12 to 15 year old gangs

aVdub said:
The town near me has moved the scum of London to it and now the local divs are being lead by the violent London gangs that were once semi controlled by a large Met police force and are now doing whatever they want, due to local police being set up for the odd theft of chickens and an untaxed car.

This repeats itselfs across the home counties and can be seen on the many resident social media pages across these areas.

Whole communities are being ruined by the likes of khan, tories and liebour.
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I think that what happened here as dont think these new ones are local. Instead of tackling the problem before it too late i think they been moved on from another area.

PS: Please forgive my English and spelling etc. Yes its my first language but not every one is an expert and some things just come hard to others then most. Thanks.
 
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BUDFORCE said:
This gang of about 5 or so tried to mug my brother for his phone at a bus stop but he managed to get away, we only lived about 2 minutes walk fromt the bus stop so when he came back and told us we went out there, of the gang of 5 or so, the I guess, the hardest one or whatever saw us and started walking in front of the rest of the gang threatening whatever.

I dint say a single word, walked up to him, grabbed him by the neck and slammed his head into a brick wall, whilst I was pinning him against this wall I was kneeing and kicking the **** out of him. When I eventually let go, he dropped to the floor like a sack of **** and all his mates backed right off.

In hind sight in wa probably quite a stupid thing to do, but it worked.
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Well, maybe don't walk round with a big V on your forehead, or move to somewhere nicer.
No gangs here, any groups of kids try getting above themselves soon learn the error of their ways. The joys of village living.
 
skipper847 said:
They are minors so it be me what would get criminal record. They have more protection from police then law abiding citizens. That what CCTV is for in case anything happens to criminals while defending your self.
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And this is the crux. They're afforded more protection than their victims.
 
skipper847 said:
I think that what happened here as dont think these new ones are local. Instead of tackling the problem before it too late i think they been moved on from another area.
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More than likely and a scan of resident groups across the county will show this is not only a huge problem, but like down South, will be tied in with scum from certain cities.

This is also very much along the lines of what Rudy Giuliani did to New York.

Problem is now New York is back to being a **** hole and so are the once nice residential areas outside of NY.
 
aVdub said:
More than likely and a scan of resident groups across the county will show this is not only a huge problem, but like down South, will be tied in with scum from certain cities.

This is also very much along the lines of what Rudy Giuliani did to New York.

Problem is now New York is back to being a **** hole and so are the once nice residential areas outside of NY.
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I had a meeting with our former PCC once where I spoke to her about this. Basically the police kept bragging about how problem families were being evicted and moved on. I pointed out that it wasn't actually solving the problem as it all it did was move them elsewhere. She tried to say it broke up concentrations of them diluting the issue except as I pointed it out all it does is spread the issue. Not dilute it.
 
Dis86 said:
I had a meeting with our former PCC once where I spoke to her about this. Basically the police kept bragging about how problem families were being evicted and moved on. I pointed out that it wasn't actually solving the problem as it all it did was move them elsewhere. She tried to say it broke up concentrations of them diluting the issue except as I pointed it out all it does is spread the issue. Not dilute it.
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The issue they will all miss and that is probably intended is as you say, it just moves the problem to not only a new area, but many times, an area not policed or ready for the inner city criminal mentality.

Many areas of London that have had its **** removed from is now seeing £1m flats on the market in areas that recently would struggle to sell a packet of crisps. Meanwhile the once nice areas of the home counties and those around Manc and the like are slowly turning into areas where no-one wants to live and house prices are dropping faster than a stone.
 
Dis86 said:
I had a meeting with our former PCC once where I spoke to her about this. Basically the police kept bragging about how problem families were being evicted and moved on. I pointed out that it wasn't actually solving the problem as it all it did was move them elsewhere. She tried to say it broke up concentrations of them diluting the issue except as I pointed it out all it does is spread the issue. Not dilute it.
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They did this not far from where I am now, the council knocked down a bunch of old flats and maisonettes that were infested with the undesirables. Spread them all out across the town, but now they just tear up and down public footpaths and disused railway lines on obnoxiously loud unregistered dirt bikes to "visit" each other, and of course the police refuse to engage with them in case one of the idiots gets injured while trying to escape.
 
I watch this a lot on Police interceptors and it gets my back up.

I’m very fortunate in that I live in a tiny village out in the sticks, no trouble anywhere and my driveway is gated but that wasn’t always the case having been born and raised in SE London.

Having moved to York, I worked for a year in central Hull and would sometimes visit the office. I had several run ins with the locals, twice ending up with me giving them an attitude adjustment. My problem is I’m now 46 and fat, but I used to do Karate, Ju-Jitsu and kick boxing at a high level so am used to ‘handling myself’ but can’t do it anymore. I became cilvilised.

Now days it’s just not worth it. But if in doubt, smack the loudest one in the throat and try to eat your own ear after biting a bit of the one you’ve just smacked. Most will think you’re crazy and will back off.
 
Problem is they don't often face consequences and the police generally aren't interested until something serious happens, and if you do sort them out it will be you who gets into trouble.

As mentioned above they will play dirty and often too young to be aware of the consequences of their actions but most are weak cowardly scores.

I've had a few run ins over the years which fortunately didn't escalate - as it wouldn't have ended well for them but likely got myself and acquaintances into trouble.
 
kaiowas said:
Things are getting seriously out of hand out here. One of the neighbours chickens roams freely around here and is always in our garden trying to get the food that the wife gets for the birds.
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Our neighbour has a rogue peacock which roams about as it pleases, so much noise!
 
It's time for balaclavas to be banned where they're obviously being used to conceal identity, i.e. in groups of youths.

The law does need to change to be more on the side of any victims or the harassed. The seeming impunity they currently have needs to disappear somehow. There needs to be some sort of harassment law that they can get done for, before they've done anything worse.

Very fast e-bikes like the Surron should need registration (if they don't already), and otherwise be confiscated.

It is a sad state of affairs, but you should remember they are bored and without role models, and somewhat lost.

More definitely needs to be done but it's not an easy problem to solve. Avoid them if you can, try to be non-confrontational, and only use violence in self-defence if attacked. Easier said than done.
 
radderfire said:
Very fast e-bikes like the Surron should need registration (if they don't already), and otherwise be confiscated.
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There's no requirement for registration because they're already illegal to use on the road under any circumstances. Police in London have occasionally had crackdowns where they confiscate lorry loads of bikes and scooters but it obviously doesn't have any long term effect.

The coverage of the Cardiff riots really ****** me off with the lack of questioning over what the scrotes who died were doing on a Sur-ron. Typically it was simply referred to as an e-bike.

Edit: Just seen there are a couple of Sur-ron models which can be taxed and insured for road use. Think it's fair to assume the overwhelming majority are ridden illegally tho.
 
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Brun said:
There's no requirement for registration because they're already illegal to use on the road under any circumstances. Police in London have occasionally had crackdowns where they confiscate lorry loads of bikes and scooters but it obviously doesn't have any long term effect.
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I once watched a lone cop confiscate a massive Russian dudes electric scooter in London, near Blackfriars. The Russian dude didn’t like this, so decided the best course of action was to beat the hell out of the cop, ultimately breaking his hand. The cop was screaming for help and out of all the persons around, I went to his aid whilst everyone got their phones out. I ultimately subdued the Russian guy, in a Ju-Jitsu submission hold, essentially strangling him with his own arm which gave the cop time to hit his panic button and backup arrived within about 90 secs.

It went to court (3 years later) and I was summoned as a witness. I explained what happened, what I saw, what I did (They had lots of CCTV) and I was thanked and advised I would be told of the outcome in due course. I was….the Russian guy got off.
 
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My brothers shop and 3 other shops and 2 houses got broken into same night about 2 weeks back. They were caught red handed that night from CCTV footage and items in hand with witness from apartments above my brothers shop. My brother shop total damage was £3k and next door shop £5k. not to mention other places that night they broke into. these were 2 14 year olds and 2 days be for court day my brother got a phone call saying its been dropped. Probably same ones that causing all this too and a couple of house windows been smashed. all this started in last month where police have had loads of reports as said.
 
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