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At what point do you say GPU's are too expensive and refuse to buy?

deviation said:
Come on, have a maths fight, you know you both wanna :cry:
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Go on then.

4k
100/87=1.149

14.9% is not even 15%.

1440
100/91=1.098

10.98% is not even 15%.

1080
100/90=1.111

11.11% is not even 15%.

What's the average across those three? Not even 15%. But, let's be honest, who's going to play at 1080 on a 7900 XTX?

4k
100/87=1.149

1440
100/91=1.098

What's the average across those two? Not even 15%.

Whatever way you breakdown the numbers the end result is not even 15%. Forever. :D

I'm completely messing around and having a little laugh before anyone gets upset! You could make "not even 15%" my catchphrase.
 
aaronyuri said:
Go on then.

4k
100/87=1.149

14.9% is not even 15%.

1440
100/91=1.098

10.98% is not even 15%.

1080
100/90=1.111

11.11% is not even 15%.

What's the average across those three? Not even 15%. But, let's be honest, who's going to play at 1080 on a 7900 XTX?

4k
100/87=1.149

1440
100/91=1.098

What's the average across those two? Not even 15%.

Whatever way you breakdown the numbers the end result is not even 15%. Forever. :D

I'm completely messing around and having a little laugh before anyone gets upset! You could make "not even 15%" my catchphrase.
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Haha, amazing :) We could call you Aaron's 15%, it'd be like a bakers dozen, i.e. your own 15 :D:cry:
 
BigBANGtheory said:
you're having a laugh? RTX 3090 remains one of the worst value GPUs in the history of GPUs. Literally anything is better unless you were using it to dodge the workstation Quadro models
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This!

I have had a 3080, 3070, 3080Ti, 4070 Ti and now a 5070 Ti. Still not spent the money of a 3090 on all of those cards :D
 
humbug said:
I'm triggered by that :eek::o :D

AIO's do have air in them, a small amount but they are never completely full, with that in mind look at where the highest point of that cooling setup is, its the top of the rad, where the pump feeds in and out of the rad, that's where the air is........

The best way is to have the rad is at the top.
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I know mate, seen the GN video on this a while back. I had the tubes at the bottom until recently so it hasnt been that way for long.

Thing is I've been planning on a new one as this H100i around 7 years old now :eek: so looking at a 280mm or 360mm, possibly one of the Arctic Liquid Freezer 3 AIO's.

Funny though, I turned my old AM4 build into a non dGPU build with a Ryzen 2200G which is using an ancient Corsair H75 AIO and that thing is still working even though its been boxed for years lol

Problem is, the tubes are never really long enough on an AIO, as before with the smaller 3060 Ti there was space for the tubes to pass between the end of the card and the radiator, it'll be a squeeze and the end of the 9070 will be pushing on the tubes and I kinda dont want it doing that.

Also, in my own testing the CPU is always cooler with the AIO in the front of the case :)

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Been looking at cases too but I deffo need to replace this AIO :(

Oh and apologies for triggering you :p:cry:
 
aaronyuri said:
Go on then.

4k
100/87=1.149

14.9% is not even 15%.

1440
100/91=1.098

10.98% is not even 15%.

1080
100/90=1.111

11.11% is not even 15%.

What's the average across those three? Not even 15%. But, let's be honest, who's going to play at 1080 on a 7900 XTX?

4k
100/87=1.149

1440
100/91=1.098

What's the average across those two? Not even 15%.

Whatever way you breakdown the numbers the end result is not even 15%. Forever. :D

I'm completely messing around and having a little laugh before anyone gets upset! You could make "not even 15%" my catchphrase.
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Like a lot of people, and i'm not taking the pee here, like i said a lot of people make this mistake in maths, unfortunately, he's looking at 87% vs 100% and coming up with 13%, because +13 percentage points to get to 100, of course that's not how it works, you obviously know this but for the many that don't the performance gain needed to get to 100 is calculated from from the performance the card in question has, if you actually add 13% to 100 what you get is 98.3, doesn't quite reach, the easy way to do this is divide the 87 by the 100 = 1.149, the number past the 1. is the true difference between 87 and 100 in percentage terms, this being 14.9%.
I don't think he thinks 14.9% isn't quite 15%, which is hilarious and i know you're joking, i just think he's making the obvious mistake, i see a lot of people do it... :)
 
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At what point do you say GPU's are too expensive and refuse to buy?​


It was difficult to refuse to buy when I needed a card for a new build. My last card before my 5090 was a FE 3090ti.

Having said that the Asus Astral 5090 I bought was actually more expensive than my Titan V which I bought new when it came out.

This is insane that a mainstream card like the 5090 (which is not even the full fat Die) can cost more than something like a Titan V.

We really need to see new cards that can run mGPU, this would put pressure on pricing for top tier cards as two mid range cards running SLI or Crossfire could easily out perform the top tier cards.

Unfortunately we are not going to see this as it does not suit Nvidia's or AMD's marketing where they can maximise profits selling huge single cards for large margins. They nor the Game Devs are going to spend any money on R&D to get mGPU working (even though it would work a lot better now than in the past due to Tech advances) as they like things just the way they are where profits come first.
 
Kaapstad said:
We really need to see new cards that can run mGPU, this would put pressure on pricing for top tier cards as two mid range cards running SLI or Crossfire could easily out perform the top tier cards.

Unfortunately we are not going to see this as it does not suit Nvidia's or AMD's marketing where they can maximise profits selling huge single cards for large margins. They nor the Game Devs are going to spend any money on R&D to get mGPU working (even though it would work a lot better now than in the past due to Tech advances) as they like things just the way they are where profits come first.
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The cards exist right now.

Game devs who want to burn budget enabling it don't exist.
 
Sadly, mGPU setups are dead on the desktop. It was previously a great way to "upgrade" by buying a second, used card for cheap as chips and nearly doubling performance. I last did this with the 6870. Shame those times are gone.

Edit: I'm full of ****. I did it with the R9 Fury, too.
 
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aaronyuri said:
Sadly, mGPU setups are dead on the desktop. It was previously a great way to "upgrade" by buying a second, used card for cheap as chips and nearly doubling performance. I last did this with the 6870. Shame those times are gone.

Edit: I'm full of ****. I did it with the R9 Fury, too.
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6870 xfire were seriously good bang for buck
 
I used to think if there was competition and AMD released a competing product we would see prices kept down to attract sales because of competition, but I am starting to think we are in oligopoly with collusion and in future its probably just going to become a cartel. MSRP or RRP are practically theoretical terms now.

Even if AMD released competing products, I doubt the prices would drop much, unless sales take a nose dive nobody is going to shift prices and even then its best to use scarce silicon space to milk the high profit AI cow than the low profit gaming market. I still would prefer AMD to compete than not, as it does prevent NVidia from charging ridiculous prices, like £1500+ for a future 6080 but the price trajectory is up high. We are never going back to the day where you could buy a top line performance for <£1000, remember when 1080ti where ~£700.

social media, hype, expansion of gaming and access to cheap credit has created a situation where "they will pay anything" and the big companies know this and it will continue in this trajectory.
 
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If a GPU costs more than £700. Still have a 2080 Ti with 19 GB GPU memory. Some newer games require lower resolutions for a stable framerate but I have yet to feel the need to upgrade
 
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