OcUK RX9060XT Review Thread

[McPhee]

Then you've got the dilemma of 5070 popping up for 460 on deal sites lol.

Going by TPU's relative performance figures:

9060 XT 16GB, £330
5060 Ti 16GB, +7% performance for 18% more money.
5070, 51% more performance for 51% more money.
9070, 66% more performance for 72% more money.
9070 XT +85% performance, +97% price.

I'm surprised how little variance there is in value to be honest. The 5070 looks great, in that it's an Nvidia card offering the same bang for buck as the 9060 XT, but there's the obvious 12GB VRAM caveat. The 9070 series cards are overpriced (but we all knew that already...).

 

[CAT-THE-FIFTH]

Going by TPU's relative performance figures:

9060 XT 16GB, £330
5060 Ti 16GB, +7% performance for 18% more money.
5070, 51% more performance for 51% more money.
9070, 66% more performance for 72% more money.
9070 XT +85% performance, +97% price.

I'm surprised how little variance there is in value to be honest. The 5070 looks great, in that it's an Nvidia card offering the same bang for buck as the 9060 XT, but there's the obvious 12GB VRAM caveat. The 9070 series cards are overpriced (but we all knew that already...).

The RX9070 pricing has gone a bit silly now - the RX9070 non-XT was cheaper than an RTX5070 when I got mine. It needs to get down to £500,as the RTX5070 is dipping below £500 now.

 

[Martini1991]

HUB's video on the 8GB card is absolutely brilliant with how they've show cased it with system comparisons

 

[Gibbo]

What time are these going live?

13:55 - 14:05

 

[Rob_B]

EDIT: It's not a review, just showing the VRAM limit, so I'll await normal reviews.

Original post:
The more I think about it the more I think that HUB video is really misleading.
They reviewed different games, many that they know get VRAM limited to force their point.
They used different settings for the reviews (FSR@1140p in the 8GB one but not in the 16GB)

The reviews are not comparable, they don't even offer an apples to apples comparison for the games that WERE the same so I actually have no idea how much worse the 8GB is vs the 16GB (I know it IS, just not how much)

It probably takes more effort to review different games so this is on purpose. Last of Us Pt II in the 8GB review vs Pt I for the 16GB? That's a concious decision.

 

[CAT-THE-FIFTH]

HUB's video on the 8GB card is absolutely brilliant with how they've show cased it with system comparisons

Any of these 8GB cards should be under £250. But I do think they missed a trick - they should have included the RTX5060 and RTX5060TI 8GB too. People on here have been trying to say Nvidia cards have special sauce so handle 8GB VRAM better.

EDIT: It's not a review, just showing the VRAM limit, so not what I was looking for to be honest.

The more I think about it the more I think that HUB video is really misleading.
They reviewed different games, many that they know get VRAM limited to force their point.
They used different settings for the reviews (FSR@1140p in the 8GB one but not in the 16GB)

The reviews are not comparable, they don't even offer an apples to apples comparison for the games that WERE the same so I actually have no idea how much worse the 8GB is vs the 16GB (I know it IS, just not how much)

It probably takes more effort to review different games so this is on purpose. Last of Us Pt II in the 8GB review vs Pt I for the 16GB? That's a concious decision.

The problem is the price. The extra 8GB of VRAM isn't that much pricier for both companies AFAIK.

 

[humbug]

The RX9070 pricing has gone a bit silly now - the RX9070 non-XT was cheaper than an RTX5070 when I got mine. It needs to get down to £500,as the RTX5070 is dipping below £500 now.

I hate how expensive the RX 9070 series is, the 5070 is not a bad shout at £500, the only thing that puts me off it is the 12GB, i know its fine but i'd like a bit of headroom.

You know what Jay said in his most recent video that at his local store they were still selling 4X as many 9070 series as 5070 series, which is mental..... but also explains a lot.

 

[humbug]

EDIT: It's not a review, just showing the VRAM limit, so I'll await normal reviews.

Original post:
The more I think about it the more I think that HUB video is really misleading.
They reviewed different games, many that they know get VRAM limited to force their point.
They used different settings for the reviews (FSR@1140p in the 8GB one but not in the 16GB)

The reviews are not comparable, they don't even offer an apples to apples comparison for the games that WERE the same so I actually have no idea how much worse the 8GB is vs the 16GB (I know it IS, just not how much)

It probably takes more effort to review different games so this is on purpose. Last of Us Pt II in the 8GB review vs Pt I for the 16GB? That's a concious decision.

This is what i'm saying, they are just going over the top with this now......

 

[Rob_B]

Any of these 8GB cards should be under £250. But I do think they missed a trick - they should have included the RTX5060 and RTX5060TI 8GB too. People on here have been trying to say Nvidia cards have special sauce so handle 8GB VRAM better.



The problem is the price. The extra 8GB of VRAM isn't that much pricier for both companies AFAIK.

Not sure how accurate but dramexchange shows an average of 2.33 for 8Gb, I'm assuming in USD so 8*$2.33 = $18.64 for the actual chips :/

 

[queamin]

The RX9070 pricing has gone a bit silly now - the RX9070 non-XT was cheaper than an RTX5070 when I got mine. It needs to get down to £500,as the RTX5070 is dipping below £500 now.

Yeah I failed to get one at 2pm on launch day didn't even get to check out and after the rush 9070 was more than the 9070XT so I said sod that and gave up wasting 2 hours or more not getting any where. I am just going to get a 9060XT 16GB and up grade in a few years, I still got a 580.

I am not playing many games at moment OTTD and Invisible Inc and Forgotten but Unbroken, but need to replace the 580.

 

[CAT-THE-FIFTH]

I hate how expensive the RX 9070 series is, the 5070 is not a bad shout at £500, the only thing that puts me off it is the 12G, i know its fine but i'd like a bit of headroom.

