The joy of being a landlord
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A right to family life could well be argued for that.
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So do you think that if the social housing you advocate will be in 'a postcode they like', or do you think the whole 'I can't afford to buy' argument should include the phrase 'where I want'?
I left home at 16, I had a one room bedsit. Shared bathroom etc., but it was all I could afford , and it got me away from a very dysfunctional home.
I bought a house 40 years ago when I was 21 using an endowment policy. I was freelance at the time, but it was still a struggle to pay the mortgage and policy premium. Then 4 years down the line Gordo Brown introduced IR35 and killed the creative freelance industry. I lost the house (wouldn't happen, now the rules have been tightened up). I rented for the next 15 odd years, which allowed me to go where the work was (including Belgium and Germany).
I now have a lovely home, but it's been a struggle to get here.
I think another issue here is that certain generation have been lead to believe that everything will fall into their laps without having to struggle to get what they want.
My step daughter rented 'close to work' near to London, in a flat worth over £1.5M on the open market, as this fitted in with want she wanted at the time. When it came to buy they bought a massively inflated price house in Croydon. Then they had children and Croydon became far less attractive and other things come into play.
Oh, and 'moving up north' is exactly what any non-C level person on £1M+ p/a should do. There's plenty of work, housing is affordable, we even have Overclockers here.
So why do you think that's 'unreasonable'?
I left home at 16, I had a one room bedsit. Shared bathroom etc., but it was all I could afford , and it got me away from a very dysfunctional home.
I bought a house 40 years ago when I was 21 using an endowment policy. I was freelance at the time, but it was still a struggle to pay the mortgage and policy premium. Then 4 years down the line Gordo Brown introduced IR35 and killed the creative freelance industry. I lost the house (wouldn't happen, now the rules have been tightened up). I rented for the next 15 odd years, which allowed me to go where the work was (including Belgium and Germany).
I now have a lovely home, but it's been a struggle to get here.
I think another issue here is that certain generation have been lead to believe that everything will fall into their laps without having to struggle to get what they want.
My step daughter rented 'close to work' near to London, in a flat worth over £1.5M on the open market, as this fitted in with want she wanted at the time. When it came to buy they bought a massively inflated price house in Croydon. Then they had children and Croydon became far less attractive and other things come into play.
Oh, and 'moving up north' is exactly what any non-C level person on £1M+ p/a should do. There's plenty of work, housing is affordable, we even have Overclockers here.
So why do you think that's 'unreasonable'?
I was about to post very similar.
All this “I should have the right” nonsense is why some feel so entitled these days and can’t be arsed working hard or barely making an effort to get what they feel they’re entitled to.
Lol it definitely can't. There's no right to have the same standard of living as your family or siblings. Never mind same location.
If some nasty criminal can use this to stay in the country normal people ought to be able to justify staying where they grew up.
Are we going to have the same argument again of "I worked hard to buy a house therefore my anecdotal personal experiences invalidate all the objective studies that show its much harder to buy a house these days than it was 30 years ago".
That's a false equivalence and its a straw man argument.
People have no right to be able to afford to live where they grew up.
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It's like lemmings everyone trying to be in the same place. UK is massive. Lots of affordable places with a good quality of life. Good transport links, good roads.
No point being near work we'll all be replaced with AI soon enough. Might as be well somewhere nice.
No point being near work we'll all be replaced with AI soon enough. Might as be well somewhere nice.
Maybe there is a rota of boomers waiting to be called up to these discussions and say how tough they had it? Remember, young people just need to work harder/give up avocado toast/move hundreds of miles away from family, friends and career opportunities.
You say that like it a good thing or should be an accepted thing - nothing good comes of it in the long run.
But where does it stop? some people don't have the luxury of constantly moving around the country as demanded by the way the housing market has gone.
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Reports of Norman Tebbit's death seem to have been exaggerated. How are people supposed to fund this move unless there is a decent job for them to go to? How many employers in these "affordable" parts of the UK will offer jobs to people living (maybe) hundreds of miles to the south?
I'm not saying that people shouldn't move for work opportunities, but even if someone is currently struggling in London or Bristol with most of their salary going on rent, they aren't exactly in a strong position to quit their job and move up north in the hope of finding well paid work and cheap housing.
Let's stick to dealing with current reality, where normal people need an income to live.
That's the way it's always been. You've just been unaware of it till now. People have moved country for generations.
It's everyone in these other places unemployed or something.
Eh?
Lay off the crack buddy.
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" Remember, young people just need to work harder/give up avocado toast/move hundreds of miles away from family, friends and career opportunities"
In my day:
"you need to work hard at school/have a good work ethic/give up nights out cinema etc/save every penny you can/go to where the work is" doesn't appear to be much different, except we didn't sneer at it, we did it.
In my day:
"you need to work hard at school/have a good work ethic/give up nights out cinema etc/save every penny you can/go to where the work is" doesn't appear to be much different, except we didn't sneer at it, we did it.