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At what point do you say GPU's are too expensive and refuse to buy?

Nasher said:
People will upgrade, but they will leave it much longer between upgrades. Which could end up with GPU makers not really making any more profit in the end. Nvidia and AMD's main income isn't from GPUs anymore.

Stats show PC gaming is rising and overtaking consoles. But the majority of people are playing old games so don't even need a current GPU.
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This is the beauty of pc gaming. The absolute monster archive of games easily accessible.
 
deviation said:
In response to the OP/thread title/question, it's one of those things, like with the cost of premium fuel, where I don't even bother to look at the price anymore per litre, I just pay it, I want a car that isn't built for economy, so I pay for the more expensive fuel it requires...

I want a GPU that is overpriced, but want the ability to play at X settings/resolution, I pay the money - at worst you just save for another month or two, and bite your tongue, I don't agree with the modern pricing versus features, but I'd hate myself more if I cheapen out, as 2 months later and every month after that, I'll be more annoyed that I didn't buy X instead of Y...
It is what it is, we know we're being scammed.
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I agree it is what it is. But these gpus now aren't just a little bit of a premium. They are double what they should be, and the rate of advancement has slowed massively.

The very top GPU you can buy today won't run the best VR headset you can buy at full resolution. That's crazy.
 
danlightbulb said:
I agree it is what it is. But these gpus now aren't just a little bit of a premium. They are double what they should be, and the rate of advancement has slowed massively.

The very top GPU you can buy today won't run the best VR headset you can buy at full resolution. That's crazy.
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True price wise, but then an ATI 9800XT couldn't max out Far Cry either?
 
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Is it the slow rate (tech limitations)increasing the prices to keep revenue up, or are they holding things back deliberately and increasing the costs to compensate? The effect is the same but the root cause would be interesting to know.
 
deviation said:
In response to the OP/thread title/question, it's one of those things, like with the cost of premium fuel, where I don't even bother to look at the price anymore per litre, I just pay it, I want a car that isn't built for economy, so I pay for the more expensive fuel it requires...
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I have a 5090, but there's no way I'd ever pay for premium fuel... Give me the cheap, slow car, reliable, gets me from a to b, etc. I'm just not a car guy, if electric was cheaper, I'd buy an EV in a heartbeat, idgaf :cry:
 
SuperElectric said:
I have a 5090, but there's no way I'd ever pay for premium fuel... Give me the cheap, slow car, reliable, gets me from a to b, etc. I'm just not a car guy, if electric was cheaper, I'd buy an EV in a heartbeat, idgaf :cry:
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FYI - electric for an EV on an electric car tariff is 7p/kwh, it can hardly get any cheaper. You are talking 1-3p/mile depending on the car.
 
SuperElectric said:
I have a 5090, but there's no way I'd ever pay for premium fuel... Give me the cheap, slow car, reliable, gets me from a to b, etc. I'm just not a car guy, if electric was cheaper, I'd buy an EV in a heartbeat, idgaf :cry:
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But you know it was just an example of things that we don't 'need' that we are all happy to pay an excessive amount for lol.
 
Quartz said:
Only if you can charge at home. If you cannot charge at home the economics can be very different. But that's for another thread.
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I took the above to be a reference to their own electricity.

If it wasn’t, you’d refer to public charging as the barrier (which cost is just one currently, chargers where you’d normally park your car for long periods of time are the other and is probably a larger barrier in reality).

Anyway back to topic, rabble rabble Nvidia are greedy, rabble rabble.
 
FlyingFish said:
Interesting that there's currently three 5090 GPU's for sale in MM here, at what you'd say is MSRP or below. And non have sold.
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If you can buy a new one for MSRP (which you can now), why would you buy a used one at MSRP?

Pricing is elastic and more new supply means lower used prices. It’s not normal for GPUs to be sold out for more than a couple of weeks after launch.

What’s happened since 2020 is not normal, it’s looking like the market is getting back to some normality, albeit at a higher price point.
 
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FlyingFish said:
Interesting that there's currently three 5090 GPU's for sale in MM here, at what you'd say is MSRP or below. And non have sold.
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Value is clearly dropping, I certainly wouldn't buy a used GPU close to its retail price. Unfortunately this will likely cause Nvidia to slow down some of its consumer chip production god forbid they have to admit they were over-priced and then discount them like other products.

Has anyone asked why they are trying to sell a used GPU after a few months?
 
BigBANGtheory said:
they are more likely to turn off supply at the higher end imho
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Unfortunately tried and tested tactics that history has proved.... Works. And it's us consumers that just suck it up. Nvidia and AMD obviously know this.

Until we learn :D

Since the 30 series I've been fortunate with buying and selling to get what I would call value for money for my usage, personally speaking. But it's currently taken the retail 4090 founders edition to stop me taking things any further. I'm getting my money's worth out of it :p

The performance increase that the 4090 gave, made it worth it for me, I'll wait till I get that feeling again and weigh it against whatever the next gen pricing or even possibly the gen after that..

Who knows, perhaps Nvidia know they have to pull something special out of the bag, due to maybe the current market becoming saturated. It's going to take something special to tempt me to spend money again.
 
danlightbulb said:
I agree it is what it is. But these gpus now aren't just a little bit of a premium. They are double what they should be,
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Based on what? Do you think GPUs are expensive because margins have gone up? If so, based on what evidence?
danlightbulb said:
and the rate of advancement has slowed massively.
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True, it’s simply physics, you can’t just keep shrinking the die and cramming more transistors in, there are diminishing returns.
danlightbulb said:
The very top GPU you can buy today won't run the best VR headset you can buy at full resolution. That's crazy.
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That someone can make a display that is difficult to drive doesn’t really mean anything.

GPUs have got more expensive because consumers have shown an insatiable appetite for more expensive GPUs.

You can still enjoy PC gaming on a good value GPU. You don’t need the best.
 
mid_gen said:
You can still enjoy PC gaming on a good value GPU. You don’t need the best.
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I agree with you but the product stack is all messed up. The halo product has twice as many cores for twice the price as the next product down. 5090 vs 5080. The halo product should have course be the fastest, but not by so much as this. It makes any other product other than the halo product not good value for money.
 
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