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Love honey was the one for me
I ordered the Polestar from them - it was not what I was expecting…
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Nissan leaf, whos got one and whats your thoughts on it??
I thinking between this and a peugot 208 EV next year....
I know they are two quite different cars, but im thinking the bigger leaf might be better with having two dogs to take out and about.
I thinking between this and a peugot 208 EV next year....
I know they are two quite different cars, but im thinking the bigger leaf might be better with having two dogs to take out and about.
How old are you talking? Also what range do you need? The Leaf is a much bigger car than the 208, and in Tekna specification is very well equipped, negative being you have a dead DC charging standard by default, but not as issue if all your are doing is AC charging for 99.9% of your requirements.
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2020, maybe 21 model....... what you mean by dead DC charging?
Leaf has CHAdeMO, so you need an expensive converted to use CCs.
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so DC meaning from solar?? but you can still charge at the house from AC?
Public chargers.
Think of it like all cars now use usb C and leaf are still on usb A. You'll struggle to find places that still have a DC connection that'll fit.
No your DC from your solar is converted to AC by your inverter. I am talking about rapid/ultra fast charging on public chargers. Not sure if you'd want to charge from solar unless you are unable to export though.
I am in significant doubt of this article being anywhere near accurate.
www.bbc.co.uk
"The average price of a new EV in the UK is nearly double the cost of a typical petrol car at £22,000."
To bring the cost of the average petrol car to £22k new they must be selling so many cars at £10k to offset the fact most cost over £25k now. Or it is just wrong.
Electric cars will be cheaper to buy, pledges Heidi Alexander
The Transport Secretary says she will announce measures to cut the cost of buying an electric car.
www.bbc.co.uk
"The average price of a new EV in the UK is nearly double the cost of a typical petrol car at £22,000."
To bring the cost of the average petrol car to £22k new they must be selling so many cars at £10k to offset the fact most cost over £25k now. Or it is just wrong.
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i do have an export limit of 4.6kw....so i do have headroom to charge from solar on a granny plug, but to be honest i only do around 50/60 miles a week in the car. so would only really charge maybe once a week at max.
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but as a car itself whats it like? i got a fair few months before deciding yet..... as it will be a 50th birthday car, so want something thats decent and will last a fair few years
That would be easy enough with a Leaf then.
Some decent bargains about under £7k for a 69-plate Tekna 40kWh.
In the Tekna spec they are really nice cars, large inside and comfortable.
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Electric cars have two methods of charging.
AC at 7-11kw with the latter needing 3 phase. This is done via a ‘type 2’ plug (except gen 1 leafs and other first gen cars)
DC at 50-350kw - these are public chargers that you’ll find at a motorway service station and more increasingly at retail parts etc. there are two standards, CCS and Chademo. In the EU all new cars must have CCS which makes Chademo a dead standard. There are lots of Chademo chargers out there but some networks like Ionity and Tesla never installed them, no one is really installing them in any volume anymore.
The leaf came out before this rule took effect so all leafs had chademo. This means the charging network isn’t getting better ant the same pace for this car despite thousands of chargers going in every year that CCS cars benefit from.
You can get a chademo to CCS adaptor but it’s expensive (£900 I think).
Other than that the 40kwh leaf is an alright car with a bad reputation*. If you are happy with the range and styling and go in knowing it’s rapid charging Achilles heal, it makes a decent or dare I say it ‘perfect’ second car for some people.
*24kwh and 30kwh leafs suffer from horrible battery degradation. On the flip side, they are very cheap on the used market as a result.
If you like the 208, look at the Corsa, C4 etc. different styling but fundamentally the same underneath.
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that one in sterling is a bit far for me...im in south wales lol
There are loads around, that was just one example.
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I am in significant doubt of this article being anywhere near accurate.
Electric cars will be cheaper to buy, pledges Heidi Alexander
The Transport Secretary says she will announce measures to cut the cost of buying an electric car.
"The average price of a new EV in the UK is nearly double the cost of a typical petrol car at £22,000."
To bring the cost of the average petrol car to £22k new they must be selling so many cars at £10k to offset the fact most cost over £25k now. Or it is just wrong.
I think a lot of EV advocates like to extol that there is price paratey between Petrol and Electric cars but i think the compare low end trims on electric cars with high end trims on petrol cars and call that price equal when it really isnt. Especially when you factor in battery options.
The government 'hope' to make electric cars cheaper is all ot is, unless they reopen the grants system or drop/reduce VAT on electric vehicles then id imagine they will offer some scheme on motability or some other limited access grant for them to say 'look we helped reduce electric car prices (to a tiny amount of perspective buyers).
Fairly typical for this government, a lot of promises and noise, barely any substance.
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I’m not really sure the government need to do anything to make EVs cheaper to buy. The new market is dominated by fleet purchases and there are already massive tax incentives there which also creates depreciation issues.
Private purchases are not that much more than ICE but have lower running costs.
Used EVs are cheaper than used ICE equivalents in some cases.
If they really want this to take off, they need to sort out cheap charging for people who don’t have a driveway. That that will be via a variety of solutions but it also needs to slapping local authorities with a big stick on things like cable gullies.
Private purchases are not that much more than ICE but have lower running costs.
Used EVs are cheaper than used ICE equivalents in some cases.
If they really want this to take off, they need to sort out cheap charging for people who don’t have a driveway. That that will be via a variety of solutions but it also needs to slapping local authorities with a big stick on things like cable gullies.