Microsoft Flight Simulator 2024 announced.

I've been trying this out recently as I have Game Pass and saw it was a smallish download size compared to 2020 - but what the hell did they do with the controls? I'm going to have to go through and reset basically everything to how it was in MSFS... Or I could just stay on 2020 which is fine.
 
I think the push to get it working on Xbox has sadly ruined it for traditional simmers. It's just full of broken features, janky streaming, and can't be used for any serious flight simulation. Probably fine for just flying a plane around whilst sat on the sofa but yeah, otherwise meh. MSFS2020 does everything I need, looks good enough and doesn't rely on good internet after the initial download.

It's a shame because there are some good ideas; career mode, the EFB, etc but its all just broken.
 
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Would definitely agree with the above. It's okay as a sofa flight game but as a PC flight simulator it doesn't feel right. 'Played' it on my brother's Xbox and was okay jumping in the A10 and flying around the Grand Canyon or London but you can't really use it for proper flight simming.

I've been tweaking and playing with settings are somewhat got a a smooth experience with TAA and FSR3 but it's no where near as refined as MSFS. Done a few free flights with the default INI A330 this last week and it's improving but there are still a lot of issues. The UI is janky and clearly designed with console in mind, cockpit textures are poor, terrain textures are even worse, camera system is terrible (hopefully Chase Plane fixes this), ATC as bad as every flight simulator, colours look washed out, control input is a step backwards, EFB is half baked. It shouldn't need so many extra addons like FSX days (free or otherwise) such as Chase Plane, FSLTL, REX Atmos, ATC etc to get a good PC flight sim experience.
 
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You’re going to need to upgrade to get the best experience, to me it looks gorgeous. The terrain and cockpit textures for the planes I have are very nice.

I fly the fenix planes, the ini a350 and plenty of others that port over from 2020. Currently on SU3 beta so can’t fly my pmdg 777s at the moment.

It does have faults though and is a bit of a wip. The details in the 3d scenery everywhere is amazing.
 
Thinking of replacing my Thrust master T16000m - it's throttle doesn't work and the rudder hall movement is going funny. I currently use a TWCS throttle to get around that. I might replace both with a VelocityOne Flight stick? Does anyone have experience with that joystick? Don't really want to pay more than £100.
 
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Thinking of replacing my Thrust master T16000m - it's throttle doesn't work and the rudder hall movement is going funny. I currently use a TWCS throttle to get around that. I might replace both with a VelocityOne Flight stick? Does anyone have experience with that joystick? Don't really want to pay more than £100.
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The rudder twist axis on the T16000 isn't a hall sensor but is instead just a standard pot. It is just the pitch and yaw axis that use hall sensors.

What do you mean by the throttle doesn't work? Do you mean the throttle slider at the rear of the joyustick base? I don't understand why you would want to use that if you have the TWCS throttle anyway.

If it is just the twist rudder that isn't working then you would be much better buying rudder pedals instead of a new stick. Peddles are much better than twist rudder controls or paddles.
 
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The rudder twist axis on the T16000 isn't a hall sensor but is instead just a standard pot. It is just the pitch and yaw axis that use hall sensors.

What do you mean by the throttle doesn't work? Do you mean the throttle slider at the rear of the joyustick base? I don't understand why you would want to use that if you have the TWCS throttle anyway.

If it is just the twist rudder that isn't working then you would be much better buying rudder pedals instead of a new stick. Peddles are much better than twist rudder controls or paddles.
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I know, that's probably why the pitch and yaw are the only things still working on it.

Yes, the throttle on the joystick base no longer works - not sure why. I bought the TWCS throttle because it broke on the joystick and it was pretty cheap at the time.:p

I don't really want to buy something else that takes up space and another USB port - that's what I'm trying to get away from. It's annoying enough with the joystick and throttle at the moment, hence wanting to replace both with a single piece of equipment. I'm not a serious simmer, and it's the same workspace that I use for WFH so I don't want crap everywhere.
 
I did finally take the plunge and get this installed again, able to use the FBW (A388 not playing well though) and the Fenix well along with a few backwards compatible sceneries and Airports.

Disappointed that PMDG not there but!!

Was a bit of a struggle but finally got my controls working well (TCA Airbus Quad and WinWing Sidestick)

Cant say I've noticed that much difference over 2020

Running on a 12700KF, 64gb DDR5 and an RTX 4070.
 
I've been meaning to give this another go, I played it quite a bit at release.

Mainly otherwise I'll forget everything, and have to learn it all again.
 
I jump in every few weeks to see if it’s improved. Still suffers from melted buildings in VR.
For civ work, I prefer Xplane12.
 
I still can't quite nail my settings. SU2 has improved things massively but it does feel like it's getting there. Using TAA/FSR3/Vsync via Nvidia control panel/Auto FPS. Just like with going from P3D to MSFS 2020 took me a while to get used to the new feel of the sim but for now I'm still mainly flying PMDG 737 and Fenix in 2020. Still can't get used to the utterly crap UI, looks like its been designed by a visually impaired 5 year old.
 
2020 still a much better platform. Came back to 2024 this morning to find some crash message just as off the west coast of Africa heading for Heathrow. Needless to say back to 2020 and XP12.
 
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