Air India Crash

MOOGLEYS said:
The nose is raised almost like a flare, tbh to me it looks like the plane thinks it is landing possibly a similar situation to the French one that landed in a forest. Who knows bit weird though…..
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I think that might be a reaction to the plane sinking and stalling and the pilots desperatly pulling back - obviously this is only making things worse if you are in a stall, but natural when you're metres from the ground anyway.
 
Ayahuasca said:
It looks like Flightradar's initial data was incorrect, and that the aircraft did use the full length of the runway.
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Yes, the data on there is not reliable at first view.

We are continuing to process data from receiver sources individually. Additional processing confirms #AI171 departed using the full length of Runway 23 at Ahmedabad. RWY 23 is 11,499 feet long. The aircraft backtracked to the end of the runway before beginning its take off roll.
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204 bodies recovered so far, from a quick skim read on BBC there was no way of knowing how many of those were the 242 onboard and how many were fatalies from the plane hitting accomodation. :(

Video above shows it barely took off from the runway for ~10 seconds before ascending stopped and it began heading down, surely leaving pilots no chance to try and spin around and land back on the runway. :(
 
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If it was a double engine failure could it be that APU wasnt started immediately or we looking at something totally different? I remembered about Korean crash in recent times so I went back to look found this really good video from a Pilot who trains others in the simulator in horrendous scenario it really good but skip to 33 mins in video for detailed stuff but worth watching really good analysis.

I know we are talking at different planes but I read APU is on the 787 to, but my lack of skills or knowledge on it im not sure in this India crash it would make any difference.

 
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