You know what Jay said in his most recent video that at his local store they were still selling 4X as many 9070 series as 5070 series, which is mental..... but also explains a lot.

It's just surreal that AMD cards are gaining a price premium over the Nvidia ones and still selling well to enthusiast users. That also the Nvidia cards are dropping below RRP. Yes,we all know Nvidia will outsell AMD 10X in prebuilt systems,but it's been years since I have seen anything like this and it was back in the ATI days.

It shows how much Nvidia dropped the ball this generation with hardware and software problems and weird hardware configurations. AMD just had a normal GPU launch without any drama. For once they had cards which worked mostly well,solid drivers and managed to catch up with features too.

Not sure how accurate but dramexchange shows an average of 2.33 for 8Gb, I'm assuming in USD so 8*$2.33 = $18.64 for the actual chips :/

Exactly. Nvidia also has access to 3GB GDDR7 modules,so the RTX5070 should have been an 18GB card. I might have even got one myself.

Yeah I failed to get one at 2pm on launch day didn't even get to check out and after the rush 9070 was more than the 9070XT so I said sod that and gave up wasting 2 hours or more not getting any where. I am just going to get a 9060XT 16GB and up grade in a few years, I still got a 580

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I am not playing many games at moment OTTD and Invisible Inc and Forgotten but Unbroken, but need to replace the 580.

I managed to get a change to buy both at RRP. However,I have a SFF PC and preferred the RX9070 non-XT. It's artificially limited,so with some fiddling the difference isn't as large - plus both are limited by the same amount of memory bandwidth.

 

[humbug]

Not sure how accurate but dramexchange shows an average of 2.33 for 8Gb, I'm assuming in USD so 8*$2.33 = $18.64 for the actual chips :/

And that's bulk retail, Nvidia / AMD buy these in the millions, they will be cheaper to them, there is also the PCB, it will be more complex with more layers and VIA's and you have to cool the IC's on the back, so thermal pads and a backplate that can do that.... But i can't see them costing more than $30 or so to manufacture vs the 8GB ones

Ninja edit.

 

[Rob_B]

ARE they more complex boards? I haven't seen a teardown yet so no idea, nor if the extra VRAM is on the back or not. But yeah, the cost seems relatively negligible.

 

[humbug]

It's just surreal that AMD cards are gaining a price premium over the Nvidia ones and still selling well to enthusiast users. That also the Nvidia cards are dropping below RRP. Yes,we all know Nvidia will outsell AMD 10X in prebuilt systems,but it's been years since I have seen anything like this and it was back in the ATI days.

It shows how much Nvidia dropped the ball this generation with hardware and software problems and weird hardware configurations. AMD just had a normal GPU launch without any drama. For once they had cards which worked mostly well,solid drivers and managed to catch up with features too.

It is crazy, i take back everything i said about this in the past, i was wrong, so very wrong. I'm genuinely flabbergasted.

On the one hand i do think its a good thing because AMD getting some real revenue from GPU's now is a good thing, i'd like to see what they can actually do with some real R&D, i do think of AMD as exceptionally good, they have a long history of that so lets see what they do coming out from under Nvidia's shadow.

On the other hand AMD have already proven themselves to be very much like Nvidia in many ways, literally the moment they found success, that's disappointing.

 

[CAT-THE-FIFTH]

It is crazy, i take back everything i said about this in the past, i was wrong, so very wrong. I'm genuinely flabbergasted.

On the one hand i do think its a good thing because AMD getting some real revenue from GPU's now is a good thing, i'd like to see what they can actually do with some real R&D, i do think of AMD as exceptionally good, they have a long history of that so lets see what they do coming out from under Nvidia's shadow.

On the other hand AMD have already proven themselves to be very much like Nvidia in many ways, literally the moment they found success, that's disappointing.

Nvidia is going to still massively outsell them as they make far more dGPUs and have most of the OEM market. It would be nice if AMD found another company like Samsung to make the chips,so they could keep supply high and get more prebuilt wins.

 

[humbug]

Nvidia is going to still massively outsell them as they make far more dGPUs and have most of the OEM market. It would be nice if AMD found another company like Samsung to make the chips,so they could keep supply high and get more prebuilt wins.

Yes, its the same for Intel on the CPU side, AMD have the custom market completely cornered, RainForst reporting about 80 to 90% Ryzen while its the inverse for SI's and OEM's. Not that this is a good thing 'increasingly' for Intel as to maintain that marketshare they are heavily subsidising it and you can see that in the financials losing billions in these segments, what Intel have done is use corporate welfare payments to pay for it, but no more as Trump put a stop to it, so now what?
Well AMD's OEM and SI segments are growing....

Nvidia will keep its SI and OEM dominance for some time by virtue of its own merits but that will only last so long before the lag between SI's and OEM's starts to catch up with the reality of people also wanting AMD's stuff in these things.

That's AMD's task, to make what they have now stick long term, years, having good custom mindshare is where it starts, keep it going and eventually Nvidia will find themselves having to subsidise these markets to keep AMD out, which can't last forever.

You listening AMD?

 

[Gypo]

Worth upgrading from a Gigabyte 3060Ti 8GB OC Ampere?

 

[CAT-THE-FIFTH]

Worth upgrading from a Gigabyte 3060Ti 8GB OC Ampere?

Looking at TPU you are getting almost 25% more rasterised performance and 62% more RT performance at 1440p and twice the VRAM. Maybe check how much you can sell your RTX3060TI for and determine whether it is worth it.

 

[humbug]

Good shout ^^^^ i was thinking how best to respond to that question, +25% is not great but doubling the Vram might sweeten the deal, i also had no idea RT was that much better.

Yeah, see what you can get for your old card...

 

[Glanza]