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**AMD 9950X3D Owners Club**

Did an pointless from 7950x3D to 9950x3d because I can.....lol. But I'm getting lower scores with 3D Mark with the new CPU.

Anyone else had this ?
 
Whats the performance like when you disable ht in game like battlefield etc, wondering if it worth me swapping to 9950x3d, i run 14900ks without ht or ecores.

Zia
 
Capitano said:
so the question is, is it worth it over the 9800x3d for gaming?
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For gaming? No. As much as I love my 9950X3D, which with one CCD disabled is slightly faster than my old (golden) 9800X3D, for gaming the 9800X3D is the overall better gaming CPU unless you disable CCD1 on the 9950X3D. Until games start regularly requiring more than 8 cores, the single CCD part is always going to win out overall. With all that said, improvements have been made in software that the dual CCD part is no longer noticeably slower than the single CCD part in games. We're talking a few percent at best, and there will be still be a few games where the dual CCD part is faster. So, if you have use for more than 8 cores for other workloads, go with the higher core part. If you only care about gaming, then the 8 core part is the better choice as things stand. Citation - Having owned and used both since they were released.
 
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Best possible board out there for AM5 atm, although the Gene is right behind it. Generally speaking and without exotic cooling, 8300 is about as high as you can go reliably and even that is not guaranteed. 8300 took me days to stabilise so its not for the faint hearted. People with more exotic cooling on CPU/RAM etc can go up to 8400-8600. If you buy a decent board though its definitely worth putting the effort in IMO to ensure you hit at least 8200Mhz.
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As an update, I have been enjoying the options on my new Apex, but the CPU would still not boot at 8,000. I was also struggling to find stability at 7,800.

I have just procured a new 9950X3D from a competitor: booted and ran Karhu for 2-3hrs at 8,000 while on a business call. A quick Karhu for 10mins on 8,200 (1 error popped up) and a Windows boot (only) at 8,400.

So, I have some work to do on these timings/voltages (the original CPU is being RMA'd!).
 
sativa said:
As an update, I have been enjoying the options on my new Apex, but the CPU would still not boot at 8,000. I was also struggling to find stability at 7,800.

I have just procured a new 9950X3D from a competitor: booted and ran Karhu for 2-3hrs at 8,000 while on a business call. A quick Karhu for 10mins on 8,200 (1 error popped up) and a Windows boot (only) at 8,400.

So, I have some work to do on these timings/voltages (the original CPU is being RMA'd!).
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just out of interest did AMD accept the RMA based on the fact that karhu was giving errors @7800mts or was there some other fault? my understanding was that ryzen 9000 series is rated for 5600mt/s and that's what AMD guarantees
 
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@LtMatt a newbie question: I see you are running 8000-rated sticks at 8200 and recently you posted evidence of reaching 8300 (well done!).

So, not only are you overclocking the CPU, but also the ram above its rating: if I want to try 8200, is it easier to upgrade my current 800 sticks to 8200 (or 8400) rated versions to remove one less obstacle?
 
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@LtMatt a newbie question: I see you are running 8000-rated sticks at 8200 and recently you posted evidence of reaching 8300 (well done!).

So, not only are you overclocking the CPU, but also the ram above its rating: if I want to try 8200, is it easier to upgrade my current 800 sticks to 8200 (or 8400) rated versions to remove one less obstacle?
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You should be able to overclock the memory to 8200. I think there is one kit that can’t do it for some reason and that’s the Gskill 6000c26 kit which doesn’t like above 8000.
 
LtMatt said:
You should be able to overclock the memory to 8200. I think there is one kit that can’t do it for some reason and that’s the Gskill 6000c26 kit which doesn’t like above 8000.
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It begs the question, what is the point of "memory speed ratings" if you can surpass them?! I suppose they provide an indication of positive binning.

On a side note, loving the Apex, found a very tight 8000 and verifying with Karhu tonight (2-3hrs clean earlier today). Next step, 8200.
 
sativa said:
It begs the question, what is the point of "memory speed ratings" if you can surpass them?! I suppose they provide an indication of positive binning.

On a side note, loving the Apex, found a very tight 8000 and verifying with Karhu tonight (2-3hrs clean earlier today). Next step, 8200.
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They do hold some value, as in the example I showed above. A supposed special binned kit for low latency, doesn't like high frequency. However, I do get and agree with your point for the most part.
 
Thanks: to be fair, if you're not an overclocker, DDR ratings do provide a 'plug and play' option for specific speeds/timings (e.g. EXPO/XMP), which provides comfort (and save hours of tuning!).
 
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