Air India Crash

[imtoooldforthis]

There’s a video on Reddit of some guy walking around who apparently survived the crash !

 

[Ayahuasca]

There’s a video on Reddit of some guy walking around who apparently survived the crash !

That's the same guy being reported as the only survivor so far.

To not only survive that but to casually walk away from the scene is nothing short of a miracle.

 

[Harlequin]

Aircaft was at 625 AMSL, , airfield is 200 feet AMSL, so it only gained 425 feet and some of that was from wing effect and inertia

 

[robj20]

It was hot and if they had an engine failure and with the startle effect forgot to raise the gear it could have been unable to climb. 787 engines are not very powerful.

What makes you say that? Minimum they're 58,000lbs of thrust each, and with the 787-8 weighing stone 118,000lbs it's close to the default thrust ratio of 1:1.
Of course that's the least power out could have it could be 78,000. I haven't checked which engines this aircraft has.
It would be more than capable of sustaining takeoff with only one engine, that's a basic requirement.

 

[Armageus]

How? Everyone has mobile phones with video cameras these days and easy access to social media

Why? Because people want to see and other people want the validation of being the person who supplied what everyone wanted to see

Clearly, but why would airport staff allow someone access to be able to stand and record the CCTV footage from their phone in the first place?

 

[Mr Jack]

To not only survive that but to casually walk away from the scene is nothing short of a miracle.

I read he jumped from the plane, given where he was sitting, I guess he got that door open and out?

Air India are saying passengers (plural) have been taken to hospital, although no indication of how many that means. I expect some of them will be barely alive but hopefully some will pull through.

 

[Ayahuasca]

Clearly, but why would airport staff allow someone access to be able to stand and record the CCTV footage from their phone in the first place?

With it being India (or many other countries really), it could well be a member of staff who's uploaded the footage.

 

[Chrisc]

Price of exit seats have just quadrupled.

 

[Harlequin]

What makes you say that? Minimum they're 58,000lbs of thrust each, and with the 787-8 weighing stone 118,000lbs it's close to the default thrust ratio of 1:1.
Of course that's the least power out could have it could be 78,000. I haven't checked which engines this aircraft has.
It would be more than capable of sustaining takeoff with only one engine, that's a basic requirement.

GEnx-1b @ 69,000 ish. However it was under HOT conditions with air temp in shade of 42 degrees.

 

[inferno]

What makes you say that? Minimum they're 58,000lbs of thrust each, and with the 787-8 weighing stone 118,000lbs it's close to the default thrust ratio of 1:1.
Of course that's the least power out could have it could be 78,000. I haven't checked which engines this aircraft has.
It would be more than capable of sustaining takeoff with only one engine, that's a basic requirement.

I used to fly 787, in the sim when you have an engine failure it climbs like a dog compared to a 777 and that’s with bringing the gear up. All speculation though.

 

[JonRGV250]

There’s a video on Reddit of some guy walking around who apparently survived the crash !

https://twitter.com/x/status/1933160181871099943

 

[Cleisthenes]

Absolutely incredible that someone survived, if it’s to be believed

 

[Harlequin]

Reading the PPRUNE thread, a lot of 787 pilots are saying the aircraft loves to use every inch of runway length even with full power and not just flex.

 

[SPArton]

Dual engine failure very unlikely.
Loss of electrical power, very unlikely

Wing flaps not in the right configuration - possible, but what are the chances of that with all the procedures and two pilots.
Once the aircraft is past V1, even with under deployed flaps, surely such loss in pitch is not possible without a drop in power.

 

[Harlequin]

Dual engine failure very unlikely.
Loss of electrical power, very unlikely

Wing flaps not in the right configuration - possible, but what are the chances of that with all the procedures and two pilots.
Once the aircraft is past V1, even with under deployed flaps, surely such loss in pitch is not possible without a drop in power.

Plane crash near Ahmedabad.. - PPRuNe Forums

Accidents and Close Calls - Plane crash near Ahmedabad.. - How plausible is dogey FMS settings such as excessive flex TO or incorrect M&B? Hard to tell but it doesn't sound like take off power is applied.

www.pprune.org

Wing flaps not correct - not possible, the aircraft software would keep LATS and LAPS down for control

 

[SPArton]

Plane crash near Ahmedabad.. - PPRuNe Forums

Accidents and Close Calls - Plane crash near Ahmedabad.. - How plausible is dogey FMS settings such as excessive flex TO or incorrect M&B? Hard to tell but it doesn't sound like take off power is applied.

www.pprune.org

Wing flaps not correct - not possible, the aircraft software would keep LATS and LAPS down for control

Thanks. What else could it be then?

 

[Freakbro]

Would a double engine bird strike be the most plausible explanation at this time?

 

[bingham67]

To be fair if plane going down like that you might aswell take a chance of jumping out, wonder where he fell on to?

 

[jaybee]

"Jumped from the plane" as in, opened the emergency door before impact and jumped down? :O
Or jumped down from the already crashed plane?

 

[BUDFORCE]

To be fair if plane going down like that you might aswell take a chance of jumping out, wonder where he fell on to?

It's crazy you could survive that, I mean how fast is that plane going at take off, like 100mph or something?

You try jumping out of a car doing that see how you get along, let alone the distance to the ground added in.