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Valgua

Valgua

Valgua

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My PC is turning 10 years and I am on the market for a new one. I use the PC for both gaming and work, so I would need a quiet system that still manages to keep my components cool.
I dislike tempered glass as well as RBG (I will turn 48 in two months so yes, I’m old). I enjoy qualitative products which are as reliable as possible. Would this build satisfy my needs? All inputs are appreciated.

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You can list the specs if you want (with no clues to the seller), or just give us a budget and we'll do a spec for you.

Valgua said:
and work
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What kind of work? I'm asking because it might change the PC spec.

What resolution is the monitor you are using?
 
Tetras said:
You can list the specs if you want (with no clues to the seller), or just give us a budget and we'll do a spec for you.


What kind of work? I'm asking because it might change the PC spec.

What resolution is the monitor you are using?
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Thank you! Sorry for my clumsiness.
I am a legal historian, so besides gaming I will use the PC to write, read digitalised archives and so on. None of these tasks is particularly taxing for the PC. In fact, I would probably have kept my current system if Microsoft had not decided to discontinue Win10 support in three months time.

As I said, I’d really like to have an excellent gaming system capable of handling AAA titles (MS Flight Sim and coming games such as Witcher 4, Battlefield 6 etc) at 1440p (I currently have a good 1080p display, but I am planning to upgrade). However, while I work I need for the PC to be relatively silent, by which I mean that I have no problem hearing the air flowing through the case at a low pitch, but I’d rather avoid rattles, whines and the sort. Moreover, I really enjoy having components of good quality even if they cost a bit more. I have had my fair share of crappy hardware that I will end up replacing anyway.

I have thought of the following components:

Case: Fractal Design North XL with a solid panel (I have an almost phobic distrust of tempered glass). I will replace the fans with Noctuas 140 mm (three intakes on the front and one exhaust on the back, with the objective of achieving a slight positive pressure in the case).

CPU: AMD Ryzen 7 9800X3D

Cooler: Thermalright Phantom Spirit 120 EVO

Motherboard: ASUS TUF Gaming B650-E WIFI

GPU: Gigabyte GeForce RTX 5080 16GB Gaming OC

RAM: Kingston 64GB (2x32GB) DDR5 6000MHz CL30 FURY Beast AMD EXPO/XMP 3.0

PSU: be quiet! Power Zone 2 1000W 80+ Platinum ATX 3.1

SSD: Samsung 990 EVO Plus M.2 NVMe SSD 2TB

What do you think?
 
I'm disliking the whole glass and RGB thing too.

That's a good system if you're happy spending 5080 money and 9800X3D isn't cheap either. I wouldn't buy Asus motherboard though, overpriced.
 
48 isn't old
I would give anything to be that young again :cry:

Wanting a case without glass side panel
Does reduce your choices
Glass side panels can easily be covered with
Some vinyl wrap

The rtx5080 is hard to recommend to anyone
Overpriced, only 16gb vram for that price
And not much better than previous generation 4080 super (not counting fake frame generation)
Though I guess given the sad current state of the gpu market
Only other choices are a used rtx4090
Or a 7900xtx
 
Mcnumpty2323 said:
48 isn't old
I would give anything to be that young again :cry:

Wanting a case without glass side panel
Does reduce your choices
Glass side panels can easily be covered with
Some vinyl wrap

The rtx5080 is hard to recommend to anyone
Overpriced, only 16gb vram for that price
And not much better than previous generation 4080 super (not counting fake frame generation)
Though I guess given the sad current state of the gpu market
Only other choices are a used rtx4090
Or a 7900xtx
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I agree but what are the alternatives? A good 5070ti is not much cheaper.
I am tempted by Radeon (for instance 9070xt) but I keep reading about green screens and crashes. Also, Nvidia has better ray tracing.
About glass: it’s not so much that I dislike RGB (although I do) but rather that I really dislike tempered glass as a material. It is basically under constant internal pressure and quite weak on the edges. I don’t want it near my face while I work (as I said: it’s almost a phobia) or close to my components. I prefer good old metal.
 
Valgua said:
I agree but what are the alternatives? A good 5070ti is not much cheaper.
I am tempted by Radeon (for instance 9070xt) but I keep reading about green screens and crashes. Also, Nvidia has better ray tracing.
About glass: it’s not so much that I dislike RGB (although I do) but rather that I really dislike tempered glass as a material. It is basically under constant internal pressure and quite weak on the edges. I don’t want it near my face while I work (as I said: it’s almost a phobia) or close to my components. I prefer good old metal.
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No issues with green screens or crashes.

agree with glass, what if I drop it smash the panel and new one is £40 or unavailable...unless case.
 
Yeah tempered glass is under stress
And a bang especially on the edge or corner
Could shatter it
Though I have removed mine more times
Than I can count and it's still fine
Could it shatter yeah of course it could
But it's probably a tiny % of people have it happen
Can only recall seeing 2 people post theirs shattered
In these forums

Nvidia drivers recently have been awful
Probably way worse than amd
 
Valgua said:
I have thought of the following components:

Case: Fractal Design North XL with a solid panel (I have an almost phobic distrust of tempered glass). I will replace the fans with Noctuas 140 mm (three intakes on the front and one exhaust on the back, with the objective of achieving a slight positive pressure in the case).

CPU: AMD Ryzen 7 9800X3D

Cooler: Thermalright Phantom Spirit 120 EVO

Motherboard: ASUS TUF Gaming B650-E WIFI

GPU: Gigabyte GeForce RTX 5080 16GB Gaming OC

RAM: Kingston 64GB (2x32GB) DDR5 6000MHz CL30 FURY Beast AMD EXPO/XMP 3.0

PSU: be quiet! Power Zone 2 1000W 80+ Platinum ATX 3.1

SSD: Samsung 990 EVO Plus M.2 NVMe SSD 2TB

What do you think?
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Fine, but I'm surprised you're not going for B850 to have PCI-E 5.0 graphics.

I'd prefer a case like the Flux or Lian Li 217 that includes the fans, but eh, good cases last a long time.

Valgua said:
I am tempted by Radeon (for instance 9070xt) but I keep reading about green screens and crashes.
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Nvidia drivers are worse than AMD's drivers for this generation. The ray tracing is also much better than it used to be.

Valgua said:
A good 5070ti is not much cheaper.
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What do you mean by "good"? From what I can see, a premium model 5080 is similarly expensive to a premium model 5070 Ti. Besides, the Gaming OC isn't what I'd consider a premium model anyway. The 5080 is about 15% faster than a 5070 Ti.
 
Tetras said:
Fine, but I'm surprised you're not going for B850 to have PCI-E 5.0 graphics.

I'd prefer a case like the Flux or Lian Li 217 that includes the fans, but eh, good cases last a long time.


Nvidia drivers are worse than AMD's drivers for this generation. The ray tracing is also much better than it used to be.


What do you mean by "good"? From what I can see, a premium model 5080 is similarly expensive to a premium model 5070 Ti. Besides, the Gaming OC isn't what I'd consider a premium model anyway. The 5080 is about 15% faster than a 5070 Ti.
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You raise some good points. Perhaps it would be wiser to go with a 5070 ti and invest slightly more in the motherboard.
 
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Valgua said:
You raise some good points. Perhaps it would be wiser to go with a 5070 ti and invest slightly more in the motherboard.
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From the perspective of raw performance: you're definitely better off with a 5080 over the 5070 Ti, versus having PCI-E 5.0 over 4.0, because the difference is only a few percent.

It is just that, I expect a high-end build to have a B850/X870 motherboard, rather than a B650 motherboard. Will the PCI-E 5.0 ever matter? Maybe not (if you only buy high-end cards), but the extra cost relative to the build is very small if you got e.g. the B850 Eagle.
 
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Tetras said:
From the perspective of raw performance: you're definitely better off with a 5080 over the 5070 Ti, versus having PCI-E 5.0 over 4.0, because the difference is only a few percent.

It is just that, I expect a high-end build to have a B850/X870 motherboard, rather than a B650 motherboard. Will the PCI-E 5.0 ever matter? Maybe not (if you only buy high-end cards), but the extra cost relative to the build is very small if you got e.g. the B850 Eagle.
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The PCI-E 5.0 may matter in the future, if card manufacurers will decide to take advantage of it. Well, back to the drawing board (it’s half the fun anyway).
 
Valgua said:
I am a legal historian, so besides gaming I will use the PC to write, read digitalised archives and so on. None of these tasks is particularly taxing for the PC. In fact, I would probably have kept my current system if Microsoft had not decided to discontinue Win10 support in three months time.

As I said, I’d really like to have an excellent gaming system capable of handling AAA titles (MS Flight Sim and coming games such as Witcher 4, Battlefield 6 etc) at 1440p (I currently have a good 1080p display, but I am planning to upgrade). However, while I work I need for the PC to be relatively silent, by which I mean that I have no problem hearing the air flowing through the case at a low pitch, but I’d rather avoid rattles, whines and the sort. Moreover, I really enjoy having components of good quality even if they cost a bit more. I have had my fair share of crappy hardware that I will end up replacing anyway.
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do you just want to scratch the upgrade itch, or do you need to upgrade becuase you now want to play AAA games?
if you are solely upgrading because win10 is being discontinued then JFYI, you can install win11 on unsupported hardware with rufus


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Valgua said:
The PCI-E 5.0 may matter in the future, if card manufacurers will decide to take advantage of it. Well, back to the drawing board (it’s half the fun anyway).
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I think it will matter if you buy lower-end cards. We've seen that already, where PCIE 5.0 cards on PCIE 4.0 that run out of VRAM have terrible performance compared to the higher-end cards.

If you only buy high-end cards, the difference is just a few percent and I doubt that will change.
 
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