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JPR: Nvidia gained record all time high 92% AIB Q1 2025 marketshare
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Relating to the cost discussion thingy:
Luxury product (as far as things in life are concerned - a GPU won't be on many - perhaps the majority- of people's priorities at the end of the month) in limited supply (due to 1 foundry making several brands' products) gets more expensive and still sells out, well, because it's limited supply in any case and there will always be enough people to buy it.
Problem most folk have is that the prices have reached a level where it isn't affordable for THEM anymore, specifically. First world problems, as it were. They've been gentrified out of something they thought they were entitled to as consumers. This is, in my mind at least, just the 'cost of living' thing in a different sector, the increasing discrepancy in income, the disolution of the middle class etc.
We just happened to be 'on the spectrum' of income in order to consider things 'affordable' for the longest time, as far as PCs go.
OR! We could just say corporations suck and all that, but that's always been the case.
Luxury product (as far as things in life are concerned - a GPU won't be on many - perhaps the majority- of people's priorities at the end of the month) in limited supply (due to 1 foundry making several brands' products) gets more expensive and still sells out, well, because it's limited supply in any case and there will always be enough people to buy it.
Problem most folk have is that the prices have reached a level where it isn't affordable for THEM anymore, specifically. First world problems, as it were. They've been gentrified out of something they thought they were entitled to as consumers. This is, in my mind at least, just the 'cost of living' thing in a different sector, the increasing discrepancy in income, the disolution of the middle class etc.
We just happened to be 'on the spectrum' of income in order to consider things 'affordable' for the longest time, as far as PCs go.
OR! We could just say corporations suck and all that, but that's always been the case.
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I was seriously considering AMD after many years but they **** the bed once more. Broken HDMI ports and fake MSRP.
AMD can and would win some gamers over with the"at least AMD aint greedy scummy company" but we all know that isnt the case, the blatant fake msrp and the 8gb same name puts them in same light as NVidia. its like they see NVidias winning formula and try to copy it. i used to only buy AMD due to being a decent company at time, but now i see they both the same, its just Nvidia is far better at taking cash from gamers, and even with ROPs,drivers etc, gamers will still come flocking back, only reason i went back to amd for performance/£ with the 70xt, but tbf its been great tbh
9070XT is above MSRP while the 5070ti is below MSRP. Just turned into another Nvidia minus 50 quid situation so not surprised if the majority of people go with the 5070ti. Now if they were at the MSRP or less of £570 for the 9070XT it would be a different story.
You're right I'm going to go buy a 5070ti before it drops even further below MSRP.
£100 difference is quite a lot for card that are on a par roughly(raster), thats comparing both cheapest models. if AMD kept at msrp it would be a cake walk which which to buy, but fake msrp doesnt help their case as some folk would think £100 for slightly better raster figures, RT and obviously DLSS4 is worth it. so they losing sales to the TI because the close financial gap
Honestly though like for like there is still a big gap. Take the Asus prime as an example there's a 150 gap between them. I am very happy with my nitro 9070xt and if I was buying again I would do the same as I want a good aib. They are still 850 for a 5070ti
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Do we think that 9070 XT at MSRP would change the situation? I don't, Nvidia still sells on the brand and feature set alone (despite AMD closing the gap somewhat in the latter case). Plus I'd be surprised if they produced anywhere near as many cards as Nvidia to be able to flood the market.
I like the 9070 XT, and FSR4 is impressive. It's just very close in price to the 5070 Ti at present which is a bit faster overall (and much faster in heavy RT workloads for those that care), and has the green mind share.
We're doomed, I tell thee! Just don't look at the spec in my sig...
I like the 9070 XT, and FSR4 is impressive. It's just very close in price to the 5070 Ti at present which is a bit faster overall (and much faster in heavy RT workloads for those that care), and has the green mind share.
We're doomed, I tell thee! Just don't look at the spec in my sig...
If the 9070 was at msrp so circa £530, that is a 5070 and 5070 ti killer, it would out sell Nvidia by loads. Currently £650+ is stupid. Just tells me AMD is not bothered about requiring more DIY market share.
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Why flood the market if the product is not great?
It’s mainly the UK that has the 9070XT and 5070TI close. Other countries have the 5070TI closer to 820 starting at, to the point that they’re considered different segments.
FSR Redstone might bring it closer still, but in the end AMD itself has its eyes on what’s after RDNA, this being the last one with this architecture. I’m also curious what they come up with and how they build from this, in the end, very well done launch for them (helped by nvidia’s pricing, stock, but still).
FSR Redstone might bring it closer still, but in the end AMD itself has its eyes on what’s after RDNA, this being the last one with this architecture. I’m also curious what they come up with and how they build from this, in the end, very well done launch for them (helped by nvidia’s pricing, stock, but still).
The 'shipped' could also mean 'contracted' and still not assembled, or perhaps, even components not delivered yet, no one knows what it means precisely. They can say whatever they want, we can't verify it
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Maybe all the other retailers were buying their stock from OCUK? (and still sitting on loads)
(edit: yes I realise that still wouldn't actually work... would be counted double as sales)
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aha someone has caught onto my future plan for world domination, my plan was buy one graphics card , find a friend [guess id have to buy a friend too to make this work but bare with me lol]Maybe all the other retailers were buying their stock from OCUK? (and still sitting on loads)
(edit: yes I realise that still wouldn't actually work... would be counted double as sales)
then me and my new friend can keep selling siad gpu back and forth and we can take over the market with the highest ever sales number with just one card
edit to point out i just realised my plan is even more cunning thatn i realised , it also gets around the issue of supply they only need to make one gpu as well
if anyone in the hr department for any of the gpu manufacturers wants to hire me i take payment in terrible jokes and bad ideas
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Unrelated really but the Nvidia mindset is hard to beat. Both my son's have AMD cards. A 7700xt and a 7900gre, their peers call them smooth brained and crap cards despite their online friends owning 3050 and 3060/ti cards. My eldest used to moan but has since realized how good the cards they have are and even offered him an Nvidia card but he has realized how pointless that would be without it being a significant tier requiring a lot of cash
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