/ Gigabyte MSI...

forums.overclockers.co.uk

 

[CAT-THE-FIFTH]

DF tested the cards on PCI-E 3.0:

Spoiler

Digital Foundry RX9060XT Review June 4th 2025

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[RavenXXX2]

Well that was underwhelming.