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**AMD 9950X3D Owners Club**

We have the same cpu, board and memory kit. I reckon with the right settings you can go above 8000. Start with 8200, can you enable that profile and share a ZT screenshot with me?

8100, slightly loosened timings compared to yours, and 1.435 VDDIO, error at the beginning of the 2nd pass, ive got no chance for 8200, obviously temps are not an issue, im guessing its just a weak IMC in my chip.

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8100, slightly loosened timings compared to yours, and 1.435 VDDIO, error at the beginning of the 2nd pass, ive got no chance for 8200, obviously temps are not an issue, im guessing its just a weak IMC in my chip.

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Try bumping VDIMM two notches and VDDP to 1.122v. You should also loosen RP to 42 and move RC to 100 for now.

EDIT - Oh, put DRAMDqDs to 40 as well @Jamin280672.
 
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Hi all.

I upgraded from a 5800x system to a new x870/9800x3d with a 9070Xt and a fresh install of windows and my GPU usage in games Is around the 60/80% mark. does anyone know how to fix this please/

What exactly is wrong there? And how's this related to owning a 9950x3d? :')
 
Hi team: I have spent a good afternoon tweaking and testing. I am embarrassed to say I have only just learnt you can save your bios settings on a usb... I have wasted hours of my life, each time, manually inputting the Bios date, for every deviation :mad:

I have attached a screenshot, which grants me access to Windows, but no benchmark stability. I have totally ignored resistance settings which have blocked me.

If I load up OCCT or AIDA, I get a crash within seconds: any ideas??

 
Hi team: I have spent a good afternoon tweaking and testing. I am embarrassed to say I have only just learnt you can save your bios settings on a usb... I have wasted hours of my life, each time, manually inputting the Bios date, for every deviation :mad:

I have attached a screenshot, which grants me access to Windows, but no benchmark stability. I have totally ignored resistance settings which have blocked me.

If I load up OCCT or AIDA, I get a crash within seconds: any ideas??

Fro 8000, default resistances should be fine, don't change them. For 8100/8200, maybe changed they can help.

My initial suggestions would be VDDIO 1.431v, VDDP 1.112, VDDQ 1.46v, resistances back to Auto.
 
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Hi team: I have spent a good afternoon tweaking and testing. I am embarrassed to say I have only just learnt you can save your bios settings on a usb... I have wasted hours of my life, each time, manually inputting the Bios date, for every deviation :mad:

I have attached a screenshot, which grants me access to Windows, but no benchmark stability. I have totally ignored resistance settings which have blocked me.

If I load up OCCT or AIDA, I get a crash within seconds: any ideas??


Be aware that saving bios settings via USB isn’t guaranteed to work with the next bios update. Always back up!
 
Anyone upgraded from 9800x3d to 9950x3d ? How much did you idle temps go up and also your temps in gaming.

I have a 9800x3d which idles between 34c and 38c depending on ambient. In gaming it stays in the mid 40's to high 50's depending on the game.
During shader compilation is can get close to 70c which is also the highest I saw it run in Ada Extreme burn test. No overclock, just PBO curve optimizer -15.

With the 9950x3d I guess I would be looking at a lot of extra heat. Not sure I have a use case for those extra cores as I spent my time browsing, you tube and gaming.
So probably a waste.

Using NH-D15 G2 and Flux Pro.
 
Anyone upgraded from 9800x3d to 9950x3d ? How much did you idle temps go up and also your temps in gaming.

I have a 9800x3d which idles between 34c and 38c depending on ambient. In gaming it stays in the mid 40's to high 50's depending on the game.
During shader compilation is can get close to 70c which is also the highest I saw it run in Ada Extreme burn test. No overclock, just PBO curve optimizer -15.

With the 9950x3d I guess I would be looking at a lot of extra heat. Not sure I have a use case for those extra cores as I spent my time browsing, you tube and gaming.
So probably a waste.

Using NH-D15 G2 and Flux Pro.
I did that switch, I can't remember specifics tbh but i don't recall too much change. Maybe another 3-5c or so. It really depends if you unlock the power limit on the 9950X3D. At stock temps won't change that much, but if you unlock it and allow the CPU to draw 250W+ then you will see a more noticeable increase. In short, if your cooling is strong don't worry about a temp increase. 360+ AIO recommended.
 
My 9950x3d in idles at the Tdie 41c with 20c ambient.
Gaming temps at Tdie are 57c in cod and pubg, with 20c ambient
CCD1 and CCD2 both about 10 to 12c cooler than Tdie..


In the current hot weather (24c) its 3c to 4c warmer as I'm to tight to turn the AC on :D
 
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Thanks for the support in recent days: I had to give up on 8,000Mhz. I only managed to get into Windows a handful of times, and only then, to snap a quick screenshot of Zen Timings before the system crashed. To get anywhere close I also had to run uncomfortably high voltages too (1.65+ on DRR). The VSoc will not handle anything higher than 1.18 either.

Ironically, MSi quietly removed the latest bios "A42" over the weekend, due to reported disruption to memory overclocks and instability! The same weekend that I was testing. You couldn't make it up :cry:

Anyhow, I am happily enjoying a stable system at 7,800Mhz (2:1 ratio), which will do me.
 
I decided to use curve optimizer per core instead of per ccd after I getting idle freezes instead of going straight to curve shaper to reduce complexity, using ycruncher (runtimePerCore = auto, "19-ZN2 ~ Kagari") via this script: https://github.com/sp00n/corecycler/releases

It seems like the results are going much better than I expected; two ccd1 cores were not happy at all with high undervolting quite early on, but most keep going. C-states enabled in the bios also seemed to have a very negative effect (idle power consumption is currently quite high tho
:cry:
). I may bring back my former system for more mundane tasks
 
I decided to use curve optimizer per core instead of per ccd after I getting idle freezes instead of going straight to curve shaper to reduce complexity, using ycruncher (runtimePerCore = auto, "19-ZN2 ~ Kagari") via this script: https://github.com/sp00n/corecycler/releases

It seems like the results are going much better than I expected; two ccd1 cores were not happy at all with high undervolting quite early on, but most keep going. C-states enabled in the bios also seemed to have a very negative effect (idle power consumption is currently quite high tho
:cry:
). I may bring back my former system for more mundane tasks
What is your idle power?
 
8200Mhz? Completed it mate. We've moved onto 8300Mhz. :p
8300C34 stable, low VDD 1.65v 1.45v VDDQ, 1.135v SOC (actual is 1.125v), 1.446v VDDIO, 1.128 VDDP.

New improved Karhu output from 8200C34 (369.42MBs) to 8300C34 (371.01Mbs).

I will improve on that output with subtle voltage tweaks and probably end up around or just under 372 MBs.
 
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I have an Apex on order and a free weekend, next week, so am hoping to bank some improved DDR stable frequencies
Best possible board out there for AM5 atm, although the Gene is right behind it. Generally speaking and without exotic cooling, 8300 is about as high as you can go reliably and even that is not guaranteed. 8300 took me days to stabilise so its not for the faint hearted. People with more exotic cooling on CPU/RAM etc can go up to 8400-8600. If you buy a decent board though its definitely worth putting the effort in IMO to ensure you hit at least 8200Mhz.
 
